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post #31 of 1018
How does the LZ800 handle motion, especially sports?
post #32 of 1018
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Originally Posted by dajet00 View Post

How does the LZ800 handle motion, especially sports?

I think everyone who has seen it up close and personal have stated that it handles motion very well.
post #33 of 1018
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Originally Posted by dajet00 View Post

How does the LZ800 handle motion, especially sports?

Handles motion the best I've seen from any LCD to date. Watching the Celtics & Pistons & I was truly amazed just how well it performed. It's a winner, no doubt!
post #34 of 1018
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

BB in my area(MA) do not carry the LZ800's and they have no record of when/if they will ever get them.

Joe: I'm in Gloucester, MA. & I find it kind of strange that BB carries the 37" LZ800 & they only carry the 720P 32". Makes no sense! I went to Tweeter for the look-see & then bought it online from Buydig.com Also bought a 3 year Mack Camera warranty for $99.00

I don't think BB really wants to sell the Panny LCD line. My local BB (Peabody, MA.) had inventory but not one floor model!
post #35 of 1018
[quote=dmikester1;13961448]I was also going to buy the $99 Mack 3 yr extended warranty. What are your guy's thoughts on that? Worth it or no?
Thanks
Mike[/QUOTE

It's worth it! I wave always used Mack Camera & the one time I needed help on an older 22" Samsung, they paid for a $750.00 repair w/o a hassle. I can't believe I paid $1800.00 for a 22" LCD back in the day! They are an excellent company, so yes it is worth IMHO.
post #36 of 1018
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BOSTON-HD View Post

Joe: I'm in Gloucester, MA. & I find it kind of strange that BB carries the 37" LZ800 & they only carry the 720P 32". Makes no sense! I went to Tweeter for the look-see & then bought it online from Buydig.com Also bought a 3 year Mack Camera warranty for $99.00

I don't think BB really wants to sell the Panny LCD line. My local BB (Peabody, MA.) had inventory but not one floor model!

I agree that BB really doesn't want to sell these Panny LCD's. Its a shame too, this set is atop or very near to top line sets in this size class. I haven't even seen the LZ800's on BB website??

BTW, Boston-HD, do you have Comcast cable? If so, how does their HD feed look on this set?
post #37 of 1018
Thread Starter 
Anyone have pics forthcoming??
post #38 of 1018
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

BB in my area(MA) do not carry the LZ800's and they have no record of when/if they will ever get them.

I don't think our local one had them either. This was the same for the XBR6 which was the other TV I considered.

The TV is really nice. Been watching the Stanley Cup, French Open, and reruns of Conan O'Brien. I felt that it handled the pace of the sports very well. I tried focusing on the black details of the hockey game since the Penguins wear black home jerseys. Nothing noticeable with any motion blur or the like. I'm actually satisfied with the "standard" picture quality so I probably won't revisit that unless I feel like exploring more of the TV.

I bought a PS3 on Wednesday, but I'm still waiting on my HDMI cable and copies of Casino Royale and 300 to come from Amazon. I'll update you guys with that later.

Side bar: Seems like I no longer get ESPN HD OTA. Found it odd that I got it the first time, but oh well. Also, what's the proper forum on AVS to ask about a surge suppressor? I'm currently looking at this one.
post #39 of 1018
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

Anyone have pics forthcoming??

What pictures would you like? See page 1 for some that I took.
post #40 of 1018
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 0V3CHKiN View Post

What pictures would you like? See page 1 for some that I took.

I saw the pictures from page 1, very nice, much appreciated. Some pics of 300 and Casino Royale would be nice when you do receive them. 300 is a very good movie to see black level performance.
post #41 of 1018
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

I agree that BB really doesn't want to sell these Panny LCD's. Its a shame too, this set is atop or very near to top line sets in this size class. I haven't even seen the LZ800's on BB website??

BTW, Boston-HD, do you have Comcast cable? If so, how does their HD feed look on this set?

JoeBloggz: I have been a customer of DirecTV for over 13 years now & you couldn't pry me away from this company for anything! I simply love them! Great customer service & you can "haggle" for a better deal, trust me!

Since D*TV has gone to MPEG-4, they really have decent picture quality all-in-all & they have countless HD channels (120+) On top of that, I can watch my beloved KC Chiefs ( have pity in me!) thru the Sunday Ticket.

In the next few days, I post my video settings thru Avia software. It won't be a true calibration from a pro, but I'll get close!

Alex
post #42 of 1018
Can any of the owners comment on the audio quality of the 32LZ800? Do you think it is substantially better than most other LCDs of this size?
post #43 of 1018
The audio on the 37 sounds fine to me. I can't imagine it being much different than the 32".

Now for some photos of Casino Royale on Blu-Ray. (keep in mind, I tried to keep the camera steady.):

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5128/img0221mt8.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8674/img0222em6.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8394/img0227zl0.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9744/img0223xl8.jpg

I watched the DVD before the Blu-Ray version. There was definitely a lot more detail in the Blu-Ray!

I didn't get through 300 yet, but here's what I got from that:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2425/img0236id0.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4007/img0241vr3.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5199/img0243za9.jpg

Blacks looked pretty good to me.
post #44 of 1018
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 0V3CHKiN View Post

The audio on the 37 sounds fine to me. I can't imagine it being much different than the 32".

Now for some photos of Casino Royale on Blu-Ray. (keep in mind, I tried to keep the camera steady.):

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5128/img0221mt8.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8674/img0222em6.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8394/img0227zl0.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9744/img0223xl8.jpg

I watched the DVD before the Blu-Ray version. There was definitely a lot more detail in the Blu-Ray!

I didn't get through 300 yet, but here's what I got from that:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2425/img0236id0.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4007/img0241vr3.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5199/img0243za9.jpg

Blacks looked pretty good to me.

OV3, appreciate the pics. The player is PS3, correct? Also have you calibrated the set yet or simply using standard picture setting?
Blacks look solid,
post #45 of 1018
Qustion!! I just got my TV, I turned it on, connected my pc.
For some reason top portion of LZ800 is not as bright as other part of the TV.

For example, if I open an Internet Explorer, I can clearly see that top part (where menu and address bar is) is darker than bottom portion of the screen. What Even icons in same color, look different. Does anyone have this problem???

I am trying to figure out whether TV was damaged during shipping or not. When I opened the box, white forms holders weren't hold top cornors of my TV...
post #46 of 1018
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Originally Posted by shinji23 View Post

For example, if I open an Internet Explorer, I can clearly see that top part (where menu and address bar is) is darker than bottom portion of the screen. What Even icons in same color, look different. Does anyone have this problem???

While it probably doesn't matter either way, is their a definite line between the darkness and bright part or does it slowing fade between the two?
Does it just look to be an uneven backlight or are the colors significantly different?
post #47 of 1018
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

OV3, appreciate the pics. The player is PS3, correct? Also have you calibrated the set yet or simply using standard picture setting?
Blacks look solid,

Yes to PS3. Picture is on "standard" setting. No tweaking done to it.

I purchased MI:3 from Costco today. I'll be watching that tomorrow and post pics of that if anyone wants to see more. I'll do some shots of the Red Wings/Penguins game tomorrow night too.
post #48 of 1018
post #49 of 1018
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Originally Posted by 0V3CHKiN View Post

The audio on the 37 sounds fine to me. I can't imagine it being much different than the 32".

Now for some photos of Casino Royale on Blu-Ray. (keep in mind, I tried to keep the camera steady.):

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5128/img0221mt8.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8674/img0222em6.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8394/img0227zl0.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9744/img0223xl8.jpg

Blacks looked pretty good to me.

Cool Casino Royal pics. Maybe some of it in daylight and some HD channels if you can.


Thanks.
post #50 of 1018
Thread Starter 

wow. that dark area on top is very prominent. Not sure whats up here?
post #51 of 1018
Can anyone confirm that the LZ800 Motion Picture Pro is totally different than Sony and Samsungs 120HZ processing. I really like the new Samsungs, but the motion looks unreal, like I'm watching a soap opera. I heard that Panasonic implemented a similar feature but they did a much better job.
post #52 of 1018
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Originally Posted by Skatezeppelin View Post

Can anyone confirm that the LZ800 Motion Picture Pro is totally different than Sony and Samsungs 120HZ processing. I really like the new Samsungs, but the motion looks unreal, like I'm watching a soap opera. I heard that Panasonic implemented a similar feature but they did a much better job.

Everyone has a different 120Hz technology. Panasonic's doesn't make it look unreal and overly smooth.
post #53 of 1018
As I posted elsewhere, I noticed that my 32LZ800 screen flickers almost imperceptibly (but I notice it) if I turn on "Motion Focus" when using it as a PC monitor (displaying windows, text, etc). When watching movies on it (via the PC), it is less noticeable.

Can someone try this and let me know if they see it, too?

- Tim
post #54 of 1018
I ordered the 32" LZ800 this morning.
post #55 of 1018
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Originally Posted by tbessie View Post

As I posted elsewhere, I noticed that my 32LZ800 screen flickers almost imperceptibly (but I notice it) if I turn on "Motion Focus" when using it as a PC monitor (displaying windows, text, etc). When watching movies on it (via the PC), it is less noticeable.

Sounds like it is inserting a 'black' (usually just dimmer not fully black) frame in between each frame to reduce the "sample and hold" effect of the LCD screen.
post #56 of 1018
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

wow. that dark area on top is very prominent. Not sure whats up here?


Looks like 1 or 2 of the CCFLs is out.
post #57 of 1018
I hope nobody minds, but I have a few really stupid questions....

I should preface this with two facts:


1. I just finished unboxing a brand new 37LZ800, and just hooked up my PC, PS3, Cable Box, and Wii to it. Sometime tomorrow I'm gonna use the VGA port to hook up my Dreamcast! Got it from a local retailer (not Tweeter) at a very, very sweet price. It was funny...they brought it out on a car right next to a Sony (I think it was a 40W4100), and I swear the box for the Sony was so thin you'd have to stack 4 of them next to each other to equal the thickness of the Panny box!

2. This is actually my very first HDTV. Before this I was using my trusty HP L2335 computer monitor, which was really really nice for its time back in the day.


Now, aside from the fact that I'm frigging in love with this TV so far, and I really need to run my DVE Bluray disc and configure it, when playing around I came across a few things I couldn't figure out:


1. According to the specs, this TV does have a 3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter. Now in the Advanced Picture setting, the 3D Y/C filter option is set to Off and greyed out so I can't change it. Any reason why, and is it something I should worry about?

2. Also, Color Matrix and MPEG NR are greyed out, with Color Matrix set to HD and MPEG NR set to off. Wondering the same as above, any reason why they're greyed out and is it something to worry about?

3. I haven't pinned it down, but when running my PS3 (via HDMI) and playing a Bluray movie, sometimes Motion Focus was greyed out and inaccesible, sometimes it was available and I could activate it. Anybody already figure out the logic to it?


I'll try to post more when I run through the DVE calibration and play around with it more. Trying to find a way to test if it gets 1:1 mapping when hooked up to PC via DVD->HDMI, and so far I found a test image that seems to say it does when set to HD Size 2. Text also looks nice and crisp, not overly washed out or hard to read, and right now my head is somewhere between 2 and 3 feet away from the screen.

Also, once I get this configured I'll be more than happy to run any tests and post pics if you guys are looking for anything. Got a crapload of Blurays and a bunch of PS3 movies to run through now. And thanks to all of your here and in the other LZ800 who did the comparisons between this set and the XBR6. When Sony decided CYA was far more important than customer satisfaction, I needed to find another option and you guys gave it to me!
post #58 of 1018
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Originally Posted by ratcliff View Post

I ordered the 32" LZ800 this morning.

Against my own judgement and reason, I went ahead and blind-ordered one of these puppies online today as well. I just was not satisfied by what I saw from the other 32" models available on the market and do not expect much from the 32LG70 to justify its supposed price, so the 32LZ800 seems my last best hope. Chances are I will be replacing this in the next year or two anyway once we get some real 32" models (the manufacturers really dropped the ball this year), so I'll just chuck it in the guest bedroom if that's the case.

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Originally Posted by tbessie View Post

As I posted elsewhere, I noticed that my 32LZ800 screen flickers almost imperceptibly (but I notice it) if I turn on "Motion Focus" when using it as a PC monitor (displaying windows, text, etc). When watching movies on it (via the PC), it is less noticeable.

Can someone try this and let me know if they see it, too?

It seems that you are one of the brave few who are trying this out as a computer monitor. I also hope to use this as my primary monitor, so I hope it all works out and I'll report back my findings when it arrives. I plan to hook up a Mac and PC through DVI->HDMI, a PS3 through HDMI and an old model 360 through component or VGA.
post #59 of 1018
Ok I don't know if this "Not 120Hz" nonsense is a US issue but here we go with the european models:

- LZ80 is the basic one
- LZ85 adds "Motion picture pro2 100Hz" and "Motion Focus"
- LZ800 adds "clear panel", better sound and PIP/PAP

That's all. Here it is the comparison between the three models (In Spanish, but... well, "Motion picture pro" is easy to translate to english)

http://www.panasonic.es/html/es_ES/3...&p=TX-37LZD80F


And if this is not enough, here we go with one of the paragraphs of the description of LZ85 model:

"Con una entrada de señal de vÃ*deo de 50Hz, el sistema Motion Picture Pro crea 100 fotogramas/seg. desde 50 fotogramas/seg. Esto permite el aumento del número de fotogramas para permitir una transición natural entre fotogramas, dando como resultado movimientos suaves con imágenes nÃ*tidas.

Con Motion Picture Pro 2, el LCD VIERA también detecta áreas en movimiento y activa el parpadeo de la retro iluminación solo para estas áreas, mejorando con creces la resolución"


That translated minimalistically should be something like...

"With a 50Hz input, Motion picture pro creates 100 frames per second from 50 frames per second. This allows a natural increase in frame count for a natural transition between frames, resulting in smooth movement and clear images.

With motion picture pro 2, the viera LCD also detect moving areas and flickers backlighting on those areas, improving motion resolution."


I think that the second part is a typo and it refers to "motion focus" and not "motion picture pro 2", but ok, I hope this issue is clear now (At least in europe)
post #60 of 1018
I've had mine for about a week now...

Stanley cup in HD was quite the eye candy, both the motion focus on and off. Hooked up a PS3 via HDMI, played 2 new games, and watched a Blue Ray movie. Hooked up my laptop via the PC jack and played a brand new graphics intensive game. No problems whatsoever. Text was clear, it qualifies as 32" monitor. I've got a DVI-HDMI cable but haven't hooked the laptop that way yet.

The sound on this unit is just fine for a TV, loud and clear enough for a regular sized room, but if you're an audiophile you'll definitely want some nice external speakers. Mine is away from the wall and I imagine if it was closer, the sound would reflect better.

If any option in the settings menu is grayed out, you'll have to undo another option to make it available.

I'm quite happy with my purchase.

Higgs
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