Originally Posted by jacob nj
sorry,the center is actually right above the screen pointing out on a shelf not in the ceiling.
i think also the open design is killing he sound. room is half open to ther rooms.
but what im going to do is start with the set up mic , ( i have set the distances , etc )
then go audition some speakers once i have that set up properly , hope all goes well
i really need to get some more sounds of the rear surrounds, as of now i have them in the ceiling, the house is a ranch so its open attic, i just think they have way to much space i think i will try to make a enclosure for them see how that goes.
Make sure your center channel is pointed at the listening position, not facing and firing sound over your head.
How high up are the surrounds in the ceiling? Further than 8'?
And where are your left/right mains located? Wanting a bigger, wider sound could mean they aren't set up properly. Optimizing their location can change the sound drastically. If they are in a cabinet, or close to the TV or walls, not good. They should be 2~3 away from walls and other objects, on stands or other objects with the tweeter at ear height. If you are 10' away from the speakers, they should be spaced about 10' apart if possible (equilateral triangle).
Plus, as others have said, make sure each speaker is calibrated to the same level.
Once you're sure you have everything set up and calibrated the best it can be, re-evaluate what you're looking for. More low end to anchor the sound, meaning a subwoofer upgrade? More immersive surround sound - maybe move the NHTs to the back (mount on the wall, put on stands, or put shelves on the wall and put them there) and get bigger front NHTs that match your current speakers and can fill up the space better.
Room treatments are always good, but there are things you can do (like speaker placement and calibration) that should be done first. Other things like putting a rug over a hardwood floor, putting objects or a blanket over a hard surface coffee table, moving speakers away from walls - all these things can help improve the sound.