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post #211 of 3738
Hi all,

Would like to update on Jiff's superb guide.

For blu-ray, all you need to do is to demux your biggest .m2ts streams using eac3to.

Mkvmerge will not read blu-ray subtitles demuxed in previous step directly. Use the following trick to enable muxing of subtitles with video & audio tracks :
1. Download SUPread & Subtitle Creator (just google for them)
2. Open/run SUPread & load your desired subtitle stream from eac3to
3. Go to options, change format to hddvd!! ... check OCR & export sup
4. Close SUPread, open Subtitle Creator ... go to tools/manipulate sup or vobsub
5. Click open sub & load your hddvd subtitle created by SUPread
6. Save sub as .idx!!!

Now you are ready to mux this idx file with mkvmerge ... ... it works fine!

Hope Jeff's guide is complete now )
bye bye powerdvd & 5.1 audio
post #212 of 3738
Great guide Jiff!

So far I have had 3 successful rips but this last rip has no video after using mkvmerge. The only difference I see is that there was no .flac file generated and I just used the ac3 english track. The sound works after merging and the video works before merging, what could be the problem?

Thanks!
post #213 of 3738
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Hope Jeff's guide is complete now )
bye bye powerdvd & 5.1 audio

Hi videyes,
Thanks for the update ....been meaning to add a complete Blu Guide too but work has been pretty busy at the mo. Will hopefully get it done next weekend. I will include subs with it then and also seamless branching titles etc. May also add some extra stuff.

Hi Gangle,
That really is a strange one ....the fact you just used an ac3 file instead of flac shouldn't make any difference. How big is the resulting file from mkvmerge? What player are you using for playback etc? What compression is used on the origional disc? Would like to figure this out for you, not had anything like this myself.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #214 of 3738
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiffOrange View Post

How big is the resulting file from mkvmerge? What player are you using for playback etc? What compression is used on the origional disc? Would like to figure this out for you, not had anything like this myself.

The resulting file is 19.8GB which looks correct as the video is 19.2GB and the audio track is 533mb. I am using WMP 11 for playback, I have also tried it in Arcsoft TotalMedia Theater, both just play audio. As far as codecs go I have CoreAVC and AC3Filter installed.

The original disc says it has AACS copy protection on it, but AnyDVD HD says it removed it, is this what you meant by compression?

EDIT: The disc is a blu ray and when I add the video into mkvmerge it shows it as V_MPEG2.

Thanks!
post #215 of 3738
Wow, lots of stuff missing here. Data loss sucks
post #216 of 3738
Thread Starter 
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Wow, lots of stuff missing here. Data loss sucks

Yeah I hear that , don't think that we lost too much though. Could have been much worse ....Think it was you that posted last yesterday but I was unable to get in to the last page to read your post. Anything important?
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #217 of 3738
Hi

I've read through this great thread, and am dizzy

I will be doing Blue-ray and just wanted to confirm: the Blue-Ray guide you have been saying will be put here is not yet here, right? (I see the reserved post and presume that is where you plan to put it.)

I've seen different comments throughout about just a couple things different, and about the subs above, etc. But I think it would be simpler for this noob on this to follow 'the Blue-Ray Guide' rather than parse out the misc tidbits throughout this thread.

I understand the effort, and appreciate it too. So, not pushing, just wanting to be sure my interpretation that the BR guide is not here yet is correct.

I can be patient, and will watch for that.

BTW...Would this stuff play through TheaterTek? I have been suprised to not see that player mentioned in this thread (or maybe I missed it...). I have been testing with TMT for now, but haven't purchased yet. I need to make that descision. In the end, I want to play everything through one player, and have it launch from VMC. Right now, TMT will not launch from VMC for SD type of content.
post #218 of 3738
Thread Starter 
Hi Ewingr,
Yes you are correct I have not yet finnished writing the Blu guide ....This is more intended to show advanced features but will of course cover the basics as well in order to build on. You are correct that blu is very simular to HD-DVD, the only real differance is with file structure between the two formats and also with some titles you have seemless branching titles too which I will detail in the guide. I should have it done early next week, work has just been relentless at the mo but it will be there. I'm personally using a combination of MPC and TMT (diff machines) but as long as TheaterTek supports mkv file format then it should work just fine with any file produced using these methods. Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #219 of 3738
Hi Jiff
Thanks.

I've done this type of documentation professionally (well, not for publication, but in my work environment, and for training), and I know what an effort it is. I apprecaite it, and am patient. I will watch for the update.

Regards,
Roger
post #220 of 3738
Hey Jiff - thanks for your time on here! I tried MeGUI for the first time a couple of nights ago and also got the left half of the screen showing up mostly pinkish colored using my National Treasure 2 Blu-ray. Could you take a look at this file and see if you can find something wrong??

LoadPlugin("C:\\Program Files\\AviSynth 2.5\\plugins\\asharp.dll")
# Set DAR in encoder to 16 : 9. The following line is for automatic signalling
global MeGUI_darx = 16
global MeGUI_dary = 9
DirectShowSource("C:\\Movies\\NATIONAL_TREASURE_2\\National_Treasure_2.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
#deinterlace
#crop
asharp(10,4)
Spline36Resize(1280,720) # Spline36 (Neutral)
Undot() # Minimal Noise

ConvertToYV12()


The converttoyv12() was suggested by the script generator when I closed it out so I accepted its recommendation. I noticed the preview showed the pink left half too but let it go. This morning I deleted the Converttoyv12() and the preview still shows the pink left half. I'm pretty sure all the settings in MeGUI are the same as you suggested. Any thoughts would be most welcome! Thanks again -

Mark
post #221 of 3738
Jiff - I forgot to mention that I'm using ver. 0.3.0.1020 of MeGUI if that makes any difference.
post #222 of 3738
I discovered it was the asharp(10,4) filter causing the pink color on the left half of the resulting frames. Changing the values changes the colors, and asharp(0,0) looks the same as not having it at all, so something is odd here. For now, I just left it out until someone more experienced than I can help out. Thanks again!

Mark
post #223 of 3738
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiffOrange View Post

Yeah I hear that , don't think that we lost too much though. Could have been much worse ....Think it was you that posted last yesterday but I was unable to get in to the last page to read your post. Anything important?
Cheers,
Jiff.

Not really. You helped me solve the problem I was having with getting more than 2ch audio over my s/pdif. Although your suggestion of using MPC yielded some undesirable results. I got my 5.1 audio but the video seemed to speed up for a fraction of a second intermittently every few minutes. I read a couple posts here about jittery video with MPC that did not happen with the Zoom player. The Zoom player solved my problem with the video speed ups too. I was in the processes of posting this Sunday afternoon when this site crashed. Are these speed ups a defect in the movie or player? I watched this same movie with WMP and it did not seem to display this effect.
post #224 of 3738
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I discovered it was the asharp(10,4) filter causing the pink color on the left half of the resulting frames. Changing the values changes the colors, and asharp(0,0) looks the same as not having it at all, so something is odd here. For now, I just left it out until someone more experienced than I can help out. Thanks again!

Mark

Hi Mark,
Sorry it took me a while to get back to you ....you are correct that its the asharp filter that causes this I have seen it before and to be honest I'm not sure why it does this. Most people don't experience it all but the occasional person does ....go figure! It may be something to do with the combination of Directshow filters that is created to decode the video depending on the codecs that you have installed. Not sure. What I do know is that asharp was never designed to do what we are asking it to do (origionally a post proccesing filter for use with ffdshow) and some undesirable effects are caused when its placed in the wrong possition depending on the filter combination. If you really want to use it then I would try putting it in after the resize options and have a look at the preview. If its still their then I'm affraid to say you are one of the unlucky ones but don't worry too much it doesn't really effect quality too much if you don't use it. Hope that is helpful.

Quote:
Not really. You helped me solve the problem I was having with getting more than 2ch audio over my s/pdif. Although your suggestion of using MPC yielded some undesirable results. I got my 5.1 audio but the video seemed to speed up for a fraction of a second intermittently every few minutes. I read a couple posts here about jittery video with MPC that did not happen with the Zoom player. The Zoom player solved my problem with the video speed ups too. I was in the processes of posting this Sunday afternoon when this site crashed. Are these speed ups a defect in the movie or player? I watched this same movie with WMP and it did not seem to display this effect.

These are the result of a combination of things ....the thing about HD video is that it has a really unusual refresh rate (23.976) this can be proccesed to produce a 60Hz image but it is not perfect by any means and we are working with codecs and renderers that were never designed to deal with such rates. In the long run differant renders and graphics cards etc deal with it differantly so to answer your qs no their is nothing wrong with either the player or the video, it is just that the player needs to be set up to deal with this unusual refresh rate. The reason video speeds up is to keep in time with audio which will be output to match your display settings but the video is running at a different rate but trying to do the same speed as the graphics card while your renderer is trying to stay faithful to the videos native refresh rate. It would seem that zoom reads and matches the headers better for your sys config thats all. What ever works for you at the end of the day.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #225 of 3738
Thanks Jiff - I'll give that a try. I don't have many codecs installed yet - just Arcsoft's so far. One thing I was thinking I should do is start planning on a faster system for doing these! Thanks again!

Mark
post #226 of 3738
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Thanks Jiff - I'll give that a try. I don't have many codecs installed yet - just Arcsoft's so far. One thing I was thinking I should do is start planning on a faster system for doing these! Thanks again!

That would actually make sense it is possibly a problem with using the arcsoft h264 filter and asharp (I think when acturbo had this problem he used TMT), like I said before it was designed to be used with ffdshow (and I know from experience it works ok with coreAVC too). It is possible that blocking arcsoft and having ffdshow installed would eliminate the problem. I will investigate. Needless to say it doesn't make that much diff anyway (more use for older softer films) so I wouldn't really worry if you can't get it to work right away. I'll keep you posted if I get to the bottom of it. Yeah fasteer computers do make this work a whole lot easier ....recently built a new Q6600 machine and that can do a whole encode in ~4-5 hours when my older pentium D used to take ~15-20 hours ....how times change. Good luck mate.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #227 of 3738
Well - its time for more hardware and decoders I guess! I made it through the encode to 720p and it turned out pretty darned well, not withstanding the 20 hours of processing


Thanks again, Jiff!
post #228 of 3738
I've got a bit of a strange one...

MKV's have been working fine for me in VMC and WMP up until I swapped my video card out for a nice shiney 9600GT.

now they only play in WMP.

I've reapplied all of the registry tweaks in VMC.

How can I find out what's wrong?

I get the first few seconds of audio but no video and then VMC gives an error!
post #229 of 3738
Thread Starter 
Hi Mark,
Sounds like a codec issue .....may be that HA is an issue with the codecs you are using. What codecs are you using (decoding i.e. Arcsoft) and for that matter what type of compression is used in your mkv's i.e. VC-1, AVC etc? I'm not really that familiar with VMC myself but most directshow players can be diagnosed using graphedit (drop your mkv into graphedit and you should see what filters are being used). Also what card does your new 9600GT replace?
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #230 of 3738
the 9600GT replaced a 640mb 8800GTS.

I'm away from my machine at work right now, I'll have a look when I get back...
post #231 of 3738
is there an easier way of converting Blu-ray to mkv yet ?
post #232 of 3738
I was a bit daunted at first with all of the batch file shenanigins but once you've done a few, it really does become very easy...
post #233 of 3738
Thread Starter 
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is there an easier way of converting Blu-ray to mkv yet ?

Sorry but no this is the easiest method and is used by many so their is very good peer involvement for people with problems.Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #234 of 3738
Any idea how long will it take for me to convert a bllu-ray to 1080p mkv file on a computer with following specs.

Athlon x2 5400+
4GB RAM
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
post #235 of 3738
Thread Starter 
If your just planning on making a direct backup i.e. no re-encode to lower bitrates/resolutions etc then it will take about the same time as it does to rip the disc in the first place plus time taken to mux the audio video tracks back together ~1 hour give or take 15 mins. If you have AnyDVD running in the background and do it strait from the disc then eac3to will demux the streams as it rips them from the disc into individual audio and video streams ...pretty much done in real time with the speed of ripping. Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #236 of 3738
OK.

here's what Graphedit shows for the video path:

MKV->Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD8)->ffdshow Video Decoder-> Video Renderer

and audio:

MKV->madFlac Decoder->ffdshow Audio Decoder->Default DirectSound Device

how can I change this?
post #237 of 3738
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiffOrange View Post

If your just planning on making a direct backup i.e. no re-encode to lower bitrates/resolutions etc then it will take about the same time as it does to rip the disc in the first place plus time taken to mux the audio video tracks back together ~1 hour give or take 15 mins. If you have AnyDVD running in the background and do it strait from the disc then eac3to will demux the streams as it rips them from the disc into individual audio and video streams ...pretty much done in real time with the speed of ripping. Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Jiff.

I'm not planning to keep 30+ GB files on my HTPC and that's why I would have to recode movies to more manage able 10 - 15GB. With that said, do you think my HTPC will be able to handle it ?
post #238 of 3738
I tried a different file and this played OK and used 'WMVideo DMO' which I think is VC-1 so I guess my problematic format is AVC?

How do I change the decoder used by Media Centre for AVC files?

Or, is it just a case of using ffdshow outside of PowerDVD?

and why does this work OK in Media Player 11?
post #239 of 3738
I can't browse the contents of my HD-DVD discs in XP using an LG H20L combo drive with or without AnyDVD. I can rip the disc to my hard drive using AnyDVD and see the filenames from there....apart from doing that I can't work out how to construct the .bat file.

What am I doing wrong?
post #240 of 3738
Hi Jiff, cograts, it's nice; sorry i've just seen your thread.

Some points if you don't mind:

1)Extract-mux video to mkv via eac3to:

You don't need to add the option: -stripPulldown since eac3to automatically does this.

Muxing VC1 into an mkv container by haali or eac3to (which is using haali multiplexer as well) creates problem if you wanna go one step ahead like remuxing mkv/audio into a ts or m2ts for BD building.
Have a look at this and please share your comments:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...58#post1170058

BTW no problem if you gonna leave the file in mkv as remuxed by mkvmerge.

2)Re-encoding:
You don't need to make a graph since you are using default DMO and your source file is mkv which is recognized by avissynt script creator inside the MeGui. It will make this job automatically.

BTW today, preset profiles have been updated. Remove all profiles manually and update MeGui...

best.
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