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post #241 of 3740
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajamils View Post

is there an easier way of converting Blu-ray to mkv yet ?

Demux video by TSMuxer,
Demux audio with eac3to,
Remux them into an mkv container via MkvMergeGui.
post #242 of 3740
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Demux video by TSMuxer,
Demux audio with eac3to,
Remux them into an mkv container via MkvMergeGui.

Does that work better than using eac3to demux both audio and Video? I tried using just eac3to for demuxing audio and video and had mixed results playing back the final MKV file.
post #243 of 3740
TSMuxer has problems with extracting audio files; eac3to makes this job better for sure.
But i haven't lived any issues in demuxing video files with TSMuxer while removing pulldown as well.

So, it's up to you; i prefer using eac3to in remuxing two evo files into a VC1 container since TSMuxer can't do this.
post #244 of 3740
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Demux video by TSMuxer,
Demux audio with eac3to,
Remux them into an mkv container via MkvMergeGui.

Why bother complicating the process by using two seperate programs ....the output is the same (video is untouched people) all you are doing is adding time to process by doing each stream seperatly. Ultimatly the resulting mkv is the same (with or withour pulldown flags!). The reason you have mixed results playing back the mkv is codec/refresh setup plain and simple. Hope that clears things up and saves you some time.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #245 of 3740
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Hi Jiff, cograts, it's nice; sorry i've just seen your thread.

Some points if you don't mind:

1)Extract-mux video to mkv via eac3to:

You don't need to add the option: -stripPulldown since eac3to automatically does this.

Muxing VC1 into an mkv container by haali or eac3to (which is using haali multiplexer as well) creates problem if you wanna go one step ahead like remuxing mkv/audio into a ts or m2ts for BD building.
Have a look at this and please share your comments:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...58#post1170058

BTW no problem if you gonna leave the file in mkv as remuxed by mkvmerge.

2)Re-encoding:
You don't need to make a graph since you are using default DMO and your source file is mkv which is recognized by avissynt script creator inside the MeGui. It will make this job automatically.

BTW today, preset profiles have been updated. Remove all profiles manually and update MeGui...

best.

Hi nice to have you with us,
Thanks for pointing this out, I did know that the -stripPulldown flag is no longer required I've just not updated my guides yet to reflect (keep forgetting ....I'll do it today). I'm also aware of the VC-1 problem you speak but unlucky for me I don't have a Blu burner to create BDs with so I've not done it personally and that is why I never included it but fair comment I suppose that others will at some point so I'll put in a note at the end of the guide. Thanks should have thought about this myself really since I've had such a good responce to the guides.

Not sure what you by make a graph with meGUI ....my guides only uses a filter graph for direct interface with AVISynth and x264.exe which is completely seperate method to the MeGUI system that I wrote for others who don't like using so many .bat files. I may have misunderstood your comments, please clarify if so. Thanks for your input though its always good to have somebody knowledgeable to help with Qs and to point out thintgs, oh and thanks for the heads up on MeGUI will update later.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #246 of 3740
Thread Starter 
Quote:
OK.

here's what Graphedit shows for the video path:

MKV->Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD8)->ffdshow Video Decoder-> Video Renderer

and audio:

MKV->madFlac Decoder->ffdshow Audio Decoder->Default DirectSound Device

how can I change this?

Hi Mark,
I think that your problems stems from the fact that ffdshow is in your filter graph and is probably creating problems for HA with your shiney new video card. The first thing that I would do is to disable ffdshow for both audio and video settings. Go into the ffdshow config window and click on codecs, then where is says AVC/h264 etc go to the dropdown box and click disable, in addition to this make sure nothing else is selected in any of the other options for post processing and apply. I would also do the same for ffdshow audio i.e. disable flac decoding as this is limited to 16 bit and hence the reason for using madflac. In addition make sure that HA is selected in the cyberlink decoder and you should be set to go. Not sure about WMP 11 ....its certainly possible that the way its designed it only uses the first filter in the list so you get output or it just defaults to one filter or the other. ffdshow was designed to be usable with other filters for its post - processing abilities but it does cause problems from tiem to time especially where HA is used. Hope that helps out ...let us know how it works out. Would be interested to know.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #247 of 3740
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I'm not planning to keep 30+ GB files on my HTPC and that's why I would have to recode movies to more manage able 10 - 15GB. With that said, do you think my HTPC will be able to handle it ?

Hi ajamils,
Yes your HTPC is def capable of it ...its more a question of how long will it take. I would say depending on settings (bit rate etc) it would take between 8-12 hours for a good quality 2 pass varriable rate encode give or take depending on the movie lenght. I personally start the process before going to bed and in most cases its finnished or close to by the time I get up the next day. Anymore Qs please feel free to ask. Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #248 of 3740
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I can't browse the contents of my HD-DVD discs in XP using an LG H20L combo drive with or without AnyDVD. I can rip the disc to my hard drive using AnyDVD and see the filenames from there....apart from doing that I can't work out how to construct the .bat file.

What am I doing wrong?

Hi,
The reason that you are unable to browse your HD DVDs in XP is that it doesn't natively support the UDF 2.5 file system. To solve this you will need to install the Toshiba driver which you can get here:

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=87602

Hope that sorts you out, the link was live this morning but if its been killed etc email me and I'll upload the driver for you .

With regard to the .bat files you just write your text in notepad as shown in the guide and then save it with a name of your choice followed by .bat (type the whole thing and hit enter eg somefile.bat)
Cheers,
Jiff.
post #249 of 3740
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiffOrange View Post

Hi nice to have you with us,
Thanks for pointing this out, I did know that the -stripPulldown flag is no longer required I've just not updated my guides yet to reflect (keep forgetting ....I'll do it today). I'm also aware of the VC-1 problem you speak but unlucky for me I don't have a Blu burner to create BDs with so I've not done it personally and that is why I never included it but fair comment I suppose that others will at some point so I'll put in a note at the end of the guide. Thanks should have thought about this myself really since I've had such a good responce to the guides.

Not sure what you by make a graph with meGUI ....my guides only uses a filter graph for direct interface with AVISynth and x264.exe which is completely seperate method to the MeGUI system that I wrote for others who don't like using so many .bat files. I may have misunderstood your comments, please clarify if so. Thanks for your input though its always good to have somebody knowledgeable to help with Qs and to point out thintgs, oh and thanks for the heads up on MeGUI will update later.
Cheers,
Jiff.

Jiff, thanks for your kind response, nice to being here.

You can give it a go. You don't need to have a BD burner.

I also make graphs as direct interface for avs since pin info is not recognized by mostly used tools and it is more flexible method in selecting filters independently...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=136505

You use two methods in re-encoding:

1)X264 directly,
2)X264 indirectly via MeGui.

What i meant here is related with MeGui; your mkv outputs can be used directly by AviSynt Creator (which is a tool coming with MeGui) without any need of manual graph- which mostly hated by the end users, in creating automatic avs files- another hated one, which will be accepted by MeGui as source file.
And instead of writing codes preset profiles can be used easily.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rica View Post

OSL,

Load MeGui and update it and restart the application.
MeGui automatically loads all needed secondary software including AviSynt Script Creator (which makes auto avs files from your source files.)
Open MeGui and select: x264:SA-HD DVD (encoder settings) and MKV (file format)
Open AviSynth Script creator under Tools and if you want to config the avisynt profile select what you want (i selected just input and crop)



Untick Resize and tick crop and "Auto Crop"



And cilick "save", you will select the name of the avs file which will be created; i selected newest.avs.



Now MeGui will open created avs file, change the output name-in my case i made newest_out.mkv



Lets have a look at the avs file created by AviScriptCreator:

Code:
DirectShowSource("C:\\Users\
ica\\Desktop\\Newest\
ewest.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
crop( 0, 146, 0, -144)
(BTW, i normally create my avs files using graph since i fell free myself in selecting demuxers and decoders-see my thread)

Click "Auto Encode" and select these on opening popup window:



Select "Queue"



Don't care about this popup and select "yes" and start encoding:





Quote:


2.2.7- Re-encode the video with MeGui:

How?

I think you are familiar with this message as our friend D2VCreator never recognizes TS pin info:



so i think you have two ways:

1)Converting video of remuxed TS to mkv via Haali under Graph: (since demuxing again to h264 and remuxing to mkv is no handy with MkvMerge and no way for VC1 files.)

Haali Splitter > Matroska Muxer (output.mkv)



And AviSyntScriptCreator will recognize the mkv files.

Default demuxer and decoder will be used in this case.(Running graph on the back-stage)
In my case default filters are Haali and WM Video Decoder DMO:







2)Preparing a graph using the filters as you wish and making a manual avs and opening this avs with MeGui.

Here is what i selected in my own on-purpose graph;

File Source(Async) > Arcsoft MPEG Demux > Arcsoft Video Decoder selected as independent of the default filters:




best.

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post #250 of 3740
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiffOrange View Post

Hi Mark,
I think that your problems stems from the fact that ffdshow is in your filter graph and is probably creating problems for HA with your shiney new video card. The first thing that I would do is to disable ffdshow for both audio and video settings. Go into the ffdshow config window and click on codecs, then where is says AVC/h264 etc go to the dropdown box and click disable, in addition to this make sure nothing else is selected in any of the other options for post processing and apply. I would also do the same for ffdshow audio i.e. disable flac decoding as this is limited to 16 bit and hence the reason for using madflac. In addition make sure that HA is selected in the cyberlink decoder and you should be set to go. Not sure about WMP 11 ....its certainly possible that the way its designed it only uses the first filter in the list so you get output or it just defaults to one filter or the other. ffdshow was designed to be usable with other filters for its post - processing abilities but it does cause problems from tiem to time especially where HA is used. Hope that helps out ...let us know how it works out. Would be interested to know.
Cheers,
Jiff.

Thanks Jiff!

I'd already deselected the AVC codec but still had raw video selected.

now, strangely the movie doesn't play immediately, but if you press pause and then play it comes to life... Strange!!!
post #251 of 3740
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiffOrange View Post

Hi,
The reason that you are unable to browse your HD DVDs in XP is that it doesn't natively support the UDF 2.5 file system.

With regard to the .bat files you just write your text in notepad as shown in the guide and then save it with a name of your choice followed by .bat (type the whole thing and hit enter eg somefile.bat)
Cheers,
Jiff.

Hi Jiff, thanks for all this by the way.

Yes finally figured that out for myself. The only problem I was having with the .bat files was knowing what source filename to use as I couldn't browse the disc. All sorted now.

It took me a while to work out that I was going to have to encode the audio track in flac myself. I was halfway through doing this on Knocked Up when I got an error. The log told me I needed to clean the track with Delaycut. I've found this program but really don't know what to do with it. Any clues?
post #252 of 3740
Just want to add my thanks for this guide.
I'm not doing any extra encoding but now I can use BD as I want.
Using ZoomPlayer and my popcorn device.
post #253 of 3740
Got a small problem.

Everything except subtitles are working.
The rip I use is from a BD disc, I've ripped the subtitles, converted it with supread. Ran it through subtitle creator.
Now.

If I put into the mkv file with mkvmerge I don't get any subtitles (they are listed but nothing on screen).
If I select the .idx file directly in ffdshow the subtitle is up and running.
So it doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the subtitle itself, it's just that it won't show from the .mkv.

Any help appreciated.
post #254 of 3740
Fredrik did you convert it to SRT?
post #255 of 3740
Not sure that was an available option.

What I did was load the BD sup into supread, on the options tab I checked the OCR checkbox (not the OCR insert tag box, not sure if I should do that) and the HD-DVD checkbox and then I started the export process.

Then I loaded the "HD DVD" subtitle sup into subtitle creator and under Tools I selected Manipulate..... option.
In the next window the sup was loaded and I could see the subtitles.
I selected all and saved that as *.idx.
The only other choice is *.sup.

The thing is that when I run the mkv and I load the same .idx (within vobsub) the subtitles works.
But it seems that the subtitle doesn't work from inside the mkv.
The subtitle track is listed when I load the .mkv.
post #256 of 3740
Fredrik,

I follow these steps:

1) Extracting subtitle with eac3to;

To get track information:

eac3to input.m2ts (enter)

You will see all the tracks and track numbers; select your track (in my case 19 )

eac3to input.m2ts track no: output.sup

For instance:

Code:
eac3to v2.58
command line: eac3to\\eac3to.exe  "F:\\HITMAN_F4\\BDMV\\STREAM\\00002.m2ts" 19:  "C:\\Users\
ica\\Desktop\\TEST\\subtitle.sup"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 7 audio tracks, 29 subtitle tracks, 1:34:15
1: Chapters, 25 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS, Italian, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz
4: DTS Hi-Res, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 3072kbps, 48khz
5: DTS, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz
6: DTS, Russian, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz
7: AC3, Czech, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
8: AC3, Hungarian, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
9: AC3, Polish, 2.0 channels, 224kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
10: Subtitle (PGS), Italian
11: Subtitle (PGS), Italian
12: Subtitle (PGS), Ukrainian
13: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
14: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
15: Subtitle (PGS), Russian
16: Subtitle (PGS), Russian
17: Subtitle (PGS), Czech
18: Subtitle (PGS), Czech
19: Subtitle (PGS), English
20: Subtitle (PGS), Hungarian
21: Subtitle (PGS), Hungarian
22: Subtitle (PGS), Polish
23: Subtitle (PGS), Arabic
24: Subtitle (PGS), Modern Greek
25: Subtitle (PGS), Hebrew
26: Subtitle (PGS), Icelandic
27: Subtitle (PGS), Portuguese
28: Subtitle (PGS), Croatian
29: Subtitle (PGS), Slovenian
30: Subtitle (PGS), Turkish
31: Subtitle (PGS), Bulgarian
32: Subtitle (PGS), Romanian
33: Subtitle (PGS), Serbian
34: Subtitle (PGS), Estonian
35: Subtitle (PGS), Latvian
36: Subtitle (PGS), Lithuanian
37: Subtitle (PGS), English
38: Subtitle (PGS), Polish
[s19] Extracting subtitle track number 19...
[s19] Creating file "C:\\Users\
ica\\Desktop\\TEST\\subtitle.sup"...
Video track 2 contains 135576 frames.
eac3to processing took 10 minutes, 26 seconds.
Done.
(BTW, madshi's new version removes pulldown from h264 and mpeg2 as well:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...47#post1176847 )

2) Converting sup to srt:

Open SupRead and check the options first:



Select OCR all:



Select SRT and save srt:




3) Remuxing into mkv with mkvmerge...


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post #257 of 3740
Thanks for the little guide.
Unfortunately it didn't work that well with the OCR part, didn't seem match the characters that well, especially the swedish åäö.
Tested suprip as well, it was better but not quite.
On the other hand in suprip you can correct it directly, though a bit boring to go through 500 screens
post #258 of 3740
I've also tested the new version of Suprip today; even it seems a little bit difficult, it's easier than i expected and better suits to non-english subtitles.
I think i gonna use SupRip anymore.

BTW, i forgot saying i can watch subtitles on MPC-HC. (using with arcsoft, cyberlink or mpc decoders and EVR Custom Presenter (for Vista32) ).

Sample with haali > arcsoft:



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Sample with arcsoft matroska splitter > arcsoft:



Graph behind the MPC:



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Another one with haali > cyberlink:



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Haali > mpc:




EDIT: SupRip 1.01 has been used here in converting SUP to SRT.

http://exar.ch/suprip/


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post #259 of 3740
hey thanks for the cool tutorial. I followed it and everything ran fine with eac3to.

I however cant play the audio track extracted. the 5.1 main audio. attatched is my files eac3to.exe produced.
LL
post #260 of 3740
You should have extracted core ac3;



The code i used:

Code:
eac3to v2.58
command line: eac3to\\eac3to.exe  "F:\\TRANSFORMERS_ES_D1\\HVDVD_TS\\FEATURE_1.EVO" 3: "C:Users\
ica\\Desktop\\TEST\     est_01\ rans.ac3"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 14 subtitle tracks, 1:11:53
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
2: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2), -84ms
3: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
4: E-AC3, Italian, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
   "Italian"
5: E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
   "Castilian"
6: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
   "Director Commentary"
7: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -111ms
8: Subtitle, English, "UK"
9: Subtitle, Italian, "Italian"
21: Subtitle, English, "HUD"

*************

[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Removing dialog normalization...
[a03] Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
[a03] DirectShow reports 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
[a03] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a03] Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
[a03] Creating file "C:Users\
ica\\Desktop\\TEST\     est_01\ rans.ac3"...
Video track 1 contains 103422 frames.
Video track 2 contains 129181 frames.
eac3to processing took 10 minutes, 35 seconds.
Done.
In this re-encoding process default nero audio decoder2 and default libaften ac3 encoder have been used by eac3to; and finally eac3 to ac3-core conversion process has been completed...



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post #261 of 3740
thanks for reply, the code I used(and Im a newb with this code stuff)

eac3to.exe "G:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDOFDREAMS1.EVO"+"G:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDOFDREAMS2.EVO" "F:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDODREAMSHD.mkv" -stripPulldown

I deleted the 2.0 audio streams and just tried playing with the audio and I thought it was supposed to be flac? I followed the tutorial for it.

 

FIELDODREAMSHD - Log.txt 1.7197265625k . file
post #262 of 3740
The file you got under F:\\FIELDOFDREAMS ; FIELDODREAMSHD - 3 - E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz.eac3 is an eac3 file which you can't listen with ordinary filters.

(I can listen it with those filters btw:

)

So you have to re-encode it to core ac3 (or any other format you like)

Two ways:

Re-encoding to ac3 at the beginning:


Code:
eac3to.exe  "G:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDOFDREAMS.EVO"+"G:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDOFDREAMS2.EVO"   3: "F:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDODREAMSHD.ac3"
or open your destination folder F:\\FIELDOFDREAMS and rename FIELDODREAMSHD - 3 - E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz.eac3 to FIELDODREAMSHD.eac3 (so as to shorten the command)

So your code will be

Code:
eac3to.exe ""F:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDODREAMSHD.eac3" "F:\\FIELDOFDREAMS\\FIELDODREAMSHD.ac3"

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post #263 of 3740
Just a little update on my subtitle problem.
I converted the sups to .srt (not sure that is totaly necessary) and loaded up graphedit.
If I connect the subtitle to the "Text 2" input in ffdshow it works.
Now I just wonder how I can get that to stick no matter which mkv file I load.

Any hints appreciated.
post #264 of 3740
Given it a try with MPC-HC?

(for vista EVR custom, for XP VMR9 renderless has to be selected as video renderer.)
post #265 of 3740
Nope, running Zoom Player.
Tried to autoload the graph but I get input pin errors but then zoom continues to play anyway....strange.

Edit: Seems to be a ZP issue, MPC-HC playes the subs without problems.
post #266 of 3740
Thanks ricabullah, unfortunately I get this error

These command lines are such a PITA as one mispell (probably the problem and I just dont see it) renders it useless.

 

log.txt 0.291015625k . file
LL
post #267 of 3740
It seems you have a double quote in the beginning.
post #268 of 3740
ah I was looking at that too and didnt know if that was good or not thanks I'll try again.

bingo!

cool. now all I gotta do is remux into mkv. or re encode to 720p. can I put an mkv video file(is there such a thing?) into an mkv container? for some reason the initial eac3to process created a mkv and eac3 files.

double cool. I had some problems earlier with encoding x264.(dos window flash n go) moved everything(all the tools) (not the movie) to C:\\programfiles and good to go now. this is really cool but really long!!! why cant some expert coder out there automate this process into a nice tool?? us basic people dont like to do command lines lol. I thought we have moved on from the dos days
post #269 of 3740
Try this:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=135095



BTW, you should use mkvmergegui for remuxing into mkv




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post #270 of 3740
thanks. ya I knew a gui(2.0 i think?) existed for it. just not this one. cool.
you have a link for any good ini files? or will that not work because of too many variables involved.

even with the user interface its still complex. actually all those options on there make the tutorial on here look easy lol.
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