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post #14731 of 14941
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

What would you be downgrading to ? wink.gif

already have, Panasonic 65VT60 smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Jeff_DML View Post

already have, Panasonic 65VT60 smile.gif

Congratulations on your new tv smile.gif

I will guess... Remembering i work in UK currency £'s... That and the fact we pay double (sometimes more by the way :eek)

For example, you could buy a 60" cheaper than i could buy a 50" lol. Certainly was the case around 2008/09 Kuro time.

Anyway i am going on a bit here, in dollars let me think... $1000 perhaps if in good condition for the 5020FD...?
post #14733 of 14941
That would be at the upper end of what one could obtain, because the new TVs aren't much of a downgrade (and an upgrade in some ways) from the plane vanilla non-Elite anyway.
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thanks guys, seems about the range I was thinking.
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Question for other Kuro owners out there regarding my 500m:

Believe it or not, I've never watched cable or regular tv programing on this tv- only movies.

We don't have cable and don't have any interest in getting that or a satelite service. Does anyone know what the best option is for watching basic tv channels on this monitor? Is there a coaxial cable used or do people work with HDMI. Maybe I'm 1 in a million on this, but the girlfriend wants to watch some tv news now and again and I'm just curious what my options are from other 101/500m/9G owners.

Does this post make sense? smile.gif

Thanks
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

Question for other Kuro owners out there regarding my 500m:

Believe it or not, I've never watched cable or regular tv programing on this tv- only movies.

We don't have cable and don't have any interest in getting that or a satelite service. Does anyone know what the best option is for watching basic tv channels on this monitor? Is there a coaxial cable used or do people work with HDMI. Maybe I'm 1 in a million on this, but the girlfriend wants to watch some tv news now and again and I'm just curious what my options are from other 101/500m/9G owners.

Does this post make sense? smile.gif

Thanks
The KRP is strictly a monitor, so there is no built-in tuner; therefore, you will need some kind of set-top box. I would recommend Dish network with a connection to your TV via HDMI and then you could watch by just having your TV and sat receiver on as long as you connect some small speakers to the KRP's speaker outputs. You did know that the KRP has a 10wpc amp built in, didn't you. Dish carries most local channels and you can sign up for a very basic programming package for not too much money. Also, usually they have some promotional packages if you "sign on the dotted line."BTW, if you do decide to go with Dish, if you will let me refer you to them as a new customer, both you and I will receive a $50 credit on our bills. Suhweet! Also, BTW, I don't work for Dish. Good luck!
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I guess you did not read the part where he stated he did not want to subscribe to any type of pay TV service, which would definitely include not wanting Dish satellite service.

All he needs is a external off air tuner/set top box to watch local broadcasts. And, if he has been using his 500m to watch movies via a DVD/Blu-Ray player, I be more than willing to wager that he already also has some sort of provision for supply the sound, which could also be used with a off air set top box.
post #14738 of 14941
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

Question for other Kuro owners out there regarding my 500m:

Believe it or not, I've never watched cable or regular tv programing on this tv- only movies.

We don't have cable and don't have any interest in getting that or a satelite service. Does anyone know what the best option is for watching basic tv channels on this monitor? Is there a coaxial cable used or do people work with HDMI. Maybe I'm 1 in a million on this, but the girlfriend wants to watch some tv news now and again and I'm just curious what my options are from other 101/500m/9G owners.

Does this post make sense? smile.gif

Thanks

I have no idea what they're currently going for nor what you can find, but I always my 101FD with a cheap Tivo box for around $50 and just didn't subscribe to their service. It comes up with a notice on the screen when changing the channel saying that the subscription is inactive, but I just ignore it. I know that you stated that you don't want to subscribe to cable at the moment, but since it has two coax inputs (one for OTA and one for cable -- which I'm getting for free from my development) it was ideal for me and could prove useful if you decide to go down that road in the future.
Edited by curly21029 - 7/25/13 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

I guess you did not read the part where he stated he did not want to subscribe to any type of pay TV service, which would definitely include not wanting Dish satellite service.

All he needs is a external off air tuner/set top box to watch local broadcasts. And, if he has been using his 500m to watch movies via a DVD/Blu-Ray player, I be more than willing to wager that he already also has some sort of provision for supply the sound, which could also be used with a off air set top box.
Yes, I DID read that part, but there aren't too many stand-alone OTA tuners out there, plus in order to use one of those, he will need to install an antenna, either inside or out. The Tivo might be an option, but their only non-DVR unit costs $150.00 plus the monthly subscription fee of $14.95 (for honest people). And, by the way, why don't you let Mr. Marceau speak for himself?!
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Yes, I DID read that part, but there aren't too many stand-alone OTA tuners out there, plus in order to use one of those, he will need to install an antenna, either inside or out. The Tivo might be an option, but their only non-DVR unit costs $150.00 plus the monthly subscription fee of $14.95 (for honest people). And, by the way, why don't you let Mr. Marceau speak for himself?!

Wow... did Tivo boxes go up in price? This is the one that I purchased and it was definitely cheaper when I did.

A serious question concerning your bit about "honesty": is it unethical for me to have used it without a subscription? If so, I really had no idea and will edit my post as to not encourage others to do the same. I just researched what hardware would accomplish the job, found the cheapest available product, and made the purchase.
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Originally Posted by curly21029 View Post

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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Yes, I DID read that part, but there aren't too many stand-alone OTA tuners out there, plus in order to use one of those, he will need to install an antenna, either inside or out. The Tivo might be an option, but their only non-DVR unit costs $150.00 plus the monthly subscription fee of $14.95 (for honest people). And, by the way, why don't you let Mr. Marceau speak for himself?!

Wow... did Tivo boxes go up in price? This is the one that I purchased and it was definitely cheaper when I did.

A serious question concerning your bit about "honesty": is it unethical for me to have used it without a subscription? If so, I really had no idea and will edit my post as to not encourage others to do the same. I just researched what hardware would accomplish the job, found the cheapest available product, and made the purchase.
I don't know Tivo, but I've always understood that the monthly fee was for their directory service. I don't see a problem if someone doesn't use the Tivo directory service. Please clear up my Tivo ignorance. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I don't know Tivo, but I've always understood that the monthly fee was for their directory service. I don't see a problem if someone doesn't use the Tivo directory service. Please clear up my Tivo ignorance. smile.gif
Last time I was at Tivo's website, it appeared to me that the $14.95 fee for their programming guide had to be part of the deal and that the unit couldn't be used or activated without it.
post #14743 of 14941
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Originally Posted by curly21029 View Post

Wow... did Tivo boxes go up in price? This is the one that I purchased and it was definitely cheaper when I did.

A serious question concerning your bit about "honesty": is it unethical for me to have used it without a subscription? If so, I really had no idea and will edit my post as to not encourage others to do the same. I just researched what hardware would accomplish the job, found the cheapest available product, and made the purchase.
Without the program guide, how can you know what's on any particular channel or, better yet, how can you find any channel without spending a lot of time "surfing?" I'm sure there is a way to use this device without paying for the service, but that's NOT what is was designed for. You can probably sneak in the side or back exit at a movie theatre and watch a movie too, but that's not what you're supposed to do.
post #14744 of 14941
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Without the program guide, how can you know what's on any particular channel or, better yet, how can you find any channel without spending a lot of time "surfing?" I'm sure there is a way to use this device without paying for the service, but that's NOT what is was designed for.

To be honest, I don't actually know what Tivo's program guide is or does. To put it simply, I purchased the box to use as a tuner. It displays the channel number when changing channels and works the same way as any of my televisions with internal tuners always have -- it's completely hassle-free. If it's anything like the one that comes with Time Warner's cable box that they give you when you sign up to have a bazillion channels (I was forced to "upgrade" by my brother when he moved in with me for a short while) then I can't really say that it's an attractive prospect for me. I don't watch much television and only watch a few channels when I do. (63 is History, 36 is Discovery, 37 is A&E... and 58 is Cartoon Network, heh)
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

You can probably sneak in the side or back exit at a movie theatre and watch a movie too, but that's not what you're supposed to do.

C'mon now. That's completely apples-to-oranges. It's not like I stole the thing. It was readily available at Best Buy, I took it to the register, and I paid the advertised price for it. Not once during this process was it stated that the price was subsidized due to an obligatory subscription. I hooked it up and immediately started using it as a tuner without issue. There were absolutely no restrictions to circumvent. I've always assumed that subscribing to the service would allow me to pause, fast forward, rewind, and record shows... all features that I have no interest in using, but don't dispute that others would enjoy having them. (as my brother did/does)

EDIT: Apologies to all for bringing this thread off-topic.
Edited by curly21029 - 7/26/13 at 2:57am
post #14745 of 14941
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

Yes, I DID read that part, but there aren't too many stand-alone OTA tuners out there, plus in order to use one of those, he will need to install an antenna, either inside or out. The Tivo might be an option, but their only non-DVR unit costs $150.00 plus the monthly subscription fee of $14.95 (for honest people). And, by the way, why don't you let Mr. Marceau speak for himself?!


Like your Dish solution is free from any reoccurring monthly charges, not!
There are enough stand alone tuners out there that he should be able to find one, even ones with DVR's included, and the antenna is no big problem either.
Your Dish solution has as many, or even more gotchas, than a off air tuner does. And big deal, so he might need to look up a TV listing online for free, or in a daily newspaper.
Sorry, but considering you are so fiercely trying to steer him towards getting Dish, it sure looks to me like you were really hoping to snag that $50 referral fee from Dish for having him sign up to that service more than anything else.
Edited by Johnla - 7/25/13 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

Like your Dish solution is free from any reoccurring monthly charges, not!
There are enough stand alone tuners out there that he should be able to find one, even ones with DVR's included, and the antenna is no big problem either.
Your Dish solution has as many, or even more gotchas, than a off air tuner does. And big deal, so he might need to look up a TV listing online for free, or in a daily newspaper.
Sorry, but considering you are so fiercely trying to steer him towards getting Dish, it sure looks to me like you were really hoping to snag that $50 referral fee from Dish for having him sign up to that service more than anything else.
Think what you want but I felt that the Dish solution was an easy fix for not too much money and without making much of an effort. Again, why not let Mr. Marceau make the decision rather than trying to be his "lawyer." End of story!
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Can you disable the DRE (contrast feature) in certain picture modes on a non-elite 9G (5020FD) via ControlCal or any other way?

Would like to know the easiest method if there are any, reason I'd like to do this is because my friend is interested in a Darbee to use in Game mode but I'd like to disable the DRE first because both together will be way too much.
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

Can you disable the DRE (contrast feature) in certain picture modes on a non-elite 9G (5020FD) via ControlCal or any other way?

Would like to know the easiest method if there are any, reason I'd like to do this is because my friend is interested in a Darbee to use in Game mode but I'd like to disable the DRE first because both together will be way too much.

Answer from D-Nice circa 2008:
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

So Pioneer NA decided to create a simplified A/V menu (similar to pre-Kuro). The items listed as "No menu items for these functions" were considered "least user friendly". So, each A/V picture mode will have these features turned on in some fashion. Here is how they will be setup:



A/V Mode ---- DRE --- Black Level --- ACL --- Enhancer --- Gamma --- CTI


Dynamic--- High --- On --- On ---- 2 ---- 2 ---- On

Performance-- Mid ---- On --- On ---- 2 ---- 2 ---- On

Movie--- Off --- On ---- Off ---- 2 --- 1 --- On

Sports--- Mid --- On --- On --- 2 ---- 2 ---- On

Game--- Off --- Off ---- Off --- 2 ---- 2 --- On

Standard --- Mid --- On --- On --- 2 ---- 2 ---- On


The NR features are on for every A/V mode. Optimum mode changes these settings depending on what the light/color sensor detects. Also, there is no way in the SM to adjust these features.
post #14749 of 14941
Thanks, are those 100% confirmed on all non-elite models? Because I could swear the DRE was on by default, at least I think that's the case when I installed the e-lite board and saw it already being enabled in the pro adjustments menu.
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

Thanks, are those 100% confirmed on all non-elite models? Because I could swear the DRE was on by default, at least I think that's the case when I installed the e-lite board and saw it already being enabled in the pro adjustments menu.

I honestly don't know if/where secondary confirmation was ever given, but I trust D-Nice as much as anyone in these matters.
post #14751 of 14941
Im moving to high elevation and wont be taking most of my Kuro's with me. Anyone in the Washington State or Oregon area interested in a KRP-600M, PDP-5010 or a PDP-4280 PM me for details. Im a little over an hours drive south of Seattle.
Edited by baron2 - 8/1/13 at 8:05pm
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If anyone is around Atlanta, this is a great price on a KRP-500M:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161080362374?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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My 6020 recently started getting the dreaded "eight flashing blue lights" and now will not even turn on. Read on this forum here that there is a possible fix by installing a replacement AWV2457 board and have scoured the net for one but every source seems to be out of stock. Anyone know where I can get access to one of these boards? Thanks!
post #14754 of 14941
You wouldn't believe how many 'reports' of this eight blue blink phenomenon all of a sudden over in AV forums also.

How many hours has the 6020 got ?

A guy i spoke with got a quote in the last week - from a service centre so they certainly still are available - even out of warranty.
post #14755 of 14941
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

You wouldn't believe how many 'reports' of this eight blue blink phenomenon all of a sudden over in AV forums also.

How many hours has the 6020 got ?

A guy i spoke with got a quote in the last week - from a service centre so they certainly still are available - even out of warranty.

I have sold many of my modified boards to Elite & Non-Elite owners lately do to this fix this issue. It seems to becoming more common lately as you mentioned. The problem is that if you have an Elite the factory boards are obsolete. My modified Non-Elite boards work in an Elite to resolve the problem with no loss in performance. In a Non-Elite my board will fix the issue & turn it into an E-Lite, unlocking the Elite settings. I just shipped one to MT24 to help him fix his issue. I still have 3 boards in stock right now, if anyone else is interested please shoot me a PM.
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Originally Posted by Jano18 View Post

I have sold many of my modified boards to Elite & Non-Elite owners lately do to this fix this issue. It seems to becoming more common lately as you mentioned. The problem is that if you have an Elite the factory boards are obsolete. My modified Non-Elite boards work in an Elite to resolve the problem with no loss in performance. In a Non-Elite my board will fix the issue & turn it into an E-Lite, unlocking the Elite settings. I just shipped one to MT24 to help him fix his issue. I still have 3 boards in stock right now, if anyone else is interested please shoot me a PM.

Nice one.

I spoke to a tech/service centre back in February (UK) about my warranty with regards to my new Kuro which has until the end of April 2014. He did say that parts will be available for probably the next ten years (not that it will be most people's main display for as long as that for the most part but seemed confident they would be available somewhere/somehow. But right enough what he didn't specify is they would always be brand new. Perhaps he was talking about refurbished tested working parts but not necessarily new.

I guess it may be different in the UK at the moment though... Because some will still have the remainder of the original Pioneer 5yr warranties. But i guess only these guys will know for sure
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right,The AR coating hasn't improved over last years coating. So it will be identical to the 8Gs.thanksjPYb
post #14758 of 14941
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Originally Posted by helpbaga View Post

right,The AR coating hasn't improved over last years coating. So it will be identical to the 8Gs.thanksjPYb

Hi,

Noticed you're a new poster and that was your second post. Can we help you find the correct thread.

I have no idea of the relevance of your post regarding the screen coating of the 9G being the same as the 8G. Perhaps i missed or have forgotten about original relevant posts. But you are correct the coating is the same as the 8G on some 9G's. Relevance to your post can be read here for anyone interested in the "CNET" review of the 5020FD can be read in the link i have provided here... Under the (Bright Lighting) performance section...

http://m.cnet.com/reviews/pioneer-kuro-pdp-5020fd/33002523

Just the actual filters are different on the 9G... More so the Elites and then the KRP's i'm sure.
Edited by Stu03 - 8/8/13 at 2:24am
post #14759 of 14941
What i found most interesting about the "CNET" review of the 5020FD though was that 'MOVIE' mode was 40 FTL... I wonder if that was with contrast kept at the default 40 ?..
post #14760 of 14941
Sorry to bust in but I need some help I just picked up a 5020 and it won't power up one quick blink of the blue light then the red stand by blinks 8 over and over. Done some reading seems to be ADRS what ever that is,I think something with the power supply which is a AXY 1200-b. Has anyone had this problem and Im I on the right track thinking its the power supply and it just needs replacing if I can find one? Thanks for any help
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