The Official Pioneer 9G non-Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 100

I see there is an ISF profile for the 9G Elite's but none yet for the 9G NE's. I wonder when the profile for the NE's will be available OR if the Elite profiles would work with the NE's

It's now been over a month since that Amazon bargain and the price has been sitting at the high point ever since. I couldn't order at the time as I was about to leave for vacation. Frustrating.

Interesting, I guess I skimmed through the review a bit quickly at first, nice to know they didn't see that on the non elites even if it's impact was minimal. I'm pretty excited for HT's review, first real review other than D-Nice's (I don't put much stock in anything CNET says). Even though I know it'll be pretty favorable it's always nice to read reviews

So hard to find a good and honest review these days, they always seem to have a hidden agenda. One thing that makes me a bit angry is how some magazines tend to rate pretty much anything as very good or better. It seems like a lot of the magazine/online reviews are more about marketing these days and who pays more to get it. Those errors you mentioned are pretty glaring, especially for one of the most awaited displays of the year. One has to wonder whether they were intentional, especially with the experienced staff they have at their disposal.

Hi everyone, I have been dithering around between the elite and non-elite kuros for a while... yesterday morning while making my weekly trip to Costco, I found they had maybe 10 6020's for sale... The price was enough to persuade me.. I know there is no price talk on this forum but the first number was a 4 the second a 2... the rest you can guess (oodles less than BB). given that this company has a wonderful return policy I snapped one up. They were all July builds, and apart from some creative machining to make my pre-existing wallmount (from a 46 inch XBR2) work with the goofy spacing of the mounting screws all is very very well. no buzzing, no green tints etc that have been mentioned here, and best of all NO CLOUDS! (check the sony lcd forum if you are unaware of this problem). so for all you wall sitters, maybe a trip to CC is in order!

No review but the negatives i find with the 9g are green and yellow are not as accurate as i would like. Grayscale has errors, green push. Color seems to get in the way with blacks and is hard to correct.

My grayscale seems very good especially coming from a Panasonic PZ85 which had a very green tint to it when set to warm. At least the color decoding is good so you can fix the errors once we get access to the grayscale.

Based on comparing same scenes on my crt monitor. Green is more green and yellow is more yellow.



Low end yup. Do you acknowledge a green error dnice? Do different models, serial numbers make a difference?

No. Bone stock crt sony monitor. Take my opinion with a grain of salt. But out of the box settings green-yellow- with any adjustments does not look as good as the crt.





If the green is a error in the grayscale you would not need touch green high low controls? Then what?

I think it's likely true that Pioneer designed slight color saturation into its 9G line. Many watch TV in rather brightly lit rooms, me too. I noticed that when I applied D-Nice's recommended settings to my 6020, the color, which he recommended be set at -4, was not quite saturated enough for me, so I increased it to the Pioneer default, -2, which looked better. I also increased the contrast from D-Nice's recommended 38 to the Pioneer default setting of 40. In all other respects, though, D-Nice's recommended settings improved my 6020's PQ.


It seems to me that these days virtually all plasmas, indeed, all HDTVs, are very good or better. We AVSers tend to obsess over weaknesses which the great mass of consumers don't even notice or think are trivial, not that that's a bad thing.

Last week you said their was no green in the grayscale in pure mode and now you say there is? I don't believe you said how to eliminate it. Color management?

What size is your CRT monitor's screen?

19in. If your point is color is better due to the smaller screen, that would be a good point

Unless you can convince me, i'm convinced G-low is the best way to remove it.

So what control do you use? I would not ask if you already said.

Thanks. Ill report my findings in the settings thread.

Magnolia just delivered a buzzing 6020, so for those considering the set you may want to look at the buzz thread first. Not trying to bring the discussion here at all, just wanted new people to be aware that it is there.

WOW. 60% have buzzing of which 31% have trouble with it!

not good!

80% of all statistics are made up on the spot

Hey D,

Any update on when you will be releasing the 9G Non-Elite calibration instructions?

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Don't do that.

uh oh, now i have a dead pixel on my monitor