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post #6961 of 14721
1/21/09 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Not sure what you are asking here. Do you have a receiver that puts out the 5.1 surround sound? If so, you'll wire the built-in speaker's both sides to the center channel of that receiver, and need to use it when you watch TV. You shouldn't wire it to the receiver and to the TV's audio outputs.

I guess I was thinking more of routing the speakers through the TV and leaving the other 4.1 set up through the receiver and simply not muting the TV..is this a no-no?
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post #6962 of 14721
1/21/09 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by elfjuice View Post

Wow, only took me two posts to look like a complete idiot. Thanks for the help. In my defense, I did read the manual, but was unclear about the power button (thought it was the little power on button on the side). Thanks for all your help. My blood pressure is returning to normal again.

It's easy to do....
Congrats on your new set..
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post #6963 of 14721
1/21/09 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Since you just posted in, what ambient lighting conditions do you use for viewing areas when you do your calibrations, or does that not matter with the settings of the panel if the instrumentation is closely attached to the glass of the panel? When I dial in your pre/post-calibration settings on Movie mode, I find the panel a bit dim, and without 'pop', although my tweaking still yields very black bars, almost matching the bezel, and a crisp, yet still yellowish whites. Skin tones and colors seem correct to my eyes in my dim, but still lighted room area.

Day calibration, I only use the i1pro as it can be place right on the screen. I do not trust the PR-655, or any non-contact meter in anything environment beyond a pitch black room due to light contamination.
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post #6964 of 14721
1/21/09 at 7:51pm
i pulled the trigger on a 5020/BDP-51FD last night from buy.com. Hard to beat the deal. It's on a slow truck, so I have plenty of time to get anxious over it.

this thread has been very informative (as has the whole board) and I'm looking forward to life with a Pio plasma.
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post #6965 of 14721
1/21/09 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Day calibration, I only use the i1pro as it can be place right on the screen. I do not trust the PR-655, or any non-contact meter in anything environment beyond a pitch black room due to light contamination.

D-Nice, since you seem to be an expert on these TVs, is the sharpness enhancement and noise reduction fully defeatable in movie mode? A review claims the sharpness isn't fully defeatable and that's making me hesitant to pull the trigger on one of these TVs.
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post #6966 of 14721
1/21/09 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by johnb405 View Post

So nobody in Oklahoma

Any advice?

Try Jeff Meier and Chad Billheimer. I think Doug Weil will tour that area sometimes too.

Edit: Shawn Byrne also covers your area.
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post #6967 of 14721
1/21/09 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by AlexNoVA View Post

i pulled the trigger on a 5020/BDP-51FD last night from buy.com. Hard to beat the deal. It's on a slow truck, so I have plenty of time to get anxious over it.

this thread has been very informative (as has the whole board) and I'm looking forward to life with a Pio plasma.

Great deal... I matched it at my work (Best Buy) so I wouldn't have to wait for the shipping delays. Congrats on your purchase
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post #6968 of 14721
1/21/09 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by teiresias View Post

Does anyone know if it would be a bad idea to run the TV with it still sitting in the base of the box it is shipped in?

I'm getting my 5020 delivered to my current address, but will be moving in about two weeks. When it's delivered I'll definitely open the box, inspect it, plug it in, and make sure the panel is ok and the electronics aren't DOA.

I'm wondering if I could leave the TV in the base part of the box (after you lift off the top) and start breaking it in now while I can't really set it up, so that it's broken in by the time I get it setup in my new place.

Basically, does the TV vent out of the bottom at all so that I'd possibly overheat the set or anything? I may just go ahead and assemble the stand I've bought and sit it on that until I just pack everything up, and just put the stand in the U-Haul assembled.

the 5020 comes in the box with a stand already attached. the bottom foam basically covers the master power switch, and the full bottom of the TV. i wouldn't want to run it for any significant period of time partially enclosed like that. like another poster suggested, just take the TV out of the box and sit on the floor attached to the stand if you want, then place back in the box to move. the only packaging that might be a bit of a pain to align properly is the foam for the top, which will want to fall down around the sides of the TV when you put the top part of the box back on. you can probably tape the two pieces together to hold them in place.
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post #6969 of 14721
1/22/09 at 12:03am
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Originally Posted by STILESP113 View Post

the greyscale adjustments have to do with control cal right?

yes, you would need ControlCal to adjust the greyscale.
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post #6970 of 14721
1/22/09 at 4:46am
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Originally Posted by 42041 View Post

D-Nice, since you seem to be an expert on these TVs, is the sharpness enhancement and noise reduction fully defeatable in movie mode? A review claims the sharpness isn't fully defeatable and that's making me hesitant to pull the trigger on one of these TVs.

If you mean the Home Theater review, the guy used standard mode for testing because he didn't know how to calibrate it. Movie mode will defeat EE at sharpness -15 but it can't produce single pixel lines. Meaning you'll be able to display content with no EE but it will be less sharp or detailed compared to a TV that can faithfully resolve single pixel lines without blurring them together.
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post #6971 of 14721
1/22/09 at 4:52am
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Originally Posted by 42041 View Post

I'm reading Pioneer's site, and this part of the specs made me raise my eyebrows...

DRE Picture Yes
Black Level Yes
ACL Yes
Enhance Mode Yes
Gamma Yes
CTI - Color Transient Improver Yes
3D Digital Noise Reduction Yes
Field Noise Reduction Yes
Block Noise Reduction Yes
Mosquito Noise Reduction Yes
Tuner Noise Reduction Off / On (for each channel)

Does this mean all this processing is undefeatable? Is it only applied in certain AV modes (i intend to use movie mode)? If it's constantly doing noise reduction and whatnot, that would be a major dealbreaker...

Movie mode is pretty clean, there is some processing on (CTI, Black Level) but it's pretty good, Game is about the same as movie with a higher color temp and a more aggressive ABL (From what I've seen). The rest of the modes are horror shows with practically every PQ killing option turned on.
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post #6972 of 14721
1/22/09 at 5:16am
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Originally Posted by vud911 View Post

Why? You don't read, anyway. Else you wouldn't be asking these repetitive questions that been answered toward you over and over.

This specific question been answered via a link to another thread, the setting thread for 5020fd, in one of your past post.

blah blah..congrats you are the smartest person alive
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post #6973 of 14721
1/22/09 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by STILESP113 View Post

blah blah..congrats you are the smartest person alive

What does it have to do with being the smartest person alive? All I said was you don't read, which your reply kinda prove .
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post #6974 of 14721
1/22/09 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by STILESP113 View Post

blah blah....

Most guys on here have been quite patient with you and your repetitive questions about settings and possible damage to your panel. I would suggest you use your remote control, adjust the TV to your liking in whatever mode you think is best, and then just relax and enjoy it.
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post #6975 of 14721
1/22/09 at 5:49am
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Day calibration, I only use the i1pro as it can be placed right on the screen....

Thank you for that information!
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post #6976 of 14721
1/22/09 at 6:11am
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Originally Posted by Duds72 View Post

I knew the freakin price would drop after i bought my 5020. Granted i got an awesome price as it was and awesome service from robert and Wendy at Value Electronics, but $400 is $400 to me. oh well, at least i am in hi-def heaven

I bought mine the same time as you also from VE. Doesn't feel so bad once you factor in shipping and tax. Then that 400 dollars looks more like we only paid 50 more. I just think BB is a joke when they have these sales on Blu-ray players and TVs and not a single store in a 100 mile radius has them in stock.
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post #6977 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by elfjuice View Post

Wow, only took me two posts to look like a complete idiot. Thanks for the help. In my defense, I did read the manual, but was unclear about the power button (thought it was the little power on button on the side). Thanks for all your help. My blood pressure is returning to normal again.


not to worry..I did the same thing..scared me to death till i realized the push button on the back panel....welcome to the club
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post #6978 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by DevilDog151 View Post

I bought mine the same time as you also from VE. Doesn't feel so bad once you factor in shipping and tax. Then that 400 dollars looks more like we only paid 50 more. I just think BB is a joke when they have these sales on Blu-ray players and TVs and not a single store in a 100 mile radius has them in stock.


was a real scam by BB..let's see what bait and switch they try next since CC is gone.....I know Robert personally...there isn't a nicer guy you could ever meet..thank god for people like Robert and his wife in the electronics world..the thought of only BB clowns running the show is enough to make one nauseous
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post #6979 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:06am
Anyone buy the 5020 from BestBuy?
I heard they have a 10% off coupon, which would be nice since you have TAX.
Would be nice if they would through in the BD51 too!
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post #6980 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:07am
Plasma Concept has a better deal right now, you might wanna check it out.
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post #6981 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:18am
Robert and Wendy are awesome. I couldn't be happier with the service they gave me. And now that i think about it, the amount of questions i had for them on top of their awesome service is worth the price difference to me.

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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

was a real scam by BB..let's see what bait and switch they try next since CC is gone.....I know Robert personally...there isn't a nicer guy you could ever meet..thank god for people like Robert and his wife in the electronics world..the thought of only BB clowns running the show is enough to make one nauseous
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post #6982 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

not to worry..I did the same thing..scared me to death till i realized the push button on the back panel....welcome to the club

On the two 5020's I received (Returned the first one because of a dead pixel), there was a yellow sheet packed in with the remote that clearly indicated how to power the TV on the first time.

Did you guys not have this yellow sheet?
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post #6983 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:26am
Robert and Wendy @ Invision display?
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post #6984 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:28am
Robert is the owner of Value Electronics, I think.
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post #6985 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:32am
correct

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Originally Posted by vud911 View Post

Robert is the owner of Value Electronics, I think.
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post #6986 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:35am
Thanks, I'll check them out.
Not to dime out Invision but they did screw me on my 5060...
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post #6987 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by Nascar Dog View Post

On the two 5020's I received (Returned the first one because of a dead pixel), there was a yellow sheet packed in with the remote that clearly indicated how to power the TV on the first time.

Did you guys not have this yellow sheet?

6020, nope never saw it....
Sonny
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post #6988 of 14721
1/22/09 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by Sonnydigs View Post

6020, nope never saw it....
Sonny

Must be a Canadian packaging thing
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post #6989 of 14721
1/22/09 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by Nascar Dog View Post

Must be a Canadian packaging thing

Mine that I bought from work (best buy) had the yellow sheet on the top of the tv taped to the foam wrapper... it clearly explained how to first power up the set. Could it be the later build dates? Mine is September of 2008
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post #6990 of 14721
1/22/09 at 8:08am
I'm pretty sure mine had that yellow sheet

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Originally Posted by jvcjbl View Post

Mine that I bought from work (best buy) had the yellow sheet on the top of the tv taped to the foam wrapper... it clearly explained how to first power up the set. Could it be the later build dates? Mine is September of 2008
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