Samsung BD-UP5000 Firmware 1.3 Released Report BUGS\FIXES - Page 3

Regarding the "hidden" DD 5.1 track in TrueHD.. that track only exists in the BRD specs, not the HDDVD specs. Thats why HDDVD requires a DD+ track to be included on discs. (High Def Digest put together an article that explains this difference between the two specs).. notwithstanding I Am Legend where WB decided they didnt need to roll with a DD+ track.

so, if it is playing TrueHD in 5.1 off an HDDVD the player is decoding the lossless TrueHD track. Then they output that as PCM (lossless). If you have optical and dont have the bandwidth for PCM 5.1 it will be re-encoded into DTS like the Toshiba HDDVD players did.

So the only question left, are we getting the DTS-MA track or the core? Its in both HDDVD and BRD specs to have a core "DTS" track, so without Sammy coming out and commenting on it, we will never know.

Ahhh, that's lame.

I'm with you on this one.. one thing I really miss from my AX2.

I just put in The Bourne Ultimatum HDDVD, and my Yamaha shows "Dolby Digital +" on the display.

So, every format bitstreams, and all formats are re-encoded to PCM via analog and HDMI with the exception of DTS-MA (unless Sammy wants to confirm it does that now as well).

How is the sd audio drop issue. Has anyone had a chance to play around and see if its gone?

The one DTS-MA disc I have: Pan's Labriynth HD DVD has DTS-MA 7.1. Since DTS core is 5.1 only, it is possible to test how Samsung treats the DTS-MA track via either analog 7.1 or HDMI in PCM mode. Unfortunately, my receiver can do neither of those (only 5.1 analog).

good call, I own that movie as well. Im 5.1 only as well though. But at least we know how to test it, we just need someone to do it.

RAT (BD) - PCM shows up as 5.1, however Dolby Digital displays at 6.1

LFoDH - DTS-MA shows up as 7.1

Please help. How do you get this new firmware??

just plug ONLY the rear surround analog outputs from the 5000 into your receiver and see if there is sound

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...p_nm=BD-UP5000

Then download, unzip it, and burn the ISO image to a CD-R. Make sure you don't just copy the iso file on the disc.

Should we call the PCM bug fixed????

It is time for me work a little bit, but the 2 PCM movies I have tested (RAT and POTC:AWE) on my Yamaha all show only 5.1 being input to the AVR, not 7.1 as previous.

I guess we'll need someone else to look.

See above. Confirmed it for Michael Clayton as well.

you are a genious.. we can see if its playing the Rear surround channel, just out of the wrong speakers. Lets hope

anyone have the Pans labrynth with a 7.1 analog set up. I may have to pick it up just to try it at home lol Im anxious to see if this player can decode dts hd ma over the analogs.

Good tip. I'll try it later.

Congratulations to the UP5000 owners.

I had really considered this player before I purchased the LG but couldn't wait it out. I'm glad for you all and please enjoy the bitstreaming of the advanced audio codecs. I know that is the sweetest part!!

Reportedly, the 1500 fixed it. Interesting that Sorrysung told us it's not a problem, yet they "fixed" the "non-problem" on their new model.

Doug

After a long long wait and going through ps3, toshiba a-35 and returning the LG /the hardest decision in my life/ , my patience has finally paid off. Should we celebrate with a nice bottle of champagne tonight?

yeah, I just cant use my awesome upscaling BRD/HDDVD player on any TV show that I own.

Not a problem at all.

I'll try to test this tonight. I have been watching Battlestar Galactica Season 3 and every episode without fail has an audio dropout at about the same point in each episode. If this is fixed I will be extremely happy!

I can't believe I got this player for $300!!

Wonder where the bashers are today.

Ok I an confirm that DTS-MA is being output (played i-Robot BD) & True-HD (from Harry Potter - Phoenix HD-DVD). I have the 5000 set to Bitstream-Audiophile thru HDMI to my Yamaha RX-V663. Don't know if it's bitstreamed or decoded since my AVR can decode. I can also confirm DD+

this thread should be a sticky

OMG. My TV displays the hardware that's playing...it says "BD-P1500" instead of "BD-UP5000".....

And there were flickers at the start of I Am Legend HD DVD at the menu and few seconds after the movie is selected.

It bitstreams everything, for sure. But what does it decode?

The real test is what comes out of the analog outs, since that can ONLY be decoded to PCM. Of course, it doesn't say what it was decoded from (DTS-MA, or DTS-MA(core)), so one needs to test the surround back channels with a disc that supports DTS-MA 7.1, such as Pan's Labyrinth. TrueHD 5.1 appears to work as 5.1 PCM, up from 2.0 before.

To sum things up:

Dolby True HD- bitstream
Dolby True HD- decoded /output via analog as PCM/
DD+ -bitsream
DTS-MA -bitstream /bug after the FW- discs with 5.1 now show 7.1/
PCM- bitstream/bug-showing 7.1 instead of 5.1 now fixed/
PIP- enabled /player now profile 1.1/
450 MB of persistent memory showing instead of 128MB
Dropouts- fixed on multiple discs
Ok, am I missing anything?
Did anyone check if MA is decoded?...most likely no, but you never know. Unfortunately I can't help, I am not at home
anybody?

450 MB of persistent memory showing instead of 128MB.

My Yamaha shows DTS-HD MSTR is being input as 7.1, even though the disks are 5.1 DTS-HD MA.

so, the bug now is when playing -MA