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post #511 of 851
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Originally Posted by Stephen1254 View Post

I have an HL72A650 and, like many others, have been tweaking the picture. I started with the settings at the beginning of this thread and I'm currently using a slightly modified version of the settings Tom Norton used in his Home Theater review of the HL61A650.

My question is on use of the sharpness control. Setting it to 0 appears to blur some images and graphics. Raising the sharpness to 10 brings those images and graphics into better focus but seems to contribute to a "shimmering" effect in certain scenes, like an aerial fly over of a forest.

What exactly does the sharpness control do and is it possible to get the better focus without the negative effects by tweaking other settings?


Just leave it off. It may seem soft to you but you will find issues with it on at even at the minimul level 1 setting. I have a DVDO Edge and I had to turn the Detail and Edge Ehancements down below zero to keep from getting noise and ringing. There is one popular Subway commercial that will look like the actors are wearing led fringe on their clothes if there is any sharpness on. The TV set is much sharper than a Mits even set to zero sharpness. My advice is turn if completely off.
post #512 of 851
I just bought a HL56A650 DLP from Bernies, and when it's an all black screen I can see white spots. I returned the first one and now the second one is doing it as well. The first one had two 2inch white circles in the middle of the tv and the second one has a 3 inch circle in the middle and two off near the borders. It doesn't show when watching a movie. Only when its on an all black loading screen or when the picture is really dark. It is the tv because i unhooked everything else to make sure. The people at Bernies tell me this is normal. ???
Thank you
Kevin
post #513 of 851
This could be, and most likely, is nornal. There should have been a slip of paper included with the set that explained the occurance of these spots due to the reflection of light, origiating both internal and external to the display, off of components within the display. As long as you do not see the spots during normal viewing, I suspect what you are seeing is normal.
post #514 of 851
It only happens when it really dark in the movie. Like an all black sceen at night.
post #515 of 851
In most cases (but not all), the spots are caused by the reflection of ambient room light off of components inside the set. Try watching a dark scene in a completely dark room. If the spots go away or are diminished, the problem is reflected light and is normal. If nothing changes then you have a dilemma: the spots could be totally from internal reflections or you could have a defective set. Another check is to bring up a black screen, open one of the side ports and looking at the back of the screen, see if there is light reflected from a component onto the screen. FWIW.
post #516 of 851
Thread Starter 
Don is right, this seems to be normal. My A650 has a light spot toward the bottom center that shows up only when the set is off or is displaying a black screen. It's not noticeable during normal viewing. It seems to be caused by ambient light getting inside. Due to the vent holes, mirrors, strong light source, hardware inside and open spaces, there're a lot of opportunities for internal and external reflections in DLPs, one of the design issues you learn to live with at the bargain price. Now if it seems excessive you may have a defective set or may be a candidate for a flat panel.
post #517 of 851
Thanks uys. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't the tv. I thought about the odds of two tvs doing the same thing.
The spots don't apear when the tv is off, only when its on and dark screen.
Thanks again
Kevin
post #518 of 851
I was looking for a tv stand for my HL72A650, but the good ones are running for more than a grand, so I decided to improvise. Here's how my set up looks.

Two Ikea Coffee tables ( $49 each ), has plenty of room left in the front and on the the sides to mount your speakers.




Samsung HL72A650 / Front : Mythos ST/ Center : Mythos Ten/ Surrounds : Mythos Gem XL / Poineer A/V receiver
post #519 of 851
Thanks for the link.
post #520 of 851
Your set up looks very nice. It's imagininative and money saving. We went with black wire shelving till we find a unit we like for a price that won't have us eating beans for a month. Definitely sturdy but lightweight, requires little if any dusting, easy to move and very configurable.
Again good job.
post #521 of 851
Here's my main issue with Samsung DLP TVs (had it with my previous 2006 model as well, along with my current A650 model).

When using HDMI and the "HDMI Black Level" set to NORMAL (as recommended by almost everyone's settings).....the picture has a white "haze" or frosting tint and it washes out the colors and decreases the picture quality. Changing the black level setting to LOW darkens the black way too much and makes the picture too rich and it's very difficult to view 'night scenes' in movies because the black is too overpowering.

The solution that I have found is to set the 'Black Level Adjust' setting to HIGH and setting the 'Gamma' level to (0). It removes the haze from the picture and darkens it just enough that you can still see detail in black colors and in night/dark scenes.

My current display settings:

Mode: Movie
Contrast: 86
Brightness: 47
Sharpness: 5
Color: 47
Tint (G/R): G52/R48

Detailed Settings

Black Level Adjust: High
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
White Balance: 0
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhance: 0
xvYCC: Off

Picture Options

Color Tone: Warm2
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal
Color Gamut: sRGB
post #522 of 851
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post #523 of 851
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Originally Posted by champzz View Post

I was looking for a tv stand for my HL72A650, but the good ones are running for more than a grand, so I decided to improvise. Here's how my set up looks.

Two Ikea Coffee tables ( $49 each ), has plenty of room left in the front and on the the sides to mount your speakers.

Samsung HL72A650 / Front : Mythos ST/ Center : Mythos Ten/ Surrounds : Mythos Gem XL / Poineer A/V receiver

I like the use of the coffee tables. Just curious but what is the purpose of the blanket or whatever behind the TV?
post #524 of 851
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has shared so much information here. While I do not own one of these yet, I'm on the hunt for a new TV and the price/size/feature combination that these units offer is fairly mind blowing. This is an amazing resource!
post #525 of 851
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Originally Posted by parsonbeast View Post

what does it mean high(off)?

I read the review and don't get it either. I am not sure if the parentheses are his changes or what, it isn't very clear.
post #526 of 851
[/quote]...what is the purpose of the blanket or whatever behind the TV?[/quote]

Just a guess on my part but it appears that it could make viewing the screen easier on the eyes when there is daylight streaming into the room.
And I think it unifies the whole set up and perhaps even offers some sound modifying properties as well.
post #527 of 851
The screen went blank and smoke began coming out the back. Any ideas?

I turned it off immediately and it kept trying to come back on. I unplugged the power and set a fan on it to get rid of the smell. Shortly after I plugged it back on because when it was coming back on it had picture. Sure enough it still has picture despite it going blank before I saw the smoke.

Could it be that dust or something else got into the unit and caught fire somehow? It seems odd that you'd see smoke and the unit still function.
post #528 of 851
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Originally Posted by kaje View Post

I like the use of the coffee tables. Just curious but what is the purpose of the blanket or whatever behind the TV?

Well, i took down my 40 inch lcd tv and the speakers from the wall, so it left a bunch of holes which was unsighltly. I will get to repairing the drywall later but as of now, just covered it up with a black paper :-)
post #529 of 851
Thread Starter 
jmgand01, your set is still in warranty so I have just two words to say: SERVICE CALL!!!
post #530 of 851
Have a quick question. I'm thinking of going from a HLS5087w to the HL56a650. The only concern I have is the black Level. The review from Home Theater said that the black level is among the worst it has seen. Is this true? Will I be able to tell the difference? I watch alot of sports, but also watch alot of movies(blu ray and dvd). Thanks for the advice.
post #531 of 851
Thread Starter 
I think the review was overly harsh on black level. I've watched a lot of sports since I got my HL56A650 and love the PQ. And lots of friends who own LCDs and plasmas seem to show up at my house now for the game! Funny, at first friends kept saying "why would you buy that thing" but after they see it set up in my media room I don't hear that any more!

Movies in 1080p look great too. Try to view a few DLPs in good settings and decide for yourself. I wouldn't be terribly concerned about that review.
post #532 of 851
I love my 72, but honestly, the black levels aren't great. But the magic hands of Eliab will be here next week for a professional calibration, so I expect they'll be much better in due time.
post #533 of 851
Thread Starter 
Sangs, we'd love to hear how that works out for you and what Eliab has to say about the A650. I understand they're a little tricky to calibrate but if anyone knows what he's doing it's Eliab.
post #534 of 851
So Quentin, you think it would be and upgrade from HLS. The black levels can't be worse.
post #535 of 851
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by twoodwoody View Post

So Quentin, you think it would be and upgrade from HLS. The black levels can't be worse.

I do think it would be a great upgrade from the HLS. First off two more years of development and improvements have been incorporated. Not saying the HLS is bad but the current model is better. Is there any way you can compare them side by side to be sure? And maybe even look at the 61A750 if that's not too large. I don't want to twist your arm but I sure don't have a problem with the black level myself and not one person who's viewed the set has either (many who own new 1080p LCDs and plasmas).
post #536 of 851
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Originally Posted by Quentin2 View Post

Sangs, we'd love to hear how that works out for you and what Eliab has to say about the A650. I understand they're a little tricky to calibrate but if anyone knows what he's doing it's Eliab.

Oh don't you worry, I'll be sure to post about it. My old Tosh was a biatch to calibrate, but Eliab had it singing like Bono.
post #537 of 851
How much longer are they going to produce the A650's. Are they done manufacturing them or are they going to continue for a little longer? I need to sell my old TV first and don't know how long that will take. Thanks
post #538 of 851
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sangs View Post

Oh don't you worry, I'll be sure to post about it. My old Tosh was a biatch to calibrate, but Eliab had it singing like Bono.

Let's hope it's not singing like Sonny Bono!

twoodwoody, I'd say we'll see A650s and A750s through March and probably longer but really we just don't know how long the 2008 models will last. They may disappear fast in showrooms but should be available online. Circuit City closing down doesn't help any.
post #539 of 851
I just had a BB PSP replacement for a HLR5078 and the replacement unit was the HL50A650. It was a pain too, because the stores computer said no BB warehouse had them and they were backordered with no date given (which the manager said meant they would never get anymore). The Magnolia manager said Best Buy had clearanced them because they were discontinued and no longer being made.

To find one, he had to go through store inventories store by store until he found one a couple hundred miles away that still had one in store. He had it transferred to his store for the PSP replacement.

Best Buy has a few left in their outlet store, but I think supplies are drying up quickly.
post #540 of 851
Thread Starter 
Well I haven't seen an A650 in town over the last month at Best Buys, Circuit City or RC Willey but I have seen A750s.
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