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post #31 of 38
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Originally Posted by obrienaj View Post

This guide is written following some frustrating hours trying to get closed captions activated on the Time Warner Cable Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. Andrew O'Brien

Thanks very much, Andrew, for the detailed posting and the injected humor---and the icons, too! You did a great job making this very readable and humorous. I also really liked the specific details you provided.

What settings did you end up using for your digital captions? I think it can be helpful to share this information for people who don't want to spend a lot of time tweaking the captions but who do want to get some colors in their captions. For example, I often use yellow for the text in the captions but sometimes use green (which happens to be a bright green), and I'll use either black for the background or purple (a color only available from my Sharp HDTV so far).

FYI, captions are not required for programs that air between 2 am and some later hour---don't remember whether it's 6 a.m. or an earlier hour. But that might not explain why you fell asleep with captioning but woke up without it, especially if a re-boot brought the captioning back.

It's odd that you're getting weather alerts via captioning and not the usual text crawl. You're supposed to be able to continue seeing the captions for the program AND the weather alert. There may indeed be some kind of improper setting, or maybe engineers at the TV station generating the weather alert need to be educated on the difference between the two topes of messaging. This is probably an error caused by the TV station, by the way, not the cable company. Cable companies generally only relay programming provided by other stations or content providers; they don't usually produce their own news. My understanding is that they also generally only relay captioning; they don't create it. I suppose if you see this problem on more than one channel, then you *would* have reason to suspect your cable company is causing it, but if you only see it from one, then it's probably the station for that channel.

If anyone would like to discuss general captioning issues, there's an email list called Captioning at http://groups.yahoo.com. (I don't own that list but I'm on it.)

Again, thanks for the terrific guide, Andrew!

Dana
post #32 of 38
Although this may seem redundant with respect to prior posts, I would like to share critical details on the process.

The problem: No online documentaion from Verizon or Motorola for the QIP 6200-2 STB for enabling enhanced, CEA 708 closed captions. Also applies to the QIP7100.

NO viable, informed tech support, tier 1 and 2.

Here is my fix, with crtical issues highlighted:

This is the trick for viewing enhanced (CEA 708 ) closed captions on the Motorola QIP 6200-2 STB, the standard issue for FIOS HDTV applications:

1: Turn on the TV and the STB.

2: Power OFF the STB and IMMEDIATELY press SELECT, then MENU.
( A 5 second delay will leave you with a blank screen)

3: The MENU will display all of the CC options, such as font size, color, background color, etc.

4: Scrolling down, one will find SETTINGS. to the right AUTO.

5: SETTINGS must be clicked and set from AUTO to USER.
(This is a CRITICAL step, otherwise all of your careful selections go out the window! )

6: Once done with CC settings, power OFF the STB and back ON again.


CRITICAL ISSUE: There must be NO delay between powering OFF the STB and selecting SELECT and then MENU!

Motorola surely deserves an award for the most non- intuitive STB on the market!

In the end though, with the battle won, I am totally delighted with all aspects of Verizon FIOS , TV, internet and phone.
post #33 of 38
I appreciate your write up and I tried to follow it.

I have Time Warner and an 8300HD hooked through HDMI to a Samsung.

I can Turn CC "on" and get them all the time. If I turn CC off...the captions go away.

However, if I set "On with Mute" and then mute the cable box which kills the audio, I still do not get Captions.

I called Time Warner and they sent new Firmware and it still does not work.

Any Help is appreciated. Thanks

John
post #34 of 38
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I noticed recently that Dish Network now has a link to "Closed Caption" on its web site, which then points to:

http://dishnetwork.com/customerServi...n/default.aspx

(Update: on 1/3/2010, I tried this link above again. Dish has changed the page and is now providing links to chats with Closed Caption specialists. It also explains how to find online support about captioning. The information below may thus be obsolete.)


By browsing further, I found the following information about how to set up captions (under the problem area: "Closed Caption does not display at all"), though the embedded links did not transfer. Unfortunately, the instructions for the High Definition set-top boxes look too simplistic since they do not address at all how to customize the advanced captions and actually caution the reader about changing them. The instructions provided earlier for Dish set top boxes would thus appear to be useful still for customizing the advanced captions.


(The following is quoted verbatim from the Dish Network web site and is somewhat confusing at times, like when it directs EVERYONE to consult their TV manual to turn on captions when this is not needed if the captions are provided by the HD set top box.)



First, ensure you are set-up to control and display captions. Consult your TV user’s manual to verify that Closed Captioning is turned-on and adjusted correctly. Click here to view a list of support phone numbers for most TV manufactures, in case you are unable to reference the TV user’s manual.

For Standard Definition (SD) satellite receivers: SD satellite receivers rely on the caption functions in your television. Our SD satellite receivers pass the CC information along to your TV to read. Click here to view a list of Standard Definition (SD) receiver

DISH 111, Solo 301/311, Duo 322, DuoDVR 522/625, DISH 501, DISH Player-DVR 508/510, DISH 1000, 2800, 3000, 3750, 3900/4900, 5000, 6000, JVC IRR

If you are unsure of the model and want to find out, click on the link below. What's my model?

The receiver's model number is located on the lower left corner of the front of the satellite receiver. You can also find this information on the System Info screen. Use any of the following procedures to get to this screen. Press the SYSTEM INFORMATION button of the front panel of the satellite receiver. If not present, remove the Smartcard located behind the door of the front panel. Remember to reinsert the Smartcard once you have the needed information. If no Smart Card or SYSTEM INFORMATION button, power the receiver off from the front panel and press the up or down arrow button. Press MENU on the Remote. Go to System Setup, Installation, and then System Info.

For High Definition (HD) satellite receivers: HD satellite receivers rely on the caption functions built-in your satellite receiver. Click on your model of satellite receiver below to start troubleshooting

Solo ViP® 211 or DISH 411
Go to the Closed Caption Menu by pressing the following remote control button sequence; MENU : 8 -Preferences : 6 - Closed Caption Press 1 for Closed Captions On/Off and select the on option. Once complete select Done.

*Be cautious when adjusting any additional setting within the Closed Caption menu.

DISH 811
Go to the Closed Caption Menu by pressing the following remote control button sequence; MENU : 6 -System Setup : 9 - Closed Caption Press 1 for Closed Caption On/Off. Select the on option. Once complete select Save.

*Be cautious when adjusting any additional setting within the Closed Caption menu.

Duo ViP® 222, DuoDVR ViP® 622 or 722
Go to the Closed Caption Menu by pressing the following remote control button sequence; MENU : 8 -Preferences : 7 - Closed Caption (For Duo ViP® 222: 6 - Closed Caption) Press 1 for Closed Caption On/Off. Select the on option. Once completed select Done.

*Be cautious when adjusting any additional setting within the Closed Caption menu.


Closed Captioning Contact Info, 888-809-1143, Fax 720-514-7660, or closedcaptioning@dishnetwork.com. Written complaints: Marciedes Metzger, Closed Caption Compliance Manager, P.O. Box 9040, Littleton, CO 80120.
post #35 of 38
Cox 8300 HD set box
Thanks so much for helping out with the closed captioning problem.
Neither Cox nor Sony were any help with this.
Pressing the settings button only once and scrolling down to the "Caption on-off" section was the key to the problem.
When pressing the settings button only once, it looks like there are only three choices. Scrolling down gives you the options you need for captioning.
post #36 of 38
Hello, I'm a longtime HTPC'er who's finally able to make the step up to HDTV, thanks to the new Hauppauge Colossus (and more-so the unexpected suicide of my CRT ). I'm only three parts away to completing my new build, assembled using renethx's outstanding HTPC Buyer's Guide. I just got my two Motorola QIP7100s from Verizon FIOS today and after messing with them a bit I found out about the built-in closed captions. This is great news for me, as I've found reliable CC decoding hard to find across the many HTPC PVR options. Now, the boxes do it for me, no matter what I use.

I started looking around the Net and this thread is exactly what I was looking for, despite it's agedness. I was hoping that maybe a fellow 7100 user might have optimized the caption settings, font size, etc., and wouldn't mind sharing them here? I would love to know how to make them look their best. I thank you in advance for any help provided here.
post #37 of 38
Ok, this is a year later... How do I get caption to work on DISH Blockbuster@home? I get caption on regular Dish stations, but not on the streaming ones. How do I get it to work?
post #38 of 38
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ok, this is a year later... How do i get caption to work on dish blockbuster@home? I get caption on regular dish stations, but not on the streaming ones. How do i get it to work?

anybody???
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