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post #211 of 313
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Originally Posted by okiedokey View Post

Wanted to bump this thread, because I'm thinking this is a worthy box that has suffered from some bad word of mouth that may no longer be an issue with current models.

Absolutely, this is one of the better boxes out there. I think the only real knock it's ever had is the little bit of overscan problem.

It was never listed in the "best PQ" category, but that part of it was always more than good enough for a smaller TV.

From what I've seen of the menus and remote, it's designed very, very similarly to my RS Accurian HD tuner, which is really a re-branded Digital Stream, and I was always extremely satisfied with those aspects of it (it doesn't have the PQ on a par with the best HD tuners, like the LG's, Sony's and Samsung's, though).
post #212 of 313
But this thread was the only one I cruised through, and even at that, the ol' eyes periodically glaze over, IYKWIM.

The main fixation in this thread seemed to end up being about the operating temp of the unit, including the possibility of a flame-out. It appears the manufacturer has been listening - something that always inspires confidence - because ISTM that the box wasn't originally Energy Star rated like it is now. Plus, one of the first posters here who gave a very detailed comparison mentioned the small TV-only volume buttons being reversed in order. Unless I forget him correcting himself, they've addressed that too.

The only problem I'm having is that I can't get the remote to work the Input on my TV. That's the one thing that keeps me grabbing for another remote. Once the remote finds a code that will turn the TV off and on, you can't enter the other possible codes. Actually, it just occurred to me that I can make the remote forget that code by holding down the remote's TV power button and hitting Up or Down. So I'll try that and then enter the other possible codes. Maybe that will do it.

Thanks for the extra info. I actually have a Samsung SIR-T451 that's connect by Component to my Infocus 4805. It works well, although it was agonizingly slow even when it was new. Sometime I'll have to compare all three on the PJ screen. Seems I've heard some say that these new little boxes are better than the older tuners like mine. I could see the possibility that a newer chip could outweigh the disadvantage of Composite only connection.
post #213 of 313
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Originally Posted by okiedokey View Post

But this thread was the only one I cruised through, and even at that, the ol' eyes periodically glaze over, IYKWIM.

It was mentioned quite a bit, but probably on some other threads buried somewhere when the unit first came out. After that it was just brought up sporadically.

Apparently it cuts off all or part of the ticker which sometimes appears at the bottom of the screen. But if you don't notice it, then it's not really a problem for you.

Like you said, at least they don't start on fire anymore, and that's really much more important (obviously).
post #214 of 313
My sister sent my Mom a 9550 box, which I installed yesterday. It's a May box, where my own newly purchased 9550 is August. Sure enough, reversed controls on top for the TV's volume.

So the good news is that DigitalStream seems to listen and improve their products. The bad news is that I'm a little concerned for my Mom's sake about the operating temps of her box.

Just to be on the safe side, I did set it to power down in 4 hours...
post #215 of 313
I have a 13 in Sylvania model 6413TG and none of the codes work. Dose anyone know of any working codes?
post #216 of 313
Radio Shack has these reduced in their latest ad to $54.95
post #217 of 313
Can someone please tell me why I cannot get channel 13 it is a local PBS station with the DTX9950. With out this box I can recieve it on my antenna but with the box I can get every station except channel 13. Does anyone have this problem. I am in Flushing,Queens,NY.
post #218 of 313
From the WNET Digital transition web page.

"In addition to a TV set with a digital tuner or a digital converter box, you will also need a dual-band antenna. This type of antenna is necessary because some DTV signals transmit on the VHF band and others transmit on the UHF band. A dual-band antenna is required to help ensure that you receive the entire range of DTV channels. A dual band antenna will be necessary even if you are receiving Thirteen DTV today. If you have only a single-band UHF antenna you may not be able to receive Thirteen DTV after the February switch. The best way to get a dual-band antenna is to ask your electronics retailer for assistance.

Please note: Some viewers may still have trouble receiving Thirteen DTV before February 17, 2009 - even with a dual-antenna and a converter box. This is due to the reduced-power transmitter Thirteen has been using since the destruction of the World Trade Center. If you cannot receive Thirteen DTV, you can watch the non-digital Channel Thirteen on an old-style analog television set, or by using a converter box with an analog pass-through feature, until February 17, 2009, when Thirteen will switch to a high-power DTV transmitter that will reach everyone in the viewing area.
post #219 of 313
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Originally Posted by C54H View Post

Can someone please tell me why I cannot get channel 13 it is a local PBS station with the DTX9950. With out this box I can recieve it on my antenna but with the box I can get every station except channel 13. Does anyone have this problem. I am in Flushing,Queens,NY.

The 9950 has analog pass through. Can you watch it with the box connected when in pass through mode?

FWIW, WNET-DT is currently on UHF channel 61. You *could* try a better UHF antenna if you want to watch it now.
post #220 of 313
Found this forum, when searching about this DTV box's 'problems':

Box gets very, very warm. Modified, by adding thick, stick-on feet. Helped, but when room temps get to 80F+ again, it'll still run rather 'hot'.

Don't like it running 'hot'. Heat is the enemy of electronic components. May end up enhancing the 'venting' at some point.

However, another problem:

Low, volume. Really low. Both on RF and line-out.

Finally, the EPG: Long, program descriptions are not fully displayed. Is this universal amongst all EPGs in these boxes, or is this a DS box problem, only?

I'll contact NHENS and see what they say.

I've since purchased a Philips HDTV, but I still use the DS box for the EPG, as the Philips has no EPG. Ug.
post #221 of 313
Why is the room your CECB is in at "80F+?" Maybe you should turn back the heat.
post #222 of 313
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Originally Posted by CleCakYngMfd View Post

However, another problem:

Low, volume. Really low. Both on RF and line-out.

Finally, the EPG: Long, program descriptions are not fully displayed. Is this universal amongst all EPGs in these boxes, or is this a DS box problem, only?

Have you tried setting the output preference to "RF" or ch3/ch4, then use the line-out connections with it set that way?

I assume you know that most folks run the CECB volume at or near full, and adjust the TV volume to taste.


FWIW, the Zenith DTT901 does not fully display very long EPG descriptions either.
post #223 of 313
Does this box have an automatic recording feature that can turn on while you're not home to start recording your programs?
post #224 of 313
No.
post #225 of 313
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Absolutely, this is one of the better boxes out there. I think the only real knock it's ever had is the little bit of overscan problem.

It was never listed in the "best PQ" category, but that part of it was always more than good enough for a smaller TV.

From what I've seen of the menus and remote, it's designed very, very similarly to my RS Accurian HD tuner, which is really a re-branded Digital Stream, and I was always extremely satisfied with those aspects of it (it doesn't have the PQ on a par with the best HD tuners, like the LG's, Sony's and Samsung's, though).

Interesting that you say that, because I thought the menus of the DS I'd seen posted looked a lot like my Accurian STB.

So is the consensus that the Stream's reception is equal or pretty close to the Zenith/Insignia? I live in a somewhat difficult reception area.

I went to Best Buy today to buy an Insignia because I knew they supposedly had the best tuner, but they were out of stock -- and none are in stock anywhere within 100 miles. No Zeniths around here, either. So it's off to Radio Shack, I guess... If the tuner is good.
post #226 of 313
My experience is that the 9950 tuner matches up with the Zenith's very well. I have a DTT900, DTT901 and DTX9950. All three get the same signals with no discernible difference in strength or reliability.

I am in a strong signal strength area @ 15-20 miles from the transmitter towers with a large roof mounted directional antenna so my circumstance probably does not match yours.

I also installed two 9950s for my parents who live @60 miles out and they work flawlessly there as well. They have an antenna setup similar to mine plus a Winegard 8275 preamplifier. Without the preamp tuning was very dependent on antenna position and weaker stations were prone to drop outs.
post #227 of 313
Thus the reason that most CECB's are comparable to 40 miles. With a pre-amp you could take that to 60 miles. Anyone beyond 60 miles, 1-edge, 2-edge, or tropo will see a major difference between CECB's (see my tests linked below).
post #228 of 313
Somebody said the other day that their Kmart just got in a new load of Zenith's, so if you'd really rather have that tuner, you might want to wait and keep checking them.

As far as the Zenith being the *best* tuner, though, I kind of like the Channel Master a little better. I regard the Zenith as the best, #1, recommended for people not specifically asking for the absolute best in every possible feature, all-around CECB, but I find the CM's tuner more sensitive (along with it having the best PQ over s-video).
post #229 of 313
Well guys, last night I called my Radio Shack in hopes they might have a Zenith stashed somewhere -- you never know -- and the girl who answered said, "Oh yeah, they're all Zeniths. That's all we have."

"Really? They aren't the Digital Stream?"

"Nope, just Zeniths."

I was doubtful, but I ran over there right before they closed.... And of course, they were all Digital Streams.

They did have a tag on the shelf for the Zenith, though, so I guess they carried it not so long ago. The other guy working there told me they had discontinued the Zenith, so that shows what they know.

But I went ahead and bought the DS while I was there. A couple more of our analog stations have gone off the air in just the last couple of weeks, including one that shows our local NBA team, and I didn't want to wait for a Zenith/Insignia. I can't find a Zenith online, and the guy at Best Buy told me yesterday that there are zero Insignias in either the local or the regional warehouse, and he couldn't tell me when they might get more.

I'm actually pretty impressed with the DS box. It gets every channel with no problem -- turns out that the one weak station I was concerned about isn't even a problem at this particular location. I see what Rammitinski is talking about with the resemblance to the old Accurian HDTV box from Radio Shack -- the menus, signal meter, fonts and even the size of the text are all very similar. I never really cared for the appearance of those things on the Accurian, and prefer the look of those items on the Zenith as far as that goes, but that's purely a cosmetic preference. I will say that I think I see a little of the softness the old Accurian had on SD broadcasts, but it's okay for the purpose of viewing SD digital on an old TV. The remote sensor is incredibly sensitive, as someone said -- just point the remote anywhere and the box responds, which is pretty nice and, unfortunately, not the case with the last few pieces of electronics I've bought. The remote controlled the ancient (early 80s?) Sylvania the box is connected to with no problem. I appreciate the analog pass-through on the box because I do have a PBS station and another local station that are still analog, and though it's a little awkward switching back and forth as the box powers down, it's tolerable. Soon I'll replace this TV with one that has composite inputs, so I can just hit the input button on the TV remote and switch it that way. BTW, I've seen the question about why cable is an option in the setup menu on the Digital Stream... Well, mine doesn't have that. They must have removed it somewhere along the line, because I see the space where cable was, but it's now blanked out.

So in summary, I'd still have bought the Zenith if I had a choice, but that's more personal preference for the look of the menus and so forth than anything truly substantial. This box does everything pretty well and the remote is very good. I'm sure it will more than fit the needs of the average American simply looking to pick up these newfangled digital signals.
post #230 of 313
Hey I have a DigitalStream that may be dying. It won't tune in to some channels that other converter boxes are picking up no problem with good signal quality. I tried rescanning - both add and rescan - and some channels don't come in. Any thoughts? Time to exchange?
post #231 of 313
In my opinion, the 9950 would be a decent choice if the picture quality were better.
post #232 of 313
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Originally Posted by Lord_Zath View Post

Hey I have a DigitalStream that may be dying. It won't tune in to some channels that other converter boxes are picking up no problem with good signal quality. I tried rescanning - both add and rescan - and some channels don't come in. Any thoughts? Time to exchange?

Hi LZ,

I believe that the DS has a numeric signal meter. Why not make notes on the levels for a couple of those stations over the course of several days or more. Note the time of day and an average level. I'd do the same for at least one of your "good" channels. Is that dropping, too?

See if they are continuing to get progresssively worse or just bounce around the same general area.

Also, try swapping out the input cable with a better one. While it may not be the problem, a flaky cable or connection is something to rule out.

A few factors complicate pinning down the problem. Weather, etc. can affect the signal levels at any one time. Also, some stations may be changing their antennas and radiated power levels in preparation for the post transition era.

I've been finding it harder to receive a couple of my stations with my Zenith lately. Other stations with transmitters near those are still coming in as always. I think my CECB is fine, but reception has been changing in the case of some stations. Last week, one day we had tropo ducting from my location and I was receiving the Philadelphia stations at 70% or so. While that was going on, those Baltimore stations that I've been lately struggling to pull in were coming in fine. In my case, that's a hint that the issue is signal levels at my antenna.
post #233 of 313
Thanks. I'd have no problem if the same happened on all my converter boxes - I have 4 different brands (Zenith, DigitalStream, Apex, and DTV Pal). The problem is the DS box is the only one that isn't picking up the channels. I will try putting it in a different room - maybe the room wiring or cables are bad, but I did have cable coming through them once w/o a problem.

Good channels have the same picture quality as before. I did think what you said about the broadcasters changing stuff - this same problem happened when I tried to watch CBS Milwaukee a week ago, and was solved by rescanning/adding channels. However, the local OTA thread had no mention of a station configuration change, and my other boxes worked just fine w/CBS Milwaukee at that same time.

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Originally Posted by CasualOTAer View Post

Hi LZ,

I believe that the DS has a numeric signal meter. Why not make notes on the levels for a couple of those stations over the course of several days or more. Note the time of day and an average level. I'd do the same for at least one of your "good" channels. Is that dropping, too?

See if they are continuing to get progresssively worse or just bounce around the same general area.

Also, try swapping out the input cable with a better one. While it may not be the problem, a flaky cable or connection is something to rule out.

A few factors complicate pinning down the problem. Weather, etc. can affect the signal levels at any one time. Also, some stations may be changing their antennas and radiated power levels in preparation for the post transition era.

I've been finding it harder to receive a couple of my stations with my Zenith lately. Other stations with transmitters near those are still coming in as always. I think my CECB is fine, but reception has been changing in the case of some stations. Last week, one day we had tropo ducting from my location and I was receiving the Philadelphia stations at 70% or so. While that was going on, those Baltimore stations that I've been lately struggling to pull in were coming in fine. In my case, that's a hint that the issue is signal levels at my antenna.
post #234 of 313
Does the DTX9950 remember its power status when it looses power?

If you unplug your DTX9950 when it is on and plug it back in does it come back on or do you have to turn it back on?
post #235 of 313
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Originally Posted by ron350 View Post

If you unplug your DTX9950 when it is on and plug it back in does it come back on or do you have to turn it back on?

You have to turn it back on.  It comes back up in standby mode.
post #236 of 313
Dattier thank you for checking.
post #237 of 313
You're welcome, Ron.  It was a simple matter of trying it with my own DTX9950.
post #238 of 313
Hombres, I went to the shack with my coupon about a week or two before 6/12/09 and got what they had (DTX9950). I already had an indoor rabbit ears w/ loop antenna from the shack. I live upper connecticut avenue in DC, there are alot of towers about a mile west of me over on the hill by Fort reno, but not sure what any of them broadcast. I use an SD Sony KV24FS120 TV. I connected the box to the TV with coax. Here's my experience, I am getting more channels and in better picture quality than before (w/ analog). Many channels that didnt come in well or at all I now get. On programs that are HD broadcast I get DVD picture quality. Overall better PQ than with RCN cable service I used to have. The 9950 runs only very warm and is not a concern, since the magnavox box supplied by RCN cable ran way hotter. There is maybe a very small amount of color push on the the 9950, but I can compensate with the color adjustment on the TV. Overall not a bad box. I am satisfied with the remote/functions/interface but I wonder if it can be outdone by others in the PQ department. Can anyone here tell me if a channel master CM 7000 would give any noticable PQ improvement with my Sony SD TV? Otherwise I see no reason to spring for a CM 7000. I have a CM 4040 Antenna on the way to fool around with (basically this looks like a silver sensor style antenna). I want to see how this one does relative to the radio shack antenna.
post #239 of 313
The remote for my DT9950 has gone nuts. It acts like the numeral 7 button is perpetually held down. Channel 7 7 7 7 ... tries to come up when I point the remote at the box. When I look at the remote's transmit light (using a digital camera -a trick I picked up from a service tech) it is continuouslyflashing.

Anyone seen this and know what to do? Is there a hard reset for the remote? DigitalStream had little to offer except for me to send in for a replacement, but I can't find the receipt, and it's out of warranty anyway.
post #240 of 313
What is the difference between the DT9950 and the DT9950F?
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