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post #811 of 3240
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Here is some FANTASTIC! information on Rabbit Ears, from the HDTVprimer.

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The above diagrams are for a “V” shaped dipole (rabbit ears) 40 inches long (80 inches total), adjusted to 45°, and connected directly to 300W ribbon cable without any balun or adapter. If this is all you need, great! Rabbit ears often come with amplifiers or switched “tuning circuits”, and a UHF loop is common. Ribbon cable loss is easier to avoid for VHF than for UHF. For VHF, ribbon cable should not be up against anything metal.

Units with amplifiers

In most cases all the amplifier does is allow the maker to claim a high gain number. As was explained in the section “Antenna Basics”, the amplifier will compensate for loss in the cable but will not improve the antenna. The loss in the four feet of cable that comes with the antenna is probably not significant. The true gain for rabbit ears is what is shown in the net gain graph, not what the maker claims.

Most receivers have a VHF noise figure somewhere in the range 4-10 dB, with 6 dB being typical. If the antenna amplifier has a noise figure below 4 dB then you can assume it is probably quieter than the receiver. In this case, the difference between these two numbers represents an improvement provided by the amplifier, and the amplifier is a good idea. But few indoor amplifiers are that good. If the noise figure is not listed on the packaging then you can assume the amplifier is not quiet enough to be an improvement over the receiver.

1. It may be reasonable to buy an amplified indoor antenna if :
2. the amplifier has a VHF noise figure below 4 dB.
3. you need a longer cable to reach a good reception spot.
4. you want to feed two sets using a splitter.
5. your TV has 300W VHF terminals. The amplifier can overcome high ribbon cable loss where the rules can’t be followed.

Units with tuners

Many indoor antennas have a rotary switch on them that you must set each time you change channels. This switch improves the match between the antenna and the feedline. When effective, it makes the net gain as good as the raw gain. But it is not generally obvious how well it will work. (There is no way to tell before you buy.) You may find you can tune it to your weakest station and forget about it.

Getting the most out of rabbit ears.

If your rabbit ears do not have a tuning switch, you can achieve some tuning by adjusting the length of the elements. The following lengths are for rabbit ears set to 45° and connected directly to a 300W ribbon cable, no amplifier. These are total lengths measured with the elements horizontal. Keep both elements equal in length. If the elements have metal (not plastic) “eye protectors” on the ends, subtract an inch or two from the following lengths.

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13

113” 103” 94” 83” 78” 44” 44” 43.5” 43” 42” 41.5” 41”

Additional gain is achieved by making the elements horizontal, making the antenna a straight dipole. Assuming your living room has space for this and that you can keep the antenna far away from anything metal, the following lengths (subtract an inch or two for metal eye protectors) should be used.

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13

109” 99” 91” 80” 74.5” 84” 81” 78” 75” 72” 69.5” 67”


The straight dipole has nulls to the sides that can eliminate interference.



If for channels 2, 3, and 4 you cannot achieve the lengths recommended above then connecting large metal balls to the ends of the elements will cause a big improvement. These are called “capacitive hats” and will match the antenna as if it is much larger. Balls an inch or more in diameter can be made of loosely crumpled up aluminum foil. Make both balls the same size, then experiment to find the best antenna length.

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/RabbitEars.html
post #812 of 3240
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Here is something I picked up for the tools and tricks box.

RS 20db variable attenuator.

post #813 of 3240
Will it help with my Radio Shack rabbit ears? Looks like something that improves the signal strength.
post #814 of 3240
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Originally Posted by mikeyf View Post

Will it help with my Radio Shack rabbit ears? Looks like something that improves the signal strength.

Other way around... It's the opposite of an amplifier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attenuator_(electronics)

I have a nice two channel amplifier going between my RS UFO and my display and Dish DVR... (OTA on my display looks better in real time than on my Dish DVR.)

http://shop2.frys.com/product/2571201#detailed

post #815 of 3240
The first ClearStream2 reviews are on Amazon. Here is another review of the ClearStream2.

Sigh, I want to know whether I should ditch my Channel Master 4220 (DB2) for one of these.

EscapeVelocity, you know Antennas Direct offers a 90 day return policy. The ClearStream1 is also begging to be tested / reviewed.
post #816 of 3240
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Got em on order Amiga.


I did some work on the front page trying to recover from the lost data.
post #817 of 3240
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Got em on order Amiga.

Thank you. Sorry to nag you, but those pretty little suckers have me so damn curious and I'm clueless if I bought them how to size them up (review).
post #818 of 3240
EV: Have you evaluated the Godar Model 1?

Thank you for your thorough evaluation of the Godar Model 3.
post #819 of 3240
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Not yet, Ive been busy, and this data loss has got me jammed up further.
post #820 of 3240
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Godar HD-3 Twin Crossfire



This one took a little longer than some others to evaluate, being that it is so different. Im sure I dont have all the ins and outs of it yet.

Godar is a small US company that hand crafts their antennas in the USA.


Dimensions

31" x 14" Each antenna grille is 14" square. The base of the unit is appoximately 12" x 5". Sitting flat on a surface it is approximately 3.5" high. The base is a textured black plastic housing with a single gold coax out on one side between the 2 square elements. Very minimalist.

This unit is unlike any other that Ive tested. I found it to be a very good performer. It did however seem to be a bit finicky with placement....meaning I couldnt find one spot where it did reasonably well with most of the channels. However, I may be overstating that a bit.

I tried it in its vertical and horizontal position laid up in the window and it seemed to work equally well, either way. When I laid down flat on the lamp, it didnt work quite as well, but didnt stink either.....say my strong channel 50 went from 8 to a strong 6 on the Zenith signal meter.....closer to the towers this would probably work quite well laid down flat like that...which would add to the mounting options....including a ceiling mount.

I still need to check VHF performance.

I did pick up channel 39 WSAV Savannah Digital 1000kw 65 miles and locked in video at 5. It was fluctuating between 4 and 6 on the meter, but video and audio stayed locked continuous with no break ups.

Ill add comments later after I get some more time with it.

Comes with 6 ft coax.


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Godars unique designed model HD-3

This unique antenna was designed for difficult reception areas.

Receives stable HD/ mid to upper VHF and full UHF signals in the most difficult indoor reception room areas.
This low profile antenna has unlimited placement advantages.Easy placement on top of a cabinet or Home entertainment shelf.Your wife will love this antenna.HD-3 design will work in horizontal or vertical positions.Antenna is desigend to be mounted flat against a wall in back of a TV or cabinet center.Also can be installed in the attic for severe room or basement reception issues.Wide receiving radius results in stable high definition reception across the frequency's.HD-3 is your choice for picture perfect reception anywhere!

Technical:

What a concept!


1,Godar's Model HD-3 receives analog UHF + digital mid to upper VHF HD Ch 6-13,full UHF 14-83 HDTV and Full HD radio signals from 0 to 25 miles from the antenna transmitting towers.Distance is increased at higher elevations with direct line of sight.

2,HD-3 is a unique VHF/UHF /HD dual mesh element broadband high definition antenna.

3,Passive design requiring no electricity for operation.No amplifiers to burn out.This antenna was built to last a life time.

4,Polarity:Horizontal or Vertical plane.Antenna can lay flat or hang upright.

5,Twin crossfire element design eliminates picture freeze-ups and pixel breakups.HD radio signals received at full signal strength to the receiver.
Eliminates station drifting in and out.This antenna raises the bars.

6,HD-3 has excellent performance on quartz lock FM tuner/receivers.Lock's in on the FM station and keeps it locked.If you record off FM,this antenna is a Must!.

7,Typical gain is 3db at 20 miles.

8,This antenna is provided with a standard 6ft RG-59U cable.RG6U in Lengths of 75 ft is recomended for attic installations.HD-3 can run 2 sets using an optional 3 way splitter.

9,Antenna's outside demension measures 31" by 14" and only 1" in height.

Quality handcrafted only made in USA can deliver.

http://www.godarusa.com/id30.html

Performance on the Zenith DTT901 D/A Converter Box

34 - 5
35 - 4
40 - 7
44 - 7
47 - 5
49 - 5
50 - 8


Pic below with RCA ANT108 for relative size comparison.


post #821 of 3240
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Petra SuperPower 32db (Cornet 645A, others)



Here we have the Petra SuperPower which is very similar to several other models including the Cornet 646A which is highly touted by C.Crane a well known long time amateur radio equipment enthusiast retailer.

This antenna is an excellent performer. It has a thick 9" loop. Both the size and thickness of the loop help it to capture and relay UHF signals. The loop has some plastic structure across it, but I dont think that it is anything more than aesthetic...meaning I dont think that it has aditional antenna elements encased within it. The loop is adjustable in altitude but not azimuth. It also has long 44" telescoping Rabbit Ear dipoles that are adjustable in altitude and azimuth. The Rabbit Ears are a bit lacking in fit and finish. One side is loose at the adjustment point, so as to sag down when I pushed the REs out a bit...they kept on falling....also the telescoping aspect seems loosish as well.

The whole unit excepting for the 9" loop is kinda lacking in the fit and finish department, though the plastic pivot point for the elements is pretty snug. The provided coax is permanently attached and kindof short, being about 4 feet long. And the power cord is also permanently attached...with an interior power supply. There is also an input for a 12 volt power input....either car or wall wart.

This is an amplified unit, and like most amplified units, it doesnt do much without its amplifier....which is claimed to be 32db gain. The unit has an on/off knob which also serves as a gain adjustment. There are markings and numbers around the knob which seem to be kinda arbitrary, but perhaps will help with setting then gain from channel to channel. Red LED power on indicator light corresponds to units integrated antenna system.

This unit has an External Amplifier 75ohm input, which according to the instruction sheet, is fed through the amplifier. Pretty neat feature....but I did not test it.

I get the feeling that this antenna was intended for the Mexican market. Is Petra a known brand name of antennas marketed in Mexico. They also offer the Single Classic BowTie and the FM Dipole, and a few others.

I wonder if the Cornet is different in any significant way....higher quality build or amplifier specs or some such.

The large 9" diameter loop seems to be the key to the UHF performance(along with the amp).

Performance test using the Zenith DTT901

34 - 5
35 - 5
40 - 8
44 - 6
47 - 5
49 - 5
50 - 8

Pretty darn good, I was able to lock in all my stations with video in the mid afternoon.

Recommended.







post #822 of 3240
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Godar Model 1




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Trisonic's TS-1603 is a bare-bones "Panasonic-style" rabbit-ear VHF-only antenna. So far, it's the only Trisonic antenna I've found locally; my goal is to get the TS-1581B which appears to be a clone of the RS 15-1862 / 15-1880.
* Rabbit Ear Style
* 5 Section Panasonic Type
* VHF Antenna
* RG-59U Cable with "F" Connector
* Chrome Antenna
* 1 pc Polybag Header

Keep in mind this is not, technically speaking, a UHF antenna. In my local market, all of the DTV stations are currently UHF - though in February 2009, three channels will revert to VHF. FYI, the best performance seemed to be on low-UHF channels.

Here are signal numbers using the Zenith DTT900's simple signal meter. In most cases at my condo location, I can't get a stable picture using an indoor antenna unless I use a big outdoor design like the Channel Master 4201. However, if you are receiving some signal using a paper clip, this antenna might actually offer good performance for a whopping $1.69 (or less).

Listed by RF number, measured signal, and call letters/network.

14 7 KTBW (TBN)
18 7 KCPQ (Fox)
25 7 KMYQ (MyNetwork)
27 7 KBTC (PBS)
31 3 KONG (Ind) (no pic, some signal fluctuation)
32 7 KWPX (Ion)(some signal fluctuation
36 7 KSTW (The CW)(stable!)
38 3 KOMO (ABC) (no pic, wide signal fluctuation)
39 3 KIRO (CBS) (occasional pic, fluctuating signal)
41 5 KCTS (PBS) (wide signal fluctuation)
42 6 KWBF (Daystar)(fluctuating signal)
44 3 KHCV (Shopping)(no pic, signal fluctuation)
48 4 KING (NBC) (occasional pic, wide signal fluctuation)
50 4 KUNS (Univision)(occasional pic, wide signal fluctuation)

The RE elements are average quality, a little on the light side and with a bit of noise as though there's a small loose piece inside one of the elements. The RG59 connecting cable is pretty short (3 feet), the screw-on connector is good quality. I obtained best reception with only two of the five sections pulled out, and the ears placed in a "flat" or "almost flat" position.

The reason I've reviewed this $1.69 VHF-only antenna is that there are many glowing user reviews on Amazon.com by people using the Terk TV1 and Philips MANT-075 REs (units which lack an integrated UHF element) to tune UHF ATSC channels with CECBs. A VHF antenna is generally not going to provide good multipath rejection or maximum signal quality on ATSC UHF channels, but in some cases it apparently can work. Unlike the Terk TV1 and Philips MANT075 which require a 300-ohm to 75-ohm connecting balun this ultra-cheap Trisonic unit terminates in a standard screw-on 75-ohm connector, avoiding possible balun signal loss.

Using a VHF-only RE isn't recommended for most users - the generic Outline UHF Single Bow Tie is more appropriate -but this low-cost Trisonic RE was worth evaluating. If you are in an upper-story condo or apartment with a good view of the transmitters, this $1.69 antenna might give better reception than a paper clip.
post #824 of 3240
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Terk TV-3 and TV-2 in box

post #825 of 3240
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Terk TV-3




This antenna is a pretty good performer for its class....amplified Rabbit Ear and Loop. Its fit and finish are very good. I especially like the thick chromed steel loop....the extra surface area helps with signal transfer if implemented properly. The loop rotates 360 degress and is adjustable in azimuth as well. The loop diameter is 6.5 inches (same as RCA ANT108). 44" telescoping dipoles adjustable 360 degrees and in azimuth. It incorporates a UHF/VHF band combiner/seperator, thus removing FM frequencies. Its claimed top amplification is 40db gain, and in the manual its states...VHF 12db minimum and UHF 6db minimum. The amplifier is switched on and adjusted by the knob on the top of the unit. I also like the units low profile base. It is very stable as well. On the back there is an auxillary input which is switchable between it and the antenna. The coax is permanently attached, and has a slip on connector....which I like(instead of the ubiquitous screw on). Im pretty high on both the Amplified Terk TV-3 and the unamped Terk TV-2 for their categories.

post #826 of 3240
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Terk TV-2



Ther Terk TV-2 is very similar to the Terk TV-3 except lacking the adjustable gain amplifier. The antenna/aux switch is located where the amplifier on/off adjustment knob is located on the Terk TV-3. It performs on par with the other recommended non amplified RE & Loops like the RCA ANT108 and the Radio Shack 1668 Delta.

Both the Terk TV-2 and the Terk TV-3 are going on my recommended and favorites list.

post #827 of 3240
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Radio Shack Color Eagle 100

catalog # 15-1808A



This seems to be the same unit as the Recoton 350 that is in the Discontinued slot on the front page....excepting this has dual 300 ohm spades for VHF and UHF, where the Recoton seems to have 75ohm and 300ohm connections. Mine came with a dual 300ohm VHF/UHF to 75 ohm combiner. Its got brass VHF/FM dipoles and dual aluminum UHF loops. A nice large feedline impedence fine tuning knob, that clicks from position to position in a tight and smooth manner. The whole antenna element assembly pivots on a round cylinder. Nice "suction cup" feet are intact, very stable. Very nice unit.

Color Eagle 100 VHF/UHF/FM Antenna
(150-1808) Features Faxback Doc. # 31391

The Archer Eagle 100 VHF/UHF/FM Indoor Antenna is perfect for improving
your TV's VHF or UHF reception, or your stereo receiver's FM reception.
You can place the antenna on your TV set or mount it on a wall. Other
outstanding features include:

HIGHLY CONDUCTIVE BRASS VHF/FM - extend to 40 inches in length and
DIPHOLE pivot 90 degrees for easy adjustment.

FIVE-POSITION ANTENNA ASSEMBLY - provides free antenna movement, even
if you mount the antenna on a wall.

TWELVE-POSITION FINE-TUNE CONTROL - allows precise tuning to help
eliminate ghosting, graininess in the
picture, and static.

DUAL UHF LOOP ANTENNA - rotates 90 degrees for the best
possible reception.

COLOR-CODED VHF/UHF TWIN LEADS - make your antenna easy to install.

NON-SLIP RUBBER FEET - keep the antenna in place on top of
the TV set or other hard, flat
surface.

Radio Shack Online PDF Manual

http://support.radioshack.com/suppor...oc62/62049.pdf
post #828 of 3240
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Thanks to Talking Rat for digging up those 2 posts in google cache. Im not having much success, but I would be eternally grateful if someone could find the google cache with the Godar HD-3 Twin Crossfire mini review and the Petra SuperPower 32db mini review and the GE Futura Indoor mini review.

Thanks!
post #829 of 3240
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GE Futura Indoor



I got this used and it came with the items in the photo below. Its an amplified unit, with the box measuring 7"x 3.5" and it has a 30" telescoping monopole which is adjustable in azimuth and altitude but is limited by the position of the box on the mount. The amplifier is not adjustable. There is one coax out connector on the back of the unit with a DC in as well. As you can see, it can be be mounted vertical or horizontal on the included clip on mount. The mount is nicely weighted without being over-engineered, made of steel and sturdy plastic.

The performance wasnt anything to write home about. It barely beat out the RCA ANT108 that I used as a benchmark.

Not recommended.

GE Futura Indoor - 8:45 PM

34 - 3
35 - 4
40 - 7
44 - 6
47 - 4
49 - 5
50 - 7

39 - 4 WSAV Savannah 65 miles South 1000kw

RCA ANT108

34 - 3
35 - 3
40 - 6
44 - 6
47 - 3
49 - 5
50 - 6

39 - 5 WSAV Savannah 65 miles South 1000kw locked video





post #830 of 3240
I ran across this link the other day.

http://www.wa5vjb.com/products1.html

The specification for the 400 - 1000 MHz log periodic lists the antenna factor. To convert to gain:

Gain (dBi) = 20 log (f in MHz) - 29.77 - AF

400 18.8 = 3.47 dBi
450 17.7 = 5.59 dBi
500 18.2 = 6.01 dBi
600 19.8 = 5.99 dBi
700 21.2 = 5.93 dBi
800 22.3 = 5.99 dBi
900 23.3 = 6.01 dBi
1000 24.2 = 6.03 dBi
1050 24.7 = 5.95 dBi

Price is $25.

Ron
post #831 of 3240
The UFO by radio shack. funny to find people who like radio shack stuff but this antenna is interesting. How does it change position per station, do you or does it on it's own? how would this work for house in PA tobyhanna or Long Island 14 miles from NY. I also saw this antenna at mono price HDTV Indoor / Outdoor Antenna product #4730 which looks like a Phillips antenna that i have had no luck with any of theirs.
post #832 of 3240
Great article, "Selecting and Siting your TV aerial: Measuring Signal Quality - What's Wrong with Set-Top Aerials". Hot critical analysis including shoot-out results comparing a Silver Sensor with an inexpensive generic outdoor antenna. Opinionated writer but the points are worth considering such as:
Quote:
A set-top aerial on top of a downstairs TV set receives 100 times less signal power than a basic rooftop aerial

Quote:
A booster amplifier is not the correct response to an inadequate aerial system and what has once been lost can never be regained

Hat-tip to an AVS Forum contributor at the Zenith DTT900 thread for this very useful article.
post #833 of 3240
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

The UFO by radio shack. funny to find people who like radio shack stuff but this antenna is interesting. How does it change position per station, do you or does it on it's own? how would this work for house in PA tobyhanna or Long Island 14 miles from NY. I also saw this antenna at mono price HDTV Indoor / Outdoor Antenna product #4730 which looks like a Phillips antenna that i have had no luck with any of theirs.

I've similarly wondered: do users of Rat Shack's UFO (15-1892) have to fiddle with the antenna's remote control when they change channels?
post #834 of 3240
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Regards the UFO...

I would have to change the position to get my alternate PBS channel from 294 degrees, but can get all my other stations from 41 degrees 27 miles and 55 degrees 45 miles with one position. So that makes only 2 positions to set and worry about. Another poster fajitamosaic, also only uses 2 positions, having to move the antenna for one particular station, otherwise using it for everything else at the other position.

Another poster held out the possibility of using a learning remote to control the antenna and the tv/tuner at the same time.

Ive read another review on the UFO which claimed that the UFO was not directional, leading me to believe that this fellow was close to the towers and was recieving good signal off the backside at that range.

That is all I have to say on the matter.
post #835 of 3240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dr1394 View Post

I ran across this link the other day.

http://www.wa5vjb.com/products1.html

The specification for the 400 - 1000 MHz log periodic lists the antenna factor. To convert to gain:

Gain (dBi) = 20 log (f in MHz) - 29.77 - AF

400 18.8 = 3.47 dBi
450 17.7 = 5.59 dBi
500 18.2 = 6.01 dBi
600 19.8 = 5.99 dBi
700 21.2 = 5.93 dBi
800 22.3 = 5.99 dBi
900 23.3 = 6.01 dBi
1000 24.2 = 6.03 dBi
1050 24.7 = 5.95 dBi

Price is $25.

Ron

I think you can do this DIY style, with wire arranged and taped down on top of a piece of cardboard as well.
post #836 of 3240
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

I think you can do this DIY style, with wire arranged on top of a cardboard box as well.

It's just something I saw on another mailing list, and I thought I'd pass it on. The interesting part (at least for me) is that it's obviously designed for EMC measurements (as indicated by the use of antenna factor in the specification). The trick with EMC measurement antennas is that they are supposed to be calibrated. For example, a professional log-periodic like this one

http://www.tucker.com/java/jsp/produ...5968_condN.htm

is outlandishly expensive ($1250) only because it's calibrated.

By using a PC board design, it's a cheap and dirty way to have an antenna that's uniform from one copy to the next. That is, the calibration for one antenna is pretty close for all of the other copies.

So it's kind of a poor man's "reference antenna" for your study here.

Ron
post #837 of 3240
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Thanks for the heads up dr1394! That is one expensive antenna!
post #838 of 3240
Thread Starter 
Special thanks to TalkingRat, who has found most of the lost posts in google cache, where I recovered half a dozen mini reviews, which have been updated on the previous page, including....

Terk TV-3
Terk TV-2
Petra SuperPower 32db (Cornet 645A)
GE Futura Indoor
Godar HD-3
Radio Shack Color Eagle 100

I still have yet to mini review the Godar Model 1.
post #839 of 3240
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Here is wongs updated chart of my Zenith DTT901 testing.....

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The larger 9" loop on the Petra SuperPower 32db seems to be a key in the Petras success....I believe the surface area of the thick loop also helps(as well as the amplifier).

Here is some great information of UHF loops from the HDTVprimer.


Quote:


The 7.5” loop is representative of a large class of indoor antennas built around a loop or something similar. These may include units with amplifiers or switched “tuning circuits”, and frequently VHF rabbit ears are included.
Simple loops

If this is all you need, great! Some simple improvements are possible :
You can add three feet of twin-lead (300 ohm ribbon cable) to it. This will get it away from the body of the TV set and allow you to rotate it. But twin-lead must always be kept one inch from anything metal and must not touch any substantial thing that is plastic.

You can rescale the loop for your weakest channel. Use this formula : dia=4537/(6*N+389) where N is the channel number (14-69). (Plugging 36 into this formula will give you 7.5. Multiply that by 3.141 to get the total wire length.) 12 or 14 gauge copper wire is fine. Remove any thick insulation.
Higher gain is possible with a double-loop (J2 on the gain graphs). However it has a narrower bandwidth. This “figure-8” antenna should look like two tangent circles, one above the other, fed at the bottom. Keep the wires a quarter inch apart at the crossover point. This formula gives the diameter of each circle : dia=4244/(6*N+389) Multiply this by 6.283 to get the total wire length.

Units with amplifiers

In most cases all the amplifier does is allow the maker to claim a high gain number. As was explained in the section “Antenna Basics”, the amplifier will compensate for loss in the cable but will not improve the antenna. The loss in the four feet of cable that comes with the antenna is probably not significant. The true gain for a loop antenna is what is shown in the net gain graph, not what the maker claims.

Most receivers have a UHF noise figure somewhere in the range 3-10 dB, with 5 dB being typical. If the antenna amplifier has a noise figure below 3 dB then you can assume it is probably quieter than the receiver. In this case, the difference between these two numbers represents an improvement provided by the amplifier, and the amplifier is a good idea. But few indoor amplifiers are that good. If the noise figure is not listed on the packaging then you can assume the amplifier is not quiet enough to be an improvement over the receiver.

It may be reasonable to buy an amplified indoor antenna if :

1. the amplifier has a noise figure below 3 dB.
2. you need a longer cable to reach a good reception spot.
3. you want to feed two sets using a splitter.
4. you want to recover the 1 dB loss in the 300W-to-75W balun and the coaxial cable.
5. your TV has 300W UHF terminals. The amplifier can overcome high ribbon cable loss where the rules can’t be followed.

Units with tuners

Many indoor antennas have a rotary switch on them that you must set each time you change channels. This switch improves the match between the antenna and the feedline. When effective, it makes the net gain as good as the raw gain. But in some cases it is mainly for the VHF channels and does a poor job on UHF. (There is no way to tell before you buy.) A UHF-only antenna with a tuner is a good buy. You may find you can tune it to your weakest station and forget about it.

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/Loop.html


The 6.5" loop found on the RCA ANT108 and the Terk TV-3 and many other RE&Loops seems to be a tuned for the center of the old UHF television frequency range....channel 14 to channel 69. However the new range is channel 14 to 50, and this larger 9" loop seems to move the peak tuned channel down significantly below 7.7" which the formula above gives you using the center frequency of channel 32=midpoint between channel 50 and 14.

Using 9" diameter loop, and plugging that into the above formula, the peak tuned channel for a 9" loop is channel 19...or maybe channel 20 if I measured sloppy (outside to outside instead of inside to inside).

Does that make any sense? Is my math correct?
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