Originally Posted by lordcloud
"Film like" and as true to the source as possible, or at least as true as we can surmise, was and is good enough for me. I'm not overly concerned after that. If it looks like crap, but it looks that way because it was faithfully transferred, then I'm happy with it.
Originally Posted by RobertR
Lordcloud has it right. Repairing physical/photochemical damage is the only acceptable work. Going down the path of "I don't like the look of the original film, I'll 'improve' on it" is the wrong mentality and will surely lead to ruin.
I LOVE THIS!!!! I LOVE IT SO MUCH that now I know there are other people out there who CARE about the original art of the original films... I Have been searching and searching to see if it was just me who thought this way, and everyone out there seems not to care and all's they want is sharper that sharp plastic looking fake eye candy.
I can't stand how they are trying to destroy all of these old films by digitally recreating them and turning them into these 'butchered horrors' which most people seem to just not care, or even prefer, which drives me absolutely crazy.
I'm glad that I am not completely alone in how I feel so strongly about wanting to save all of these films in their original state.
Blu-ray could be such a great format because it allows for 24fps presentation... now if they would just transfer the films properly and leave them the way they were originally seen when they came out.
I can not stand when I watch an old movie that was shot on film and it looks like it was shot on a video camera, and the whole look and feel of the film is lost. To me, that is destruction of art, and it angers me to no end, and the fact that most people either 'don't notice' or just plain don't care... or even worse, some are even cheer leading for it. It's beyond disturbing to me. To me, it's like taking The Mona Lisa and taking a digital pic of it and then altering it to the way they think it should look (artificially flawless) and then kicking the original one to the curb with no respect for it. Or going in with lasers and digitally redoing the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel until is is artificially and synthetically flawless and completely sterile.
What they are doing to all of these films is a crime to humanity. I say this, because if these films, the way they were originally meant to be seen, are disrespected like this now, then the originals will be slowly forgotten and eventually lost forever and we will end up only having these artificial fake synthetic creepy clones that are nothing but butchered horrors. Future generations forever more will never be able to see an entire century of incredible film art... they will judge them only on what is available to them... which will be these and maybe even worse and worse as time goes one 'butchered horrors', these fake and extremely false representations.
If they are going to move on from film, then so be it... let them do whatever they want with new movies from here out, but by gosh dammit, leave the films of the past be represented the way they were meant to be represented, and stop trying to destroy all evidence that the art form of actual FILM making ever existed the way it did. So much beautiful art, so much history, just being kicked around with no regard, just to please some people's desire to have everything fit into what the new technology is pushing for. I'm all for moving forward and all of that, but don't try destroying all evidence of what once was.
We need to move forward with respect, but we as a society are not doing that, we are moving forward with utter disrespect and complete disregard.
If we don't fight hard for this, we may find that one day, the technology will no longer allow for any of us to view any old film the way it was meant to be seen... one day we may never be able to allow ourselves to escape into a film... it will just become a faded memory, never to be able to be enjoyed again, by you, me or anyone else forevermore. People of future generations will never know what these films really were, and will never have the luxury of being able to witness even a close representation of them. They will have no idea. This is a sad thought, and it angers me.
The people who yell and scream about wanting nothing but eye candy at any cost, even if it is artificial, I say whatever... let them have it... with the NEW stuff, but leave the old stuff out of it. For those people who are 'grain haters' and hate the whole idea of film and only want images so sharp that they are blurry because the human eye can only see so sharp (like in an eye exam, when you go past the point where it is sharp to where it is blurry again because it is beyond focused) I say to those people have at it with all the new stuff that is shot on digital video, BUT they want it all. they are greedy and selfish and want it all, they want to destroy any evidence that film ever even existed. They have no right to lay claim to films. If they hate films so much, then don't watch things that were shot on film, only watch things that were shot on anything but film.
They are out there working hard with cleaners and sterilizers trying to scrub away any evidence that film ever existed. They are cheer leading the scrubbing away of all the paint out of all the paintings.