Film Reference and Analysis - Page 9

I will add a new category especially for digital shot films....I don't know if that will work or whether people in general would like digital shot films removed from the list but it does present a challenge to what this thread is trying to achieve.

I would prefer though to keep digital shot films away from the list containing 16mm/35mm/70mm shot films. So i will make a digital shot films only section.

People can nominate films shot with digital camera's and these will be placed on the nomination list and when they get two votes they will go on a separate list of digital shot films.....Same rules apply for digital shot films only they will be separated from the film shot ones so as to avoid confusion and to take into account the different look of those films.

I could have just ignored digital shot films but i think it's better to have a separate list just for them.

That's why i have added a new category so that those films which by all intents and purposes fit the thread criteria but were shot using digital camera's can be nominated and placed on the thread but have their own section rather than just putting them among the shot with film stock section.

Does tend to make things a little bit more difficult but it's either that or ignore all digitally shot films which would be a shame.

Hi there

Yes it is a great looking film like image...I actually saw it about ten days ago and it's already on the main list after getting two votes.

It's always good though to get further clarification so your post is welcome.



There is no bottom of the list or top of the list....Films are added to the list in alphabetical order.....If you think Cloverfield retains the cinema look and it's artistic intentions have not been altered for it's Blu Ray debut by excessive DNR or EE or Macroblocking or any other artifacting then you are welcome to back it up with your vote but it's already on this list.

Thank you for mentioning it was shot with digital camera's though and i will now move it to the new list.

I saw the trailer for this it looked very detailed...I have actually visited some of those locations used for the movie....Beautiful scenery.

Added to the Nomination list.

For any newcomers to this thread please read page one and remember you can nominate or add a vote to films already nominated or you can negative any film as long as you give your reasons....Information on the criteria for votes and information on maximum viewing distance from your television or projector is provided on page one for 720p and 1080p resolutions.

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I understand completely what you are saying which is why i have a separate list just for digital shot films.

The only other alternative would have been to ignore digitally shot films completely and that means ignoring an ever growing list. It can do no harm letting people nominate and vote for those films shot digitally and they will simply be placed on another list and thus be separated from those movies shot with actual film. It doesn't detract at all from the main film list which i hope people including yourself will still take part in.

This is a democratic thread though so if people do or don't want digital films included then let your voice be heard by posting here or start a voting poll on it and we'll get some opinions from that. Eveyone's opinions are always welcome and i added several features to the thread already thanks to people making their thoughts heard.

Page one has further details on the criteria for this thread.

The film has been made - Lets reproduce it on Blu Ray.

P.S. - Movies shot on both digital and film stock.....That is a potential headache knowing which list to add them to but if the majority of the film was shot using digital then it's on that list with perhaps a mention that some shots were using 35mm film.

I have added an edge enhancement guide for those who do not know how to spot it......This is an old but excellent guide from an AVS member called Bjoern Roy....Examples in the guide are from DVD but the principal remains the same.

The guide can be found at the top of page 1 on this thread and i will also print it here...http://www.videophile.info/Guide_EE/Page_01.htm

I hope this is of help for those participating in the thread.

The question is how much does it have because it's my understanding that every film has a little and that includes the best looking transfers to Blu Ray....It's excessive DNR that disqualifies a film from this list.

To the person who mentioned compression issues and banding issues....Can you give a timeframe in the movie so this can be checked out....I will look if a specific time can be mentioned and if there is any it can be marked as a negative against the film.

The point is to nitpick...otherwise every single film made would get onto the thread. It's about weeding out the less film like transfers which may have had excessive DNR applied to them or some other issues and that way we can keep the good ones on the thread.

At no point have i said i am giving a negative to I Am Legend...I have asked for some evidence so that i can check it out and others here can check it out and then a conclusion can be reached. Members have the final say and there is disagreement on this one so it's natural to ask for time frame references or more evidence from those seeing these issues.

I mean i nominated I Am Legend for the thread.....So i think it's great BUT if others disagree then we look at it again and form conclusions as you have to be picky and check these things out. If others nominate a film and some think it's great but others think it isn't then we need proof that it's bad as there is a conflict there and what we don't want is members fighting each other over a film.

I sit back and i watch the movie i don't analyze every frame but if there are issues then sometimes they are obvious ones that you see while watching the film. Sometimes though you don't see them so a member can point the issues out and we can all go back and check as that way the thread becomes better.

I didn't think there was DNR or at least excessive DNR applied...You can usually spot that by checking out facial details and backgrounds and i didn't spot excessive use of it here but once again if Patrick thinks there is then he is welcome to give some time examples so it can be checked out....The thread needs evidence when these points are raised. I wouldn't take Bracke's word for anything though as his review of Scary Movie is frankly Scary.

People need to give some time frames when saying there are issues so we can all check and rule out player/monitor issues and see the problem and that way the negative is agreed upon and it's all democratic.

Debate between members over these films is good because the list will be better for it.