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post #751 of 1347
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Originally Posted by Lamprey View Post

Thanks for the replies. Like I said 4k isn't a hude deal, I was just curious. I'm more concerned with the HDMI chaining. Not that I can't afford a new receiver, but just trying to use what I already have.

Thanks again!

Like the current RadianceXS-3D and RadianceXE-3D, when we do a 4kx2k processor, you would use it for all switching and then connect your receiver to one output. So, you would not need a new receiver as we could send it just the audio.
post #752 of 1347
This is probably a stupid question.. but I just want to get some confirmation.
I have a XD, and since I know it is HDMI 1.1 only... so it only output 1.1 and my 1.3 display should be backward compatible with it, right?
Is this also true on the INPUT side? i.e. if my source is 1.3 and feed this in, it should still work, right? (as long as I use LPCM to decode the audio in the source and pass this through to XD)
post #753 of 1347
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

This is probably a stupid question.. but I just want to get some confirmation.
I have a XD, and since I know it is HDMI 1.1 only... so it only output 1.1 and my 1.3 display should be backward compatible with it, right?
Is this also true on the INPUT side? i.e. if my source is 1.3 and feed this in, it should still work, right? (as long as I use LPCM to decode the audio in the source and pass this through to XD)

Yes. I believe all newer HDMI specs are backward compatible with the older ones on the source and display.
post #754 of 1347
You just want to be sure to not enable things like "deep color" on your source devices, which are not a value add anyway because nearly all sources are 8-bit.
post #755 of 1347
It doesn't really matter if Deep Color is on or off... it does nothing when it is turned on if you are sending normal consumer video formats. Deep Color sources (some digital video cameras) have a code embedded in the video that "enables" the Deep Color feature to work. This allows those sources to be played on non-Deep Color video displays without problems. The video display itself never adds any Deep Color information... it has to be in a properly encoded source for Deep Color to work.

But there's really no reason to have Deep Color turned on unless you own one of the few digital cam corders that support it and you play those videos on your display.
On the other hand, turning it on won't do anything to non-Deep Color sources so it's not really much of an issue.

Deep Color is a lot like HDCD... it only comes into play if both the source and "player" (or display) are HDCD (or Deep Color) capable.
post #756 of 1347
Thanks all. Once I got my Oppo, I will start replacing my DVDO with the XD... and the fun begins!
post #757 of 1347
I know the Radiance has excellent support for 2:35 screens, but I am wondering if it is possible to set it up with an anamorphic lens that has as a stretch factor of 1,25x or 1,5x (instead of the normal 1.33x). Can this be done with the Lumagen processors?
post #758 of 1347
Hello Jim,
I was looking at getting a Radiance and was informed by the dealer that they were on backorder till the second week of December.
Is there a new production run planned any time soon?

Thanks
RayJr
post #759 of 1347
NORLL, the only reason a VP is used to stretch in one direction, is that the lens stretches in the other direction. For example, a VP will typically stretch 1.33x vertically, and the lens 1.33x horizontally. Are you suggesting you have a 1.25x or 1.5x lens, and that is why you want the Radiance to stretch to those ratios?
post #760 of 1347
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Originally Posted by amt View Post

NORLL, the only reason a VP is used to stretch in one direction, is that the lens stretches in the other direction. For example, a VP will typically stretch 1.33x vertically, and the lens 1.33x horizontally. Are you suggesting you have a 1.25x or 1.5x lens, and that is why you want the Radiance to stretch to those ratios?

I have a ISCO II 1.33x at the moment and I am using the RadianceXS to do vertical stretch. I am considering getting a 1.50x lens, because my new ht-room is quite small. The only way I can have a large scope screen is using a lens with wider stretch than the lens i currently use. I am not very familiar with the Radiance menu yet, that is why I ask in the forums. Is it possible to use a 1.50x lens with the Radiance?
post #761 of 1347
There is probably a way to stretch more than 1.33x on the Radiance, but the problem is that if you stretch more than 1.33x, you would likely throw source pixels away. Sources that use 2.35:1 A/R use about 812 pixels vertically. Stretching that 1.33x and you get 1080 pixels. If you stretched that anymore, you would be going beyond 1080 pixels, which is obviously not good on a 1920x1080 display.

Considering how expensive those less are, I would consider finding a different projector with better lens throw ratios, or get creative with a first surface mirror and literally make more throw distance for your current projector.
post #762 of 1347
Yes, I am aware of that. I my current setup I have the ISCO in place for all aspects and I am very content with this solution. Moving the lens in and out of the light path is to much of a hassle (and the sleds cost a fortune). For 16:9 content this cuts the horizontal resolution by 33%. For 1.5x stretch one would loose even more. I am considering it, but I haven't decided yet. That is the reason for discussing it here... Still, it would be nice to know if it is at all possible with the Radiance.

If anyone else would like to comment on a Radiance setup with 1.5x lens, please feel free to do so!
post #763 of 1347
I think you can scale the image to pretty much whatever ratio you want. I don't recall the exact steps, but you can define the input "mask" which can be a cropped area of the input resolution. This can then be scaled to an output resolution of something like 1920x1080. So, for a 1.5x vertical stretch, the input mask would have to be just 1920x720 (based on a 1920x1080 source), and then the output resolution of 1920x1080 would effectively stretch the image vertically by 1.5x. So, on a 2.35:1 letter-boxed blu-ray, you would lose 11.3% of the pixels, and on a 1.78:1 source, you would lose 33% of the pixels. Keep in mind that the screen A/R would have to be 2.55:1 to do this. Going to 2.55:1 for all of your sources seems a bit extreme just to get a larger screen. Have you though about simply sitting closer
post #764 of 1347
The Lumagen Radiance (and Vision) support output aspect ratios from 1.1 to 2.5.

The output aspect is selected in the Output Styles Menu. Then the input aspect is selected using the input aspect ratio buttons on the remote.
post #765 of 1347
Production 110111 FW Updates:

XD/XD3D
XE/XE+/XE3D
XS/XS+/XS3D


Production 110111
Bugfix for auto input select not working in some cases.
Bugfix for an update issue in 1016-102111 revisions when using the "force" option that afterwards could pop up unwanted message regarding updating and could make for lengthy power on times.
HDCP error message fix.
post #766 of 1347
When watching channels like Espn and the NFL Network, the bottom and sides of the screen are partially cut off. Its where they show all the scores and all that stuff. I have DirecTV and a Sony VPL-VW70. I have overscan turned off and the lens zoom is set correctly. If I zoom out and make the image smaller, its still cut off. The PJ isn't even projecting that part of the image. Its not doing this when I take the XD out of the loop. So, I was wondering, is there a zoom setting or something I'm missing in the XD? It was factory reset and I haven't touched anything as far as the aspect ratios and masking and all that stuff due to the fact that I'm not familiar with anything other than 1.78:1. Any help/education would be appreciated.

Jeff
post #767 of 1347
Jeff, first check that your firmware is up to date and update it if it's not--firmware updates are on the Lumagen website. If the unit was used, a factory reset ("menu 0999") should clear it out but even better is to wipe the flash configuration clean by entering service mode (press "menu 0910") and then entering "menu 0727". Then turn unit off and back on.
post #768 of 1347
Just a thought: Make sure you haven't accidently hit the right (or is it the up?) arrow button on the remote. This will zoom the image in 5% steps so you'll overscan the image and crop all four sides.
post #769 of 1347
Kelvin,
I'll try fixing that when I get home. Is there a certain mode that I need to be in or certain part of the menu? I mean does hitting the up arrow on the remote just automatically zoom the image at any time? That seems a little silly for a unit this powerful. Also, is there any indicator in the menu that will tell me that I've zoomed in or out from the default? Alot of questions. Hope they made sense.
Jeff
post #770 of 1347
Patrick,
Firmware is up to date and I did the factory reset. Kind of scared to wipe out the flash. What will that do?
post #771 of 1347
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Originally Posted by JVoth View Post

Kelvin,
I'll try fixing that when I get home. Is there a certain mode that I need to be in or certain part of the menu? I mean does hitting the up arrow on the remote just automatically zoom the image at any time? That seems a little silly for a unit this powerful. Also, is there any indicator in the menu that will tell me that I've zoomed in or out from the default? Alot of questions. Hope they made sense.
Jeff

Press the "ok" button in the center of the arrows. This will bring up some basic settings info. Press it three times to go thru all the info. The 2d page tells you aspect setting and whether zoom is on.
post #772 of 1347
If you just press the down arrow a few times until there is no further change, you'll end up at 0% zoom. As Dsinger says you can see the amount of zoom applied in the second screen from 'OK'. Remember that this zoom will be 'remembered' for each memory and each input resolution.
post #773 of 1347
Jeff,

"Any help/education would be appreciated."

Make sure you have input aspect ratio set properly.

If you are still getting areas cut off check Input Sizing.

Menu->Input->Video Setup->Resolution->Size->Aspect Ratio->Crop TopLeft and Crop BotRight.

Shawn
post #774 of 1347
Pressed the down arrow once it worked. Simple fix. Thanks guys and thanks for showing me where to get the info on the menu. This thing has got a lot of options!
post #775 of 1347
Hi. I have a question on 3D for the XD. Since XD is only HDMI 1.1, how can it be upgraded to 3D, which I heard can only be supported in HDMI 1.4 standard??
post #776 of 1347
Lumagen is just that good.

Basically they added 3D processing in their FPGA and added the needed EDID to the unit to tell the source that it supports 3D.

Shawn
post #777 of 1347
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Originally Posted by sfogg View Post

Lumagen is just that good.

Basically they added 3D processing in their FPGA and added the needed EDID to the unit to tell the source that it supports 3D.

Shawn

Thanks! That is certainly good! On my way to get the 3D upgrade!!
post #778 of 1347
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Hi. I have a question on 3D for the XD. Since XD is only HDMI 1.1, how can it be upgraded to 3D, which I heard can only be supported in HDMI 1.4 standard??

I called Lumagen when I got my XD from Spectracal and they quoted me $2400.00 I think. You have to send it to them and they will actually swap out the HDMI boards in the unit. It's cheaper to just buy the Mini. If I read correctly, all the Radiance units have the same video processing capabilities. You're paying for inputs apparently, which makes sense.
post #779 of 1347
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Originally Posted by JVoth View Post

I called Lumagen when I got my XD from Spectracal and they quoted me $2400.00 I think. You have to send it to them and they will actually swap out the HDMI boards in the unit. It's cheaper to just buy the Mini. If I read correctly, all the Radiance units have the same video processing capabilities. You're paying for inputs apparently, which makes sense.

Hi.

There are two upgrades available for the XD:

XD to XD 3D : price is about $US 500, http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=accessories. The upgrade is done by software (3D key).

XD to XE 3D : the upgrade is done by hardware and software (3D key), I don't know the price, it is necessary to call Lumagen or to send an email at : support@lumagen.com

regards
post #780 of 1347
Last time I checked the site, Lumagen was asking $500 for the upgrade to 3d. Since I am not interested in 3D I didn't look at the details.
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