The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 425

Originally Posted by drool6

.......This is a hassle b/c I always have to set my PC mode to the content i'm currently watching.

I hear that the ISFcc modes have the PC settings locked, unless I use ControlCAL to change them. I know the ISFcc modes can be copied from one input to another. So, is it possible to have different ISFcc Pure Cinema modes for different inputs, even though other modes (like pure and performance) will remain the same from input to input unless manually changed?

Originally Posted by guerillaw

I recently purchased a 111fd and am thrilled with all but one aspect. I am watching TV and blu rays, and gaming, in between running the break-in images and everything looks wonderful- except hd basketball. Now sd basketball also looks bad, but it always looks bad. HD sports on my old toshiba LCD (which the Kuro smokes in every other way) looked as good, if not better than what I see now. Dissapointing. the cloe-ups look great, but the ful court shots have an excessive grainy-ness that is distractiing.
I have a comcast cable box hooked up via HDMI sending 1080i (also tried 720p) and I use the settings on the first page of the settings thread.
Is pure cinema somehow hurting things? Is it just a sympton of the tv not being broken in yet? Any sugestions on different settings would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by progprog

In a word....yes. This has been an ongoing discussion for the past few days, so you might find it useful to go back a browse some of those posts. Like you, I have found that there's no one-size-fits-all PC mode, so that's precisely the solution I'd recommend- copy the ISF calibration to other memories/inputs and only vary the PC mode.

Originally Posted by progprog

It's definitely not anything that will change with "break-in." If other channels are looking better, it could very well just be these particular channels. HD channels vary widely in quality.

I would think PC mode might affect the quality of motion on your sports channels, but it wouldn't add a "graininess," as you describe. What's more likely is that the Kuro is just revealing the weaknesses in your Comcast signal. I've noticed that many LCDS have a noise reduction that kind of flattens the colors, for lack of a better description. So, maybe you could try some other AV modes and try tweaking the noise reduction picture options to get a more desireable result.

Originally Posted by jmschnur

How does on use the same source on two different inputs?

Joel

Originally Posted by guerillaw

Sure, bu it is not just channel to channel, it is all basketball games versus all shows or movies. The best example is that on ESPN, sportscenter or close ups during the game look much better than wide shots of the motion. So the quality difference is on the same channel.
I will fool with the different modes tonight and report back. I was hoping to keep the same settings for all sources (I run everything through an AV receiver, so it makes things much easier), but if I must use different settings from different things then I will.

Originally Posted by progprog

I wouldn't do it that way, but others (turbe, for example) have put an HDMI switcher into their system for this purpose. If you really need to have all the PC modes available with your ISF calibration, that'd be the way to go. For me, I'd just use two memories on one input for two different PC modes.

Originally Posted by turbe

Actually, I really didn't use the hdmi switch for Pure Cinema, I wanted to have a set of memories to experiment with... but you could use the additional memories on another Input for PC or another colortemp, something else?..

Originally Posted by guerillaw

Sure, bu it is not just channel to channel, it is all basketball games versus all shows or movies. The best example is that on ESPN, sportscenter or close ups during the game look much better than wide shots of the motion. So the quality difference is on the same channel.
I will fool with the different modes tonight and report back. I was hoping to keep the same settings for all sources (I run everything through an AV receiver, so it makes things much easier), but if I must use different settings from different things then I will.

Originally Posted by progprog

Oops, sorry to have misrepresented your setup. Thanks for clarifying.

Originally Posted by jmschnur

How does on use the same source on two different inputs?

Joel

Originally Posted by cklim55

I can't wait to play a blu-ray disc. I may purchase Wall-E to watch. Everyone says it's a good disc to watch on blu-ray.

Originally Posted by corpfan1

I have a receiver with DUAL HDMI OUTPUTS. Works great. Yamaha RX-V3900.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Does anyone use the Pioneer "Control" jack in the back of the plasmas to allow it to communicate with other Pioneer gear? Have you found it useful?

Finally, does it take a 3.5mm plug or a 2.5 mm plug? (Just wanted to know to finalize my cable pulls before the 151 gets mounted on the wall next week--so far just running 3 HDMI cables and 1 cat6 cable. Haven't decided whether to run a mini-plug cable through there or not.)

Thanks in advance for your help!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

My Yamaha RX-Z7 does this as well--very useful if you have a plasma and a projector. (I wish! )

Originally Posted by dssturbo1

yes, it will output up to DD 5.1 from the internal atsc/qam tuners to your avr. but it will not from input sources such as hdmi.

Originally Posted by guerillaw

I recently purchased a 111fd and am thrilled with all but one aspect. I am watching TV and blu rays, and gaming, in between running the break-in images and everything looks wonderful- except hd basketball. Now sd basketball also looks bad, but it always looks bad. HD sports on my old toshiba LCD (which the Kuro smokes in every other way) looked as good, if not better than what I see now. Dissapointing. the cloe-ups look great, but the ful court shots have an excessive grainy-ness that is distractiing.
I have a comcast cable box hooked up via HDMI sending 1080i (also tried 720p) and I use the settings on the first page of the settings thread.
Is pure cinema somehow hurting things? Is it just a sympton of the tv not being broken in yet? Any sugestions on different settings would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by nuraman00

I have a Pro-111FD, which I bought in November.

Just today, when I turned on the TV, I heard a repeated clicking noise. I didn't notice any performance issues.

When I turned it off, it went away. It came back when I turned it on.

Any suggestions?

I'll probably call Pioneer in the morning.

Originally Posted by progprog

Does it come from the speakers or from the electronics? I know the fan can click sometimes when it switches on/off.

Originally Posted by nuraman00

The electronics.

It could be the fan.

Anything I can do to make it stop?

Originally Posted by progprog

I hear mine periodically, but I've kind of tuned it out. It's not frequent or otherwise intrusive. Does yours seem to occur too often? To answer your question, I don't know how it could be made quieter or stopped completely. I suppose if you really couldn't stand it, you could try to set up an external cooling option behind the panel that keeps the fans from ever coming on.

Originally Posted by Lorien

hey

got two little issues i am wondering about

1. is the plasma supposed to give a little hiss? it makes a noise which at night can be annoying when watching a movie on low volume

2. the IR box is going crazy. any way to solve this?

thanks
lorien

Originally Posted by nuraman00

Today was the first time I've noticed it, I don't think it's happened before.

The clicking occurs 3-4 times a second.

Originally Posted by progprog

Well, the 9G Kuros in general will have better black levels than any other TV (at least any I've seen). In any content with black masking bars, many of us particularly love the way those bars just disappear in a darkened room. On any other TV I've seen, there is still enough light in those bars, as well as the black portions of some scenes, that they kind of "glow." You don't get that on these TVs.

Originally Posted by progprog

No, that's not the fan click I'm talking about. I'd call Pioneer service tomorrow.

Originally Posted by nuraman00

Thanks.

Why is the TV mad at me? I thought I treated it so nicely. Hopefully it turns into nothing tomorrow.