The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 426

Originally Posted by progprog

Do you mean the infamous buzz? That's similar to the sound a flourescent light can make.

What do you mean by "the IR box is going crazy?" What's an IR box?

Originally Posted by Lorien

yes that sound. and its starting to REALLY piss me off. my living room is very quiet so i hear everything. i already have the annoying sound of the Dvix fan..

please tell me there is something to do here.

as to the IR box.. i am talking about a Xantech 29901 IR Receiver (yeah its a small box...lol)
http://www.xantech.com/Infrared/Infr...RTRcvrs/29110/

Now i think i read that Plasma and these IRs dont like each other. but anything to do here?

but wow that sound is annoying me

Originally Posted by progprog

The one thing that seems to help the most is switching the TV to Power Mode 2. Give that a try and see if it helps.

Yes, I've heard that about plasmas as well, though I never experienced it with any of mine. It seems like the obvious solution would be to move the box further away from the TV. I realize that this may require longer cables running to your components, but if that receiver/repeater is vulnerable to interference, that may be necessary. Just curious- what components do you use the IR repeater for? Is your equipment stack hidden or far away from the TV?

Originally Posted by progprog

The one thing that seems to help the most is switching the TV to Power Mode 2. Give that a try and see if it helps.

Yes, I've heard that about plasmas as well, though I never experienced it with any of mine. It seems like the obvious solution would be to move the box further away from the TV. I realize that this may require longer cables running to your components, but if that receiver/repeater is vulnerable to interference, that may be necessary. Just curious- what components do you use the IR repeater for? Is your equipment stack hidden or far away from the TV?

PS: One more thought on you IR repeater. The Kuro has an IR repeater built in. Maybe you could locate the Xantech unit much further away and still be able to "point" your remote at the TV by running a blaster from the Kuro to the Xantech. I haven't actually tried that to check the function of the Kuro's IR repeater jack....but maybe?

Originally Posted by Lorien

ok just had a look at the power settings
first, its off due to the whole break-in process per D-Nice's specs
and looking at mode 1 and 2.. they will effect the picture no?

as off is defined in the manual as "Provides normally bright pictures" which means the other two effect the PQ. am i wrong?

edit: i just called Pioneer UK. and the tech person said very comfortably that all their TVs make a noise and that is how it is. i guess ill have to live with it

Originally Posted by progprog

Forget about all that precision with the break-in settings. It really doesn't matter. Please do try Power Mode 2 and see if it helps. You don't have to live with it, no matter what Pioneer says.

Most people see absolutely no difference (in anything) with Power Mode 1, while some see anywhere from a slight loss of brightness to no difference with Power Mode 2. But for many, Mode 2 decreases the buzz to the point where you can no longer hear it from your seating position. It won't hurt anything to just try it. I've experienced that annoying buzz and you should not just accept it and let it diminish your enjoyment of such a great TV.

Originally Posted by Lorien

OK cool. i will try right after the break-in later this week. got maybe 2 days to go. yeah!!!!

Originally Posted by tigerfan33

Had my 151 calibrated by Jeff (umr) yesterday. All I can say is WOW!!!!
I think I said that word at least 10-15 times the three hours Jeff was here. Jeff did my Sammy 650 last year so I know how professional and what a friendly guy he is. I still have the 650 (which has a awesome picture btw) but after he did his magic on my 151 he took my hd to another level. I had been using the PURE mode before he arrived. I can tell you that out of the box this TV is the best I had ever seen. When Jeff got through with it he made it better!!!
I had him calibrate ISF day only because unlike some, I never watch TV with no light. I had 32fl. before calibration and now it is 40fl. That made a difference. The colors pop like never before and with the extra brightness, the blacks (believe it not) are so much blacker!!
I asked him to give me advice on the PureCinema. He said the ONLY gripe he has with this set (like others have posted, he has a 151 also along with a pretty decent fp.) is that the PC does not work right. It does cause motion artifacts on BR and cable or satellite. He turned PC off as he has his and will advise others to do the same.
Oh yea. I have a Sony HT-CT100 sound system. It is only a bar and sub. He made a few tweaks on it and I have surround sound now.lol
Bottom line here is. If you want to get the best out of your HT gear there is no one better than Jeff to get the maximum benefit.

Originally Posted by asiandude

I have a quick question to ask of all you 'Elite' follks...
When I am wathcing cable (no cable box) and its on a unscrambled HD signal (eg NBC). The menu bar at the top of the screen (that shows the channel number and time) pops up on and off randomly...maybe once every 30 secs or so...
What's up with that?
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by jmschnur

Something in your cable to tv is resetting the connection every now and then-probably on the cable side.

Joel

Originally Posted by asiandude

Thanks Joel

But the Pioneer is the only TV in the house that is doing that (and all are fed from the same feed)

Originally Posted by asiandude

I have a quick question to ask of all you 'Elite' follks...
When I am wathcing cable (no cable box) and its on a unscrambled HD signal (eg NBC). The menu bar at the top of the screen (that shows the channel number and time) pops up on and off randomly...maybe once every 30 secs or so...
What's up with that?
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by tvshopper

Okay, I finally pulled the trigger and ordered my PRO-151FD. I cannot wait to get this baby and get it installed. I have to admit a bit of intrepidation with the installation, break in, etc. but am overall truly excited to own such an excellent piece of hardware. I have read tons of posts out here and have gleened the following:

Regarding break-in; three trains of thought.

1. Use D-Nice's procedure ONLY by setting the TV hot and running the slides for 150 hours. This is the only way to consistently burn the phosphors off in a consistent way. OR;

2. Nah, don't worry about that. Just watch normal stuff taking care to not view any static images (including tickers, pillar boxes, logos, etc.) during a reasonable break-in period.

3. Do both. Watch the TV but when you're not watching it, set it up to do D-Nice's procedure. However, do NOT use D-Nice's settings to watch normal content.

Regarding inspection upon delivery.

1. Inspect carton for signs of damage or mistreatment.
2. Open the carton and inspect the screen with a bright flashlight for cracks.
3. Check the bezel for proper mounting.
4. Anything else? May not be able to power it up as things won't be ready for it just yet (i.e. wall mount, etc.).

Installing.

1. Carefully select the mounting position of the TV from a viewing perspective. Not too high!
2. Handle the TV only with the handles on the back.
3. Mount the brackets on the TV carefully. It says in the manual to lay the TV on its screen on a blanket on a table or floor. This gives me the creeps! Is that safe and ok?
4. Ideas for running the cables? What cables do I need? I am thinking that two HDMIs (DirecTV HD-DVR and Blu Ray (DVD right now)) and the power cord is it. Power cord in the wall? Or no way?

I appreciate any and all advice, suggestions, etc. Counting the days until delivery.

Originally Posted by jmschnur

Disconnect the other feeds and try the pioneer straight. If that helps work from there.

Joel

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

All:

Quick question for those of you who wall-mounted their Kuro with the Sanus articulating mount.

What sized bolts did you use to screw into the back of the television?

Did you have any problems with breaking of the lag bolts. If so, what type did you replace them with?

Were you able to attach the mount to the Kuro while it was still standing up, or did you have to lay the Kuro face down to screw it on (I'd really rather avoid this).

I'm also installing a power bridge with some 12/2 Romex. The Romex will be run down parallel to and next to the cable RG6 cable in the wall. Given that the Romex is functioning as an unshielded extension cord, will there be any EMI with the cable signal?

Any hints, tips you care to pass along?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

All:

Quick question for those of you who wall-mounted their Kuro with the Sanus articulating mount.

What sized bolts did you use to screw into the back of the television?

Did you have any problems with breaking of the lag bolts. If so, what type did you replace them with?

Were you able to attach the mount to the Kuro while it was still standing up, or did you have to lay the Kuro face down to screw it on (I'd really rather avoid this).

I'm also installing a power bridge with some 12/2 Romex. The Romex will be run down parallel to and next to the cable RG6 cable in the wall. Given that the Romex is functioning as an unshielded extension cord, will there be any EMI with the cable signal?

Any hints, tips you care to pass along?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Originally Posted by guerillaw

I recently purchased a 111fd and am thrilled with all but one aspect. I am watching TV and blu rays, and gaming, in between running the break-in images and everything looks wonderful- except hd basketball. Now sd basketball also looks bad, but it always looks bad. HD sports on my old toshiba LCD (which the Kuro smokes in every other way) looked as good, if not better than what I see now. Dissapointing. the cloe-ups look great, but the ful court shots have an excessive grainy-ness that is distractiing.
I have a comcast cable box hooked up via HDMI sending 1080i (also tried 720p) and I use the settings on the first page of the settings thread.
Is pure cinema somehow hurting things? Is it just a sympton of the tv not being broken in yet? Any sugestions on different settings would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by texasveteran

I don't remember the actual screw size, but it was the next to the largest in the bag of screws, nuts, washers and bolts. They have short and long versions of this size screw in the bag. I used the short version.

Originally Posted by texasveteran

I attached the mount while it was in the styrofoam cradle. If some of the styrofoam got in the way, I'd break off whatever piece was in the way. It worked really well.

Originally Posted by Nickff

I laid my 141 on the floor and attached everything. Didn't (and hasn't) caused a problem.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

Thanks--I'll pretrial those screws.



My 151 is currently breaking-in on the stand. I was going to attach the bracket to the back while it's on the stand (supporting the bracket with a milk crate to keep the stand from tipping--I'm concerned; however, that if I don't support it adequately, this is just going to put a lot of stress on the panel--since the bracket is 60 pounds)



That's good to hear--what did you lay your panel face down on? I've read the bezel scratches very, very easily. I was thinking of putting down a down comforter topped with a bamboo sheet--softest sheet in the house.

Did either of you have trouble with the included lag bolts--various reports say the bolts can shear off.

Found this on-line review of the Sanus VMDD26 with some good tips--therefore, I will be installing the gang plates and Powerbridge below the bracket instead of behind.

Any comments on the PowerBridge install folks?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by asiandude

I will try this tonight...and if that takes care of it...then the Pioneer Tuner is probably less sensative than the Sony it replaced.
Maybe a in-line amp would help then.

Thanks for the tip Joel