The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 434

Originally Posted by auburn82

Yesterday, I had the great pleasure of having Jeff Meier (UMR) in my home to calibrate my PRO-150FD, PRO-151FD and two surround systems. First, I want to thank Jeff for the way he willing to answer questions that I am sure he is asked every day, but he finds a way to answer them in a way that made me feel like it was the first time he had ever been asked. It was a great experience to have him calibrate my equipment and I could not be more pleased with the results. Since he had to do two systems, he was at my house all day. Even my wife has commented on the improvement of both the video and audio today. The picture on both plasmas looks literally like it is 3D. I know now that I have never previously seen a television that has been set up the way it is supposed to be and I also know that I will never own another television that Jeff has not calibrated. As good as the video now is, I believe the audio is just as good. Jeff took my audio that I set up using the
Audyssey in my Denon 4308 and 5308 and he turned it off and set it up his self and my audio is literally 1000% better. He also found several settings in my audio that had my systems unable to perform as they are capable. My sound systems now sound unbelievable. I think the audio change may even be more dramatic than the video and the change in the quality of the video is unbelievable.

I want to again thank Jeff the his professionalism and I want to recommend him to anyone wanting to calibrate their system. I also want to stop anyone from making the mistake of perfecting your video, but ignoring your audio. Let Jeff do both, you will be glad you did and you can thank me later.

Originally Posted by James W. Johnson

martgonman, nobody here can really give you advice , she is your child. Just try and teach her to stay away from it. Try and get some kind of reward system going or something.

Originally Posted by tigerfan33

I forgot to add something on my calibration report the other day. I asked Jeff how often you need to get your 151 calibrated. I will not reveal the answer but I was pleasently surprised by his answer.

Originally Posted by hd_newbie

I would not buy BD-05 when I have a PS3. I believe you would be frustrated with the loading speeds after PS03.

If you want a dedicated player, I would say wait for Oppo BD-83. ...

Originally Posted by Sonnydigs

Hi Roman,
Since it has been brought up again...
If it does take the cloth and distilled water can you use a soft terry cloth towel to blot dry???
Thanks, just curious....
Sonny

Originally Posted by ddgtr

If I'm 2 years old, the most rewarding thing in the world would be to get my sticky little palms on that brand spanking new Kuro that dad just got...

All joking aside, 2 year olds do pretty much what they want. I have one at home and her greatest pleasure is to poke at my speaker cones with her little fingers . Go figure... All the cool toys, books and whatever gadgets kids get automatically become obsolete when she gets close to the speakers... I am fortunate enough to have a separate room for my gear. Daddy 1 - Baby 0

I do not have a clue as to what one actually can do to stop a 2 year old from slapping a Kuro which by the way has no chance of winning this one.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by STILESP113

Hey Forum,

I got a curious question for you...

I bought the Pioneer 111FD about 3 days ago from my local Best Buy dealer:

How do I know this is a brand new product and not a just a refurbished return? Out of box it came with no stickers on it, i just didnt know if there was a way to see if it was just a refurbished return. MFD: AUG 2008

Originally Posted by tigerfan33

I forgot to add something on my calibration report the other day. I asked Jeff how often you need to get your 151 calibrated. I will not reveal the answer but I was pleasently surprised by his answer.

Originally Posted by leftkidney

so I am someone who takes care of my TV - I make sure that I dont have static images on screen for long periods of time - but I can notice burn-in in many spots on the screen from the HUD from video games and other things - which I never play games for more than 2 hours strait and every 20-30 min I pause it to move around and get something or whatever and the image is off screen for that time so it isnt burning in at all

I can see HISTORY.COM and somewhat part of the bright yellow H and red HD as well from History channel HD in the righr corner of the screen - I see this when bright images are on screen most of the time

again I am very careful about this kinda thing I had a CRT before and was worried about this then so I have been taking measures to avoid this for at least 8 years so far and now I got my 111 and I still do the same things to avoid burn-in and every single day I run the video pattern before I turn off the TV - also after I watch non-full screen content that has letterboxes or pillar bars I run the break-in slides for a couple of hours and sometimes over night

I am happy with this TV because it is the best there is (for under like $25,000 for a studio monitor or something) and I like seeing a great picture when ever I can - but like i said before I will never buy a Plasma again (maybe this wont be a problem since they might stop making them) it is just a destructive means of producing an image, that is to say that it creates an image at the cost of slowly dimming over time and leaving residue behind to cause the plasma cells to get darker over time resulting in the same kinda problems that CRT's had with shifting colors and needing to be adjusted to maintain accuracy over time

people say that these Pioneers are harder to burn-in than others, and if thats the case then others must burn-in all the time

ya I have 20/10 vision and can read every line on the eye chart except the last one (really I can do this, the doctors thought I memorized it and got another chart to prove it - and I did it) and I can see things that normal people cant see, I am very observant of my surroundings I was trained like this by my father since I was a kid who worked for the CIA (until 2005 when he died) - he thought me to see things that other people dont see - like when I walk into a room I notice the light switches and plugs as well as the type of screws needed to fasten them on - I see things that arent seen, that is to say that I see the light switch and the screws but I also see the wires behind it in my mind - if I see a lamp it is not just a lamp, I see the metal tube going through the middle of it and the nuts and washers used to hold it together and so on

so yea I see things that most people will never see or even care to see, but it has become a problem for me since now I see things with my TV that other people cant see until I describe it in detail how to see it - like the dirty lines I see on the screen when the picture pans up and down - NOT side to side that looks fine it is only up and down - read my other posts to see what I am talking about

Originally Posted by STILESP113

^^^^That what i figured..everything came in original packaging. The only thing i noticed this morning was this green sticker next to the MFD on the outside of the box. I dunno what that means, maybe just a special delivery i dunno. The manual and everything came in the plastic bag with packaging tape over it like my 5020 came brand new before i sold it to my rents. No scratches on the bezel, no wear on the screen, speakers came in the box it was supposed to with all screws and the screen wiper was in its original packaging. I was just concerned cuz some people have had this issue.

Originally Posted by ncfoster

I started a thread about how to protect my then theoretical plasma from a baby, and I was mocked mercilessly. So, I appreciate your question.

My baby girl is now 19 months old, and my plasma is mounted on one of those stands that has a mount built into the back. I need to raise the screen about an inch in order to get my center channel speaker under the screen. However, I do believe that this setup is a good one.

I am not in any way fooled into thinking that it is foolproof. She has reached for the screen a couple of times. I think with nothing in the way, she can only barely reach the bottom edge of the screen. Once the center channel speaker is there, I think it will help, but only in the middle, of course. There are still gaps on the sides where she can get pretty close to the screen, but she doesn't do that too much.

While I am still quite worried that she will do something unspeakable to the screen, I now am now most afraid that this damage will come in the form of something being thrown at the screen, rather than her touching it. We shall see. My fingers are perpetually crossed. I am only hope that her appreciation of Yo Gabba Gabba in HD is coupled with some understanding that the TV can be broken.

Originally Posted by leftkidney

so I am someone who takes care of my TV - I make sure that I dont have static images on screen for long periods of time - but I can notice burn-in in many spots on the screen from the HUD from video games and other things - which I never play games for more than 2 hours strait and every 20-30 min I pause it to move around and get something or whatever and the image is off screen for that time so it isnt burning in at all

I can see HISTORY.COM and somewhat part of the bright yellow H and red HD as well from History channel HD in the righr corner of the screen - I see this when bright images are on screen most of the time

again I am very careful about this kinda thing I had a CRT before and was worried about this then so I have been taking measures to avoid this for at least 8 years so far and now I got my 111 and I still do the same things to avoid burn-in and every single day I run the video pattern before I turn off the TV - also after I watch non-full screen content that has letterboxes or pillar bars I run the break-in slides for a couple of hours and sometimes over night

I am happy with this TV because it is the best there is (for under like $25,000 for a studio monitor or something) and I like seeing a great picture when ever I can - but like i said before I will never buy a Plasma again (maybe this wont be a problem since they might stop making them) it is just a destructive means of producing an image, that is to say that it creates an image at the cost of slowly dimming over time and leaving residue behind to cause the plasma cells to get darker over time resulting in the same kinda problems that CRT's had with shifting colors and needing to be adjusted to maintain accuracy over time

people say that these Pioneers are harder to burn-in than others, and if thats the case then others must burn-in all the time

ya I have 20/10 vision and can read every line on the eye chart except the last one (really I can do this, the doctors thought I memorized it and got another chart to prove it - and I did it) and I can see things that normal people cant see, I am very observant of my surroundings I was trained like this by my father since I was a kid who worked for the CIA (until 2005 when he died) - he thought me to see things that other people dont see - like when I walk into a room I notice the light switches and plugs as well as the type of screws needed to fasten them on - I see things that arent seen, that is to say that I see the light switch and the screws but I also see the wires behind it in my mind - if I see a lamp it is not just a lamp, I see the metal tube going through the middle of it and the nuts and washers used to hold it together and so on
so yea I see things that most people will never see or even care to see, but it has become a problem for me since now I see things with my TV that other people cant see until I describe it in detail how to see it - like the dirty lines I see on the screen when the picture pans up and down - NOT side to side that looks fine it is only up and down - read my other posts to see what I am talking about

Originally Posted by tigerfan33

I forgot to add something on my calibration report the other day. I asked Jeff how often you need to get your 151 calibrated. I will not reveal the answer but I was pleasently surprised by his answer.

Originally Posted by ddgtr

And you cannot "reveal the answer" beeeecaaauuuse...........??

If it's just me thinking like this, please accept my sincere apologies! But why the heck do you come on this thread and say things like "I know something good but I won't tell you"???

I just don't get it...

Originally Posted by paul051966

Sorry if this issue has been discussed previously, but I just got my 111FD from BB and started the 150 hr break in last night using a thumbdrive. This morning, the TV was powered off and will not power back on. It is hooked up to a surge protector. I tried to plug it into a different outlet and still no luck. Any theories about what the heck happened while I wait for BB to open?

Thanks

Originally Posted by paul051966

Sorry if this issue has been discussed previously, but I just got my 111FD from BB and started the 150 hr break in last night using a thumbdrive. This morning, the TV was powered off and will not power back on. It is hooked up to a surge protector. I tried to plug it into a different outlet and still no luck. Any theories about what the heck happened while I wait for BB to open?




Thanks

Originally Posted by paul051966

Sorry if this issue has been discussed previously, but I just got my 111FD from BB and started the 150 hr break in last night using a thumbdrive. This morning, the TV was powered off and will not power back on. It is hooked up to a surge protector. I tried to plug it into a different outlet and still no luck. Any theories about what the heck happened while I wait for BB to open?

Thanks

Originally Posted by leftkidney

dude, NO its not that - its like it is dirty or something like that - read the post again, I explain how to see it - and its not from the source at all and its not artifacts from video processing - and when using my computer I can see it all the time

Originally Posted by paul051966

Thanks, I tried the main power button on the back, it will not power on.

Originally Posted by paul051966

Called Pioneer, they said probably a power supply problem, and will have to call a local service tech, more waiting Thanks all.

Originally Posted by paul051966

Called Pioneer, they said probably a power supply problem, and will have to call a local service tech, more waiting Thanks all.

Originally Posted by dross333

I would return it for another.

Originally Posted by texasveteran

Yeah, I wouldn't even tell BB that you contacted Pioneer. They'll swap it out for you.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

1+ I'd exchange it before waiting for the tech.

However, you might try plugging it back directly into the outlet this morning, rechecking the main power button (and making sure the outlet works).

The reason why I say this is: when I first got the 151, I had it running the break-in while connected to a power conditioner. As the slide show was running, I started pulling the plastic protective covering off of the power conditioner screen and jostled the box. Suddenly, the television shut off. The power conditioner screen was still powered, but the TV would not respond to the remote. I thought I'd really blown it.

However, I just turned off the power conditioner and unplugged everything including the thumb drive. I reset the circuit breaker on the power conditioner. I waited a few minutes, connected everything back up again, and everything has worked normally since during the 150 hours of break-in. No problems turning on and off, using, etc.

The nearest thing I can figure is that I have tons of static in the basement right now, given our weather. I think while messing around I may have inavertently either pulled out the power cord of the conditioner slightly and/or introduced static into the system. If it wasn't that, I can't explain it (but have had similar weird experiences while working with computers over the last couple of decades--ie, blamed thing doesn't work, you turn it off, wait, and reboot and voila! )

In any event, you might want to give things one more try before lugging the thing back. I wish you the best of luck, and hope things get fixed quickly.

Originally Posted by hd_newbie

I know, this is not the place, but thought I would go ahead and share. I just read that the upcoming Sony XBR9's would not feature LED backlight. In stead they are turning back to old fluorescent backlit technology.

I found this development interesting especially after Pioneer's withdrawal. Whatever the technology is, it seems some players are reverting back to cheaper and older ways while others are leaving the market completely to survive in these tough times. Looks like display technology is really taking a hit from this recession.

I was thinking next years XBRs could top this year's Kuros. Apparently this will no longer be the case.

Originally Posted by paul051966

I'll try a direct connect into the wall when I get home from work. Good advice about calling BB first and exchanging. BTW.. Since my 111 is in my bedroom, I hung a dark towel over the screen so I could sleep avoiding all those colors during the break in, do you think that may have contributed? Maybe trapping the heat and burned out the mother board?