The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 511

Originally Posted by progprog

Oppo DV-983H or BDP-83.

Originally Posted by SFO_GUY

First I would like to say thank you to everybody for the great information on this forum.
So finally after saving for years for my dream HD system, I finally threw down and bought the 151 and SC07. To my dismay I am able to hear the dreaded 151 buzzing from my seating position which is 17 feet away so from reading the information here, that either means:-
1) I am in the minority and have supersonic audiophile hearing?
2) Just unlucky and got a defective set?
I'm still within my 15 day return window, so my question to this group is:-
1) Has any other supersonic audiophile had any success with returning a buzzer set and received a satisfactory resolution with a replacement i.e. is it worth going through the return process or should I just cut my losses and consider an alternative manufacturer if I can't live with this.
2) Does anyone have any recommendation on the next best set for a replacement?

Many thanks,

Originally Posted by mopar426

Yes, ADVANCED is were its worse and that makes total sence. In my technical terms "OTA eggs are way too scrambled". I usually have the best performance on SMOOTH or OFF.

For the time being its important as I'm testing out the Oppo BDP-83 and would like to see if truly, what the Oppo says its doing, is actually being done. With that I'm finding myself switching my HDMI to PC and back alot.

Just like trying to see my DENON AVR-3805 menu on the Kuro. I can feed the AVR display "out" to AV "in" but the 111 only does PIP with the ANT IN and any other source. I have a way to do PIP with my AVR menu on the left and the Blu-ray picture (or any other) on the right but have yet to purchase the equipment to modulate the signal going to my ATN IN. Fun stuff. I do belive it will work tho and yes, this is important to me too.

mopar

Originally Posted by JlgLaw

Maybe someone with more info can clarify this, but I just got off the phone with Pioneer (Parts) seeking to obtain the latest firmware for the 111. They took my order, but informed me it would be several weeks before the USB would ship because they (Parts) had recently gotten notice that a "bug" was found in the last firmware update and they should have a fix within a couple of weeks. They couldn't tell me anything about the "bug," but said they are working on it.

If this has already been noted somewhere, or if it is BS (which is always possible when dealing at that level), my apologies, but I figured I'd pass it along.

Jim

Originally Posted by SFO_GUY

Thank you Roman - Sorry for posting in the wrong forum

Originally Posted by jmschnur

Unplugging for 10 minutes or so it should help-perhaps it is locked in a retailer mode.

Joel

Originally Posted by expresso712

hi - i finally tried to reset this TV - its a Pro FHD1 pioneer
and it was unplugged for over 30 mins - but it didnt reset to anything - when it was plugged in again - it just was the same - nothing came on that gave me a option for home mode etc.

does anyone else have a clue ? i did notice the HDMI cable is connected to input 3 - it has 6 inputs - not sure how many are HDMI - i scrolled from input 1 to input 6 and noticed that only input 3 says Dynamic -- the rest say standard - but there nothing connected to them -

i was not able to connect his cable to another input - he will have to do that - i suggested he try that - i cant think of anything else as to why - input 3 is not allowing me to change it and it stays on Dynamic
very strange -

does this sound right to anyone here who has Pioneer -

actually does anyone have this model that can help out here -

its the PRO FHD1 50 inch model -

thanks -

Originally Posted by hhaller

So has anyone here moved from a 720 plasma to the 9g Kuro (or any other 1080p plasma, I suppose) and noticed an increase of pixelation on broadcast TV? I went from a 5080 to a 111 and I can't get over how bad the pixelation and artifacts are on some channels. (Fios)

Originally Posted by syswei

Sorry if this might have been posted earlier somewhere, I haven't monitored the Pio threads much....but the May issue of Home Theater mag has a review of the 141FD and in the opening paragraph it says:

Pioneer panels will continue to be available through the end of 2009, including the Elite Siganture Series monitors.

I know that production is slated to end much sooner than that, but if the info is accurate (i.e., from people at Pioneer who might know), it might indicate how long Pio expects its inventory (including what remains to be built before final shutdowns of all plasma production) will last.

Originally Posted by drmroth

. . .Here are my questions:

1. Do I buy the 111 or spend another 2k for the 151?

Originally Posted by drmroth

2. What is the difference between buying from auth dealer or not, and does it matter?. . .

Originally Posted by drmroth

. . .My girl friends have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to electronics - pocketbooks, we're on the same page - TV's, clueless. (female member )

Originally Posted by Johnla

I would not trust what HTG magazine says about it, I would also not count on on there being any real supply of new sets lasting until the end of 2009. Most all of the reports from people who have some insight about the assembly & supply chain of the Pioneer sets, is that, as of this month production of anymore new sets in the US has pretty much already been shut down.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan


A dealer who has paid the fees to be an authorized Elite dealer generally has the financial wherewithal to do so, and often traffic in other high end products as well.

Originally Posted by Bushman4

Once they run out THAT'S IT! They ARE NOT going to start manufacturing them again to meet demand.

Originally Posted by Jim Boden

Sounds like it's left over from April Fools' Day to me.

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

I hate to say this, but IMHO, the most important determinant IMHO is what the extra 2 grand spent on a luxury, non-appreciating item will do to your overall financial situation. If the impact will be small, then I say--go for it and you won't be sorry!

As I recall; however, you also have an ususual mounting situation, so I'd make sure the larger size articulating mount will still fit in your particular application (and that you have at least 8 feet of distance to watch it from) before taking the plunge.



The difference is that Pioneer officially says they will only honor the warranty if you purchase from an authorized dealer.

However, I think the benefits of buying from an authorized dealer go a little further. A dealer who has paid the fees to be an authorized Elite dealer generally has the financial wherewithal to do so, and often traffic in other high end products as well. These types of folks tend not to be "fly by night" organizations and they are used to catering to a discriminating, knowledgable crowd (exceptions exist, of course).

Moreover, they may be more likely to be around and have a solid return policy if there's trouble. I also like the fact they are playing by the rules, and value the desigation. The small savings going unauthorized becomes really minimal when amortized over the life of the television. Obviously, there may be excellent dealers who are not authorized, but I felt a lot better going this route. YMMV, of course.



Don't worry, we're here for moral support (on the TV purchase that is--don't know much about pocketbooks!)

Originally Posted by drmroth

I'll make the room work... I'm going to go with the 151 - Thank you for your help

How long do I have to be on here before I will no longer have "new member" under my name? Although, I'm just about to turn 40 and I don't want "senior" under there either

PS - don't be surprised if I still have more questions tomorrow - although I'm just about there!

Originally Posted by webdrifter

Hello,

This may be a crazy question, but does anyone have the box that their 111-FD came out of ? I need to know the measurements length x height so I can see if it will fit in my van without laying it down. I'm suppost to pick mine up Sunday , and my truck broke today ..... Just having some sorry luck!

Thanks

Originally Posted by ROMAN O

Carton Dimensions 52-7/8 x 38-3/8 x 20 (W x H x D)

Originally Posted by drmroth

I'll make the room work... I'm going to go with the 151

Originally Posted by JlgLaw

Thanks, I did see that. But having had a bad experience with one of their Blu-ray downloads, I now order the disk (or USB) directly. (I figure there is less chance of ME screwing it up.)

That said, when did that firmware get released? I asked if the 0401 firmware WAS the fix, or if that is the firmware with the "bug" (her language) and she indicated the 0401 WAS the problem. I do question that, because it is still downloadable and I didn't think Pio would have it up if it was a problem, which is why I posted here looking for clarification.

Jim

Originally Posted by progprog

His posts are always entertaining when he gets pissed! While I know that D-Nice is knowledgeable, I think others are as well. I'm (very slightly) inclined to believe the "consensus" amongst these sources, but I'm also aware that none of them are directly from the horse's (Pioneer's) mouth. All of which continues to to leave the Pure Cinema discussion somewhat unsettled and confusing for most users.

I guess I see why they dumbed down the manual to the lowest-common-denominator, but Pioneer really should have provided a technical manual or other documentation for owners who actually want to understand the specific adjustment parameters & options available in these sets.