The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 614

Originally Posted by asystole13

I can get a 5010fd brand new for a 1000. What do you guys think?

Originally Posted by FactionG

I was some what in the same boat as the guy wanting 5010FD for my other living area in the house. That is until I found out about 10g tech in the 500M/101FD. Now I'm pondering if I should purchase 500M/101FD and move my 111FD should go to the loft or stay in the media room...

Originally Posted by progprog

Again..those are 9G monitors. The are the same generation and technology as the other 9Gs.

Originally Posted by progprog

Again..those are 9G monitors. The are the same generation and technology as the other 9Gs.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

And you would be wrong on this topic. The 500M and 101FD are different panels compared to all other NA 9G Kuros. They have improvements that were scheduled to be in the 10G models. I'm not sure why this is so hard for some to accept.

Originally Posted by progprog

That's not hard for me to accept. It's just the first I've ever heard of it. (Hey, I'm willing to learn new things! ) Do you mean the 500M/101 in particular, or are you referring to the 60" panels as well? Is there a post somewhere that describes these differences?

Originally Posted by FactionG

Originally Posted by progprog

That's not hard for me to accept. It's just the first I've ever heard of it. (Hey, I'm willing to learn new things! ) Do you mean the 500M/101 in particular, or are you referring to the 60" panels as well? Is there a post somewhere that describes these differences?

PS: I'll be happy to delete my posts to the contrary....

Originally Posted by carftopher

It's been said by D-Nice that only the 500M/101FD have some of the improvements we were to see in the 10G Kuros. None of the other 9G panels (5020/6020/111/151/141/600M) have this added 10G tech.

Originally Posted by progprog

That's not hard for me to accept. It's just the first I've ever heard of it. (Hey, I'm willing to learn new things! ) Do you mean the 500M/101 in particular, or are you referring to the 60" panels as well? Is there a post somewhere that describes these differences?

PS: I'll be happy to delete my posts to the contrary....

Originally Posted by progprog

Cool. But is there anyplace where I can read some detail on that? You've piqued my curiosity now.....

Originally Posted by D-Nice

You can visit the KRP owner's thread and start reading from post #3011 forward. Play close attention to post #3039 as it contains links to the PDP module part numbers for all NA 9G Kuros. The 500M/101FD do not share the same PDP module as the 111FD. This is the only information you are allowed to see outside of Pioneer regarding said differences.... and Pioneer doesn't create different part numbers just for giggles

Originally Posted by carftopher

D-Nice first reported it in the 500M/600M Discussion Thread. The particular quote can be found here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16610558

The quote is followed up by turbe commenting that when putting his 500M/141FD next to each other, his 500M has deeper blacks than the 141FD.

Originally Posted by progprog

Thanks for the links/references! I appreciate your taking the time to find them. I'm off to exercise right now, but I'll read up on it tonight.



Thanks to you too, carftopher!

Originally Posted by progprog

Thanks for the links/references! I appreciate your taking the time to find them. I'm off to exercise right now, but I'll read up on it tonight.
Thanks to you too, carftopher!

Originally Posted by D-Nice

I forgot you are three hours behind me. Its bedtime here.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

You can visit the KRP owner's thread and start reading from post #3011 forward. Play close attention to post #3039 as it contains links to the PDP module part numbers for all NA 9G Kuros. The 500M/101FD do not share the same PDP module as the 111FD. This is the only information you are allowed to see outside of Pioneer regarding said differences.... and Pioneer doesn't create different part numbers just for giggles

Originally Posted by psufan5

Gregg Loewen from LionAV was here yesterday to calibrate my Pioneer Elite. The only thing I can really say about the calibration is "WOW". It is nearly impossible to explain the difference between pure with D-Nice settings and an ISFccc calibration. The picture is so much brighter and everything is spot on. Plus the picture is no longer yellow and washed out!

Highly recommend Gregg for any of your calibration needs. Also quite the educational experience - everything was explained in great detail! Anyone who doesnt think there is a difference between normal calibration and ISFccc professional calibration is blind!

Very happy camper

Originally Posted by Spleen

I've been enjoying the professional ISF calibration on my Elite PRO-111FD for a few weeks now so I'm overdue in giving my report.

Gregg Loewen did my calibration and he did a great job. He arrived on time and was very professional and personable. He explained what he was doing and gladly answered all my questions.

The before and after results are stunning. The ISFccc Day/Night modes are a huge improvement. I use the ISF Night mode almost exclusively.

Everyone who has seen my TV is extremely impressed.

If anyone is on the fence about having their TV professionally calibrated -- just do it.

Gregg does not normally visit my area (San Antonio) so I feel honored to have had him do my calibration. I will use one of his affiliated partners (Doug Weil) who tours Texas when it comes time for a calibration tune-up.

Thanks Gregg!

Originally Posted by gbreda

Back on 5/28/09 Gregg Loewen calibrated my 111. Prior to this I had just recently finished the break in period using the thumb drive files and then had been using D-Nice' general calibration. The display looked great but I work with color copiers and know the true value of calibrating those units for best picture reproduction. The same goes along with these displays.

Gregg calibrated 2 inputs (that is all I use) for Pure, ISF Night and Day. Out of the box and prior to using D-Nices calibration, both my better half and I thought it had a little too much red. The intial changes made pulled some red out, but Gregg pulled even more red out without my ever mentioning anything.

The final outcome was fantastic. HD Sports stations are amazing. At the time I had a Pioneer 51 BD player. I just returned that unit and replaced it with the Oppo 83. Gregg instructed me on how to adjust the contrast on the new player and poof, the display is perfect!! I just finshed watching Hellboy II and the reds in a movie that relies on a red character looked completely natural, not overpowering in any way. The next test will be The Dark Knight.

I opted for the Pioneer Elite over the Panasonic G10 series and then opted for Gregg over BB for calibrating. I do not regret either decision. You get what you pay for, and Gregg is defiantely at the top of this profession !!! He explained everything that he was doing and took the time to answer any questions that I had. He even continued helping after the visit to assist in the tweaking of the different BD player than the player that was here at the time. I would recomend him to anyone that is considering a calibration!!!!

Originally Posted by prepress

My 111 will not come on.

The standby light is on, so it has power. But it doesn't respond to the cable remote, or its own. I tried hitting the power buttton on the panel itself as well. I unplugged it for a few minutes and then plugged it back in; still nothing.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Originally Posted by prepress

After several minutes it suddenly seems to be working again. Does anyone have experience with something like this?

Originally Posted by dmarek87

Hey everyone, I own the 111 and i have a Denon 2809ci receiver. I just bought a wii today. I will be getting a component video cable in the mail either tomorrow or the next day. The component cable of course has 3 connectors for video (red, white, green) and two for audio (red and white) Is that all I need for my home theater or do I need any more cables (RCA). How exactly do I hook this up? The rest of the home theater has been connected for over 6 months now.

Originally Posted by progprog

That doesn't quite make sense to me. If it is set to 1080i, what signals does that apply to? As I recall, I had to play with options on a cable box for my folks and there was a separate setting for 480i signals, kind of hidden in a separate non-user-looking menu. (I can look that up and see if I can find it.) Are you sure you can't make it upscale 480i to 1080i?

If indeed the box won't upscale, then the Kuro will. In which case, you'd want to try different Pure Cinema modes to see what you like best. I would try all of them, using an SD movie channel.
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EDIT: Alex, I just looked up that box, and what I read seemed to confirm what I thought about those boxes. Unless you specifically engage the 4:3 override in the User Setiings, it should be upscaling your SD channels to 1080i if that's the output you've selected. (See this setup guide.) You can check this with the Kuro. Making sure that HDMI output is set to 1080i and the 4:3 override is not engaged in the cable box, select an SD channel. When you press the "Display" button for your Kuro, it will tell you the resolution of the incoming signal.

Originally Posted by progprog

That 5-cable set is actually a combined component/audio set. The first three cables (in the set) are for video and, as you noted, they are color coded. Hook the appropriate colors to the component input jacks on the 111FD. The last two cables, the red and white pair, are your audio cables, and need to be connected to the L/R audio jacks on the 111FD.

This connects the Wii directly to your Kuro. Alternately, you could connect it through the receiver, with those same cables similarly connected to a set of component jacks & their associated audio jacks on the 2809.

As a side note: Does the Wii not have HDMI out? If it does, that is usually a better connection approach.