The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 617

Originally Posted by LM2008

I can be certain to eliminate hdmi calbes because I have plenty of monoprice/oppo cable as well as other hdmi cables. However, I have a sense that the hdmi output slot from receiver to the tv is kind of loose. I have two hdmi ins and one hdmi out from my receiver and the two hdmi ins seem to be tight fit. Is there any way to fix the loose hdmi cable out? or am I out of luck with this receiver and may need a new one. That would bring me up another question if I have a loose cable that would affect bluray disc too but it does not.

I am not engaging 24p for DVDs. It is off. I also have color space as 36 deep color and 4:4:4. Do these two settings have anything to do with handshake problem? I am going to put in an sd dvd movie now to see. I have use a number of music videos and all of them have this handshake issue.

Originally Posted by progprog

My gut reaction is that your cable or its connectors are causing issues, but it would take some experimentation to confirm that.

Originally Posted by LM2008

Like I said I will put in an sd dvd movie and test that first. I just put in sd dvd "Remember the Titans" and it is still same problem. How can I can test for loose hdmi connector?

Originally Posted by madman808

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Originally Posted by progprog

See my last post. (Also, when running through the receiver, make sure that your receiver is set to "pass through" for the input that's connected to the Oppo. It occurred to me that the receiver could be trying to do something with the signal. It shouldn't be doing any processing at all.)

Originally Posted by LM2008

Thank you Proprog. I am afraid it may be the loose hdmi output from my receiver. I am testing the same dvd right now and will test other sd dvd music video and sd dvd movie plugging from Oppo to tv.

If my hdmi is loose. Is there a way to jam it tight with something? or this hdmi output slot is useless now with my receiver. Also I don't know much about audio, but if I hook up Oppo hdmi to tv and multi channel using analog cables, will that loose the sound quality? Or hdmi is only for convenience of reducing cables? if I have a receiver with hdmi 1.3v, will hooking up analog cables to this receiver will not be able to achieve loseless sound?

Originally Posted by progprog

Hmm...so these DVDs play fine when connecting directly to the Kuro? This still doesn't conclusively implicate the HDMI connector, since it apparently outputs your other content (BDs) just fine. (I don't recall if you said you have other video cources coming through the receiver....they would be sharing that same HDMI connection as well.)

If other sources, or other content from the Oppo, plays fine, I'm actully leaning more toward a settings conflict between the Oppo and the receiver.

To answer your last question, the only other way to get the lossless audio from your blu-rays would be to run analog audio cables from the Oppo to the receiver.

Originally Posted by LM2008

Yeah, I am confused now. Bluray discs played fine with output resolution set at auto. I also hook up hdmi cable to receiver out to tv. So if I have a loose connector than these two sources should have been a problem too.

It is so frustrating because when I begin playing these sd dvd videos, it played fine for about 1/2 to 1hr than it starting to go blank on and off. I am not sure why it has to be 1/2 to 1hr than the problem started to happen. I then turn everything off the next day, it will be the same, playing sd dvd music video 1/2 to 1hr than it started again. I first thought the sound play loud enough to vibrate the cable and loosen it. since the hdmi cable output slot already is loose.

Originally Posted by LM2008

It is late and got to go to sleep now. I have to test these out tomorrow or Sunday. Thanks for all the help progprog.

I am curious to see how people with Oppo bluray players connect their players.

Do you connect Oppo to tv via hdmi and analog cables from Oppo to receiver?
Or Oppo hdmi cable to receiver than receiver hdmi to tv?

Originally Posted by progprog

Okay, I hate to keep throwing more variables into this. But....now I'm wondering if there might be an issue with the player itself. Video processing generates a lot of heat, and maybe when your player is doing the work, it starts to overheat after awhile.

Just speculating. But it kind of fits if this problem ONLY occurs when your Oppo 83 is upscaling. Now keep in mind, if that is the issue, it should not matter whether you go through the receiver or directly to the TV; the Oppo would exhibit this behavior either way. So be sure to throroughly test whether you get the same problem when directly connected to the TV. This is a critical piece of information as you try to narrow down the issue.

If this happens either way (through receiver and not), I would call Oppo. They're very good about replacements if there's a hardware failure/problem.

Originally Posted by Jason Priestley

I just have to say, (can't remember who suggested it) but the Ideal-Lume is really an amazing thing to pair with the Elite. It really helps eliminate reflection and makes the black striking. On top of that, I think my eyes are not as strained and at night, my TV actually seems a fair bit brighter. I'll try to put a photo later this week.

Originally Posted by progprog

In a word...no. I'm out in Seattle, and lots of rain and humidity are the norm here. The humidity idea doesn't make sense to me at all. However, it does sound like you might be narrowing this down to a remote or remote sensor issue...is that your impression as well? (If so, it'd be a relief to know that it's not likely the power supply or something more serious.)

Are you using the stock remote or a programmed one? And I know this has only happened a couple times, but does the hard button always seem to work okay, even when this is happening? This is obvious (I know ), but I'd try new remote batteries, just to cover all bases.

Originally Posted by prepress

I use the cable remote and sometimes the 111's remote; both worked before, and both work with the TV once it is on but the TV doesn't respond to on/off commands from either. Strange this suddenly started happening. But I'm not sure a power issue is completely out of the question. Yes, the button works, but a look at the power supply might not hurt.

I have the names of two service centers (one in Brooklyn, interestingly) and I now plan to call, as a third day straight of this all but convinces me this isn't something that will just go away on its own.

Originally Posted by progprog

And what settings are you using? If you're looking at one AV mode (or an adjusted one) with a higher sharpness setting versus, say, PURE, it'll look sharper. Also, the Pure Cinema mode can impact motion perception. Are those the same between the two TVs?

Originally Posted by progprog

Doesn't matter how they're encoded. They are displayed as 1080p, just like everything else on these panels.

Originally Posted by Scottyman

According to the JPEG info, Yes

Originally Posted by Vashti

Hey guys! I haven't been here in a LOONG time. It's like coming home after a long vacation. So I'm trying to get my Dad to pick up an elite before they're gone. I haven't done any TV research since I bought my 141 last October.

Elite owners, if you had it to do again, would you still grab an Elite (a model that is nearly a year old) rather than whatever's come down the pike in the last year? Thanks for any feedback.

Originally Posted by Vashti

Elite owners, if you had it to do again, would you still grab an Elite (a model that is nearly a year old) rather than whatever's come down the pike in the last year? Thanks for any feedback.

Originally Posted by Vashti

Hey guys! I haven't been here in a LOONG time. It's like coming home after a long vacation. So I'm trying to get my Dad to pick up an elite before they're gone. I haven't done any TV research since I bought my 141 last October.

Elite owners, if you had it to do again, would you still grab an Elite (a model that is nearly a year old) rather than whatever's come down the pike in the last year? Thanks for any feedback.

Originally Posted by schroedk

I respectfully disagree with progprog with the SD sources; the video processing in the 151, in my view, will bring out the best regardless of the source, at least compared to the sets I was looking at (the x1, s1 and g10 series of plasmas, as well as an 80u from last year, and I'm not even going to waste my time with the LCD's).

Originally Posted by Vashti

Hey guys! I haven't been here in a LOONG time. It's like coming home after a long vacation. So I'm trying to get my Dad to pick up an elite before they're gone. I haven't done any TV research since I bought my 141 last October.

Elite owners, if you had it to do again, would you still grab an Elite (a model that is nearly a year old) rather than whatever's come down the pike in the last year? Thanks for any feedback.

Originally Posted by progprog

Actually, that's a really good point. I seriously doubt that anything else you can buy new these days would be better for SD-TV. My mental comparison is to my Sony SXRD....technology you can't buy anymore. It really did make SD channels look better. But everything else you can buy now seems to be LCDs ("grotesque" is the descriptor that comes to mind....) and lesser plasmas.

I rescind the qualifier in my previous comment! Get your Dad a Kuro, Vashti!!!

Originally Posted by mvp2005fan

I have to admit, it's really hard to watch SD on mine because SD just looks so lousy compared to HD.

Originally Posted by James W. Johnson

Maybe I am too easy but in my experience some SD movies look so good on my 151 that I will never buy BD versions of those movies. Heck , I just bought the X-Men trilogy on BD , and I am fighting the temptation to compare the 2 because. Ive only upgraded 15 or so DVDs to BD, only a few times have I compared the 2, the first one I did this with was Kill Bill V1 & V2 , the difference was huge on those but there have been others where the difference was not huge from further than 3 feet from my 151.

Originally Posted by James W. Johnson

Heck I only sit 9.5' back from my 151 and I have near 20/20 vision, I don't wear any kind of glasses. Anyhow there have been a number of occasions when I was watching a BD and have wished my 151 was 70 or 80" to get the most from my reference Blu-Rays.

Originally Posted by progprog

You and me both! I want an 80" Kuro....who do we call about that?

Originally Posted by alettiere

I recently upgraded from my POS Samsung 1400 BD player to a PS3, which is something I should have initially purchased in the first place back in '07.

Since I'm guessing a lot of Elite owners also use the PS3 for BD, I was wondering about two specific settings:

1 - Video Output Format - Right now, I have it set to Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr because setting it to RGB significantly crushed blacks.

2 - RGB Full Range - Should this be set to Full or Limited? I've been told that it depends on whether or not your television has a Full Range or not.

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Vashti

Hey guys! I haven't been here in a LOONG time. It's like coming home after a long vacation. So I'm trying to get my Dad to pick up an elite before they're gone. I haven't done any TV research since I bought my 141 last October.

Elite owners, if you had it to do again, would you still grab an Elite (a model that is nearly a year old) rather than whatever's come down the pike in the last year? Thanks for any feedback.