The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 624

lol...saving for this Kuro took a butt ton of time. Don't take this the wrong way, but my home theater budget is tiny compared to some other users here. You don't want to know what I use for speakers, lol.

But, the very next item is a Blu-Ray player. I've thought about maybe hooking up an old computer and tossing a $100 Blu-Ray drive in there. Not sure what that means for profiles and what not, though.

Ah, so PURE is not for colors? I'll input D-Nice's settings in the first page of that one thread and check it out with Blood Diamond after the break-in. Yeah, I'm pretty confident it isn't the KURO either, now. The break-in's images actually look pretty vibrant.

Sweet, thanks MVP. I might take you up on that later, but for now, I'm doing all right.

Oh, it's the second post? I had seen that earlier, but I was like: I can't believe there isn't a single Pioneer review on here! Gotcha......

Thanks for all the encouragement, guys. Definitely happy to be on the plasma side of the fence,

~Ibrahim~

I sure can relate! Some of my current HT equipment dates back to 1982!

Here we go again!

Haha, I think I've gotten my answer. You should know, though, that I wasn't exactly blown-away by the KURO (I've seen very few HDTVs) when I got it. I just don't have that videophile eye, I guess.

But, it's definitely growing on me. Sometimes I pause and just look at the blacks it displays during the break-in. Everyone in my family thinks it has gone off, lol, and I'm somehow breaking it by doing the break-in. Family!

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Yup....I would post pictures of my setup, but I'm a bit embarassed, lol. Maybe I'll get the courage soon enough.

Nah...not really. Ibrahim already got some good suggestions and references.....and heatwave is on vacation!

Thanks for the laugh...I actually miss his replys and hope he returns safely from his Bike Ride.

HH

Me too. I like the guy- I was just kidding around.

The sad reality is those who have their color at +3, which many calibrators come up with, their picture is worse than out the box. And much worse than my settings. It's a dream to think you can come anywhere near close to this pq with +3 setting.

Can you recommend someone here in the Seattle, WA area? I would love to have D-Nice come over and calibrate it, but he lives on the other side of the country.

Thanks

David Evans covers Seattle, see the list in my signature (below)

I finally get the opportunity to wall mount my 111.
Question is regarding the monoprice units...
I notice that they have a disclaimer on a majority of them saying they are not
compatible with a few Pioneer models.

Does anyone here have more information on the cohesion of monoprice wallmounts and the pioneer 111? I use monoprice for speaker wire and hdmi cables, and find their price to quality ratio incredible.

Lastly, would the only thing folks who do use the monoprice mounts recommend doing is changing out the lag bolts? I've read a few places that mention using longer ones?
I'm by no means a carpenter, so any advice is welcome!

Thank you all and enoy the great tv. Had mine since last fall and love it

@PDP7

I don't have any new info, sorry,but I 100% agree that Monoprice has fantastic stuff. I buy all my A/V gear from them. I was looking into buying the mount from there, but I think it is the PRO-151FD that has the mount compatibility issues.

~Ibrahim~

Those settings aren't very good, it' a little blurry.

Maybe because it's a SD dvd? I don't care if you had a blu-ray it would look better than your settings you paid for, guaranteed

Better to whom? Does personal preference (besides yours I mean) ever weigh into all these judgments you make?

Better to anyone who prefers a accurate picture that you would see in real life. Not a fake overblown, oversaturated, video look. Do you want to see people that look realistic or fake? Does the pic look real or fake? Nothing preferance about it except accuracy.

Okay....accuracy according to Zues.

I don't know if it looks real or fake, because I've never seen her in person, let alone 30 years ago.

I will say this though, it isn't going to be what the director intended.

And I guess the "blurry" comment went right over your head, though I can't say that I am surprised.

The reality is many people think the "fake" you are referring to is better/more real. I'll never forget being at a store seeing a Casino Royale Blu-ray playing side-by-side on a Plasma and LCD screen. The LCD had that classic video/TV HD look you are referring to where it made the film look like it was shot with an HD video cam instead of on film. I hated it and said so out loud but there was a gaggle of other consumers standing around me at the time and they all thought I was crazy. They LOVED it and were mesmerized. That’s why LCD sell so well – the average Joe doesn’t care nearly as much about “accuracy” or “film-like” – they want a picture that pops and is saturated with fine detail. To them accurate is “soft” or “dim” etc. This forum is not a representative sample of the general population – its filled with videophile that revere something most aren’t seeking, just as the true audiophiles still have turntables and a vinyl collection.

Great! Thanks turbe

I know it's futile to try to teach you but do you really think your "calibrated" settings you paid for are going to show you EXACTLY what the director intended? If you are at +3 no friggen way. Watch conan tonight and notice how oversaturated and fake he looks like with your color at +3, do you really think the director filming conan thru the hd cameras are meant to make him look fake as all heck? No way.

Maybe that's why I wasn't blown away like everyone else about my PRO-11FD......

Interesting post; still love my Elite, though,

~Ibrahim~

Great example, considering the numerous variables when it comes to broadcasts. Even if you and I had the same measured settings, they would look completely different, because we are at the mercy of our CSP's.

But, you are right, you win again even though your examples aren't very well thought out, and illogical.

I am currently using monoprice hdmi 1.3 with my 151, Onkyo 805 and Panny BD30. Have not had any problems...

Maybe Zues is Heatwave's long lost twin

Bottom line here is, if your display is calibrated you're getting the picture that you are supposed to get. You may not like it, but it is certainly accurate. That point is not arguable. So, we should not argue it.

I'd offer that your cable box is wrong - not the display. Or, if OTA - broadcast quality is... well, broadcast quality. Judging reference levels with either is like trying to measure the space between molecules with a tape measure. Stupid and impossible.

My settings for the FIOS DVR are no where near the same as those for my BD player. It's almost a crime what I need to tweak away from reference to get a reasonably viewable picture on that.

However, with my BDP-83, color is set to +2 (+3 was a little off the mark, but barely). I like a little more subtle image and while between settings - I chose the lower (personal preference) setting. I can tell you that the PQ from that calibrated setting is what the filmmakers intended. It's pristine.

But, variance on the panels could make another person's display use the +3 set.

Just got my 151 I want to start burning it in as soon as I get the set it set up. I down loaded Evangelo2’s Brake-In DVD. I converted the Zip files to DVD. There is about 1.5 minutes of flashing color and about 41.5 minutes of black is this the way it should be or should I edit the files and use just 1.5 minutes of color? Or should I use the Thumb Drive Files?

Thanks for any help

I did the thumb drive way. This is how mine goes:

30 Seconds Color
7 Seconds Black
30 Seconds Color
7 Seconds Black

Quick question: where it goes from white to gradually gray. That isn't gray, right? Because it is definitely BROWN or TAN on mine...The thumbnail in windows shows it going from white to gray, but when I open the file, it is white to dark brown. White to dark brown is what my KURO displays.

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Does anyone else get any dither noise when they look at their Kuro very closely? Like the pixels are moving, even though it's a static image?

My Thumb Drive Images run from white to gray, gray to black, black to reds, reds to greens, last greens to blues. There are a total of 20 images

You have no black in between? Hmm....Are your files directly on the jump drive or within a folder? And this is on the KURO actually viewing the slideshow or are you viewing it from a computer?

~Ibrahim~