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post #2251 of 30268
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Originally Posted by rgarret View Post

i have a chance to buy pro 110fd for $500 less than 111fd what to do?

It depends on how painful it would be to spend the $500. For me, if that was the size/model that I wanted, an additional 500 clams wouldn't be too much to ask for the newer model. But it's really your decision.
post #2252 of 30268
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Originally Posted by rgarret View Post

i have a chance to buy pro 110fd for $500 less than 111fd what to do?


For 500 bucks difference go with the 111. For me it was $600 difference and I
chose the 111 and I do not regret it in the least.

Good Luck
post #2253 of 30268
thanks for the help i needed the push
post #2254 of 30268
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Originally Posted by LBDiver View Post

I think the problem with the discount, warranty, calibration offer is, as you could even hear on the video feed somebody asking, what to do with people who already have sets on order with him. I believe he would have to deal with quite a few cancellation re-orders.

Pioneer will definitely get some calls asking where is my discount, 5 year warranty and free Cal. from people who heard about the event or participated online.

Last, does anybody know whether Pioneer only canceled the price discounts, or did they end the whole deal completely? I for one would like to see how Pio will handle somebody who buys a non-E under the free calibration promotion.

People cancel/reorder because they feel they are being cheated. If you are giving that offer to new orders,in all fairness that should apply to orders that have not been shipped out yet. You can`t play gimmicks with customers in that way. That`s why all the successful online/B&M merchants like costco,amazon,best buy carry such good reputation. They treat all customers same way; not different prices/deals for each one. They all have a 30 to 90 day price adjustment policy.
If pioneer is giving that offer,he should make an effort to pass on that offer to all unshipped orders and not just new orders.That is totally BS

And IF pioneer INDEED pulled that offer, he should cancel that offer to all the friday orders to prove that was true
post #2255 of 30268
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Originally Posted by Mycroft1888 View Post

It's not the dealer's fault if the mfr pulls out of a special price cut. I'm sure Roman or any other dealer would have had to do the same thing. They can't give away product and stay in business.

Anything can happen and Robert is a great guy so I am sure people would get taken care of anyway somehow.
post #2256 of 30268
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Originally Posted by arunkandra View Post

I just wanted to share my opinion after the photp shoot. It was a great experience. I liked the way it was organised. There were 2-3 pioneer executives,D-nice,kevin and many other people. All these days I was very doubtful if I really want to buy the pioneer b/c I thought that the panasonic is cheaper and not bad. But the video demo they had totally convinced me that the quality of the colors and the details in the image in pioneer are just awesome.

I was waiting for the 141FD...D nice told me that it is supposed to be either equal or better than the 151FD in terms of PQ

Robert should really get the credit for this.

Thanks Robert

Thank you.

-Robert
post #2257 of 30268
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Originally Posted by arunkandra View Post

...... He even offered me to pay money only after I receive the delivery of the set.
It would have been good to have the discounts but still I feel comfortable doing business with him. And In fact many of friends and family members will defnitely buy from him once they see my TV and get jealous

Wow...only paying when you actually get something? And this is supposed to be a sales incentive?
post #2258 of 30268
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Originally Posted by arunkandra View Post

Robert said the 141FD would be coming out in mid to late August. He said it has less heat, more picture tweaking options. Also the pioneer guys from Japan said the signature series is defnitely going to go through extremely strict QC before release and that it is a prestigious project for them.

Does the 141 come with a stand or do you have to pay extra for it?

I liked hearing Roberts coments about the 141. I learned alot.

One thing I pretty much learned is in october (or whenever they come out) there looks like there will be a new sheriff in town. But I don't expect the PQ to be too much better than the 151 but who knows. I certainly hope not.
post #2259 of 30268
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Originally Posted by rgarret View Post

i have a chance to buy pro 110fd for $500 less than 111fd what to do?

get the 111 IMO.
post #2260 of 30268
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

I certainly hope not.

You are going to need your 'fix'..
post #2261 of 30268
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Originally Posted by samkk0891 View Post

That`s why you got to be careful with some dealers. I hate it when people change their terms once the purchase has already been made. For me not just the price but also how sincere the dealer is counts. If some one can change their price/deals overnight with some lame excuses (Pioneer pulling out the deal which is absolute BS) you can imagine what kind of customer service you would get, if in case you get a defective panel(say many dead pixels,loud buzz etc).

I am glad that I`ll be going with Roman. I have sent PM`s to many forum dealers and I think he is the best and if you want peace of mind , i would suggest you to do the same (if you have already paid the money, I guess you are stuck)

You need to realize that Pioneer pulled out not Robert. Robert cannot help that Pioneer made that decision.
So this is not Roberts fault.
So there is no "sales gimmic" here. Robert only relayed a discount that Pioneer instructed him to and then Pioneer pulled out which they should not have done after Robert had already announced the discount.

But I would be willing to bet that Robert does good by everyone just like Roman said.
My experience buying 2 kuros from him has been fantastic.
post #2262 of 30268
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

Does the 141 come with a stand or do you have to pay extra for it?

I liked hearing Roberts coments about the 141. I learned alot.

One thing I pretty much learned is in october (or whenever they come out) there looks like there will be a new sheriff in town. But I don't expect the PQ to be too much better than the 151 but who knows. I certainly hope not.

From what I heard, the 141FD has different drivers. Now what that means to PQ will be found out once the product is out

Also it has no stand, no USB port

Chad, what are the various uses you can think of about the USB port
post #2263 of 30268
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

You are going to need your 'fix'..

nope, no more for me.
The 151 I have now will have to be it for at least a year or two.
My newest conquest is to achieve the second part of the "home theater experience" which is Sound.
post #2264 of 30268
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Originally Posted by samkk0891 View Post

From what I heard, the 141FD has different drivers. Now what that means to PQ will be found out once the product is out

Also it has no stand, no USB port

Chad, what are the various uses you can think of about the USB port

that`s one of my questions too.....why you need USB ..

can anyone chip in please
post #2265 of 30268
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Originally Posted by arunkandra View Post

that`s one of my questions too.....why you need USB ..

can anyone chip in please

If you had a USB memory card reader, then you could pull a memory card from a camera and slap it in there for a quick slide show.

If you don't have a network or a media server set up, you can take a video that you downloaded from the Internet and play it on the TV.
post #2266 of 30268
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Originally Posted by Mycroft1888 View Post

If you had a USB memory card reader, then you could pull a memory card from a camera and slap it in there for a quick slide show.

If you don't have a network or a media server set up, you can take a video that you downloaded from the Internet and play it on the TV.

This is a bit too complicated for me. I can understand the memory card thing. But how about the network or media server.

If you have that set up , does it mean you would not need the USB port.In that case how would you stream the video

How can you play movies directly with the help of USB? Does the Apple TV box fit into any of our discussion here

Also can you pls tell me various applications of the ethernet port?

Thanks
post #2267 of 30268
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Originally Posted by samkk0891 View Post


Chad, what are the various uses you can think of about the USB port

For one thing, to run the break-in jpegs if you need to, another is picture slideshow. I know there are other uses but thats all I have used the USB port for so far.
post #2268 of 30268
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Originally Posted by arunkandra View Post

But how about the network or media server.

If you have that set up , does it mean you would not need the USB port.In that case how would you stream the video

Also can you pls tell me various applications of the ethernet port?

Thanks

The network port that is now included on both the non-Elites as well as the Elites allows you to connect to devices on your network that support DLNA, which is a collaborative CE industry standard for sharing files like music, photos, and video, and can be accessed on your panel through Pio's Home Media Gallery (HMG).

In my case I have a server set up that stores all my music, photos and video's and am therefore able to access that stuff through HMG on the panel and stream music or video's etc. I would say the music side of HMG is not bad, but find the photo viewing painfully slow in loading images. I haven't played with it much because I got fed up real fast, so there may be a way to optimize the settings that I haven't explored yet. It is however a positive step forward, integrating these types of functions directly into the panel rather than requiring a secondary media receiver for each of your displays.
post #2269 of 30268
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Originally Posted by umr View Post

Don't feel bad. Audio is much more complex than video. Marketing also plays a stronger role in this area influencing peoples choices.

I told you before that I primarily focus on video rather than audio. A quick update...

I have decided that I might as well update the audio portion of my home theater if I am going to purchase a Kuro. I am replacing that old Sony receiver with a Pioneer receiver and pioneer speakers. Much more powerful than what I currently have.

This new receiver also has a calibration mic and I will use that for the initial setup. For fine tuning and corrections...what would you recommend an amateur to do for audio calibration? Just simple trial and error?

Also, silly question. My current (old) setup came with pre-wired speakers. The new ones will not be. Is it necessary to have the speaker wire to all speakers be the same length? I heard that many years ago and I've never known if it was true.
post #2270 of 30268
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

I told you before that I primarily focus on video rather than audio. A quick update...

I have decided that I might as well update the audio portion of my home theater if I am going to purchase a Kuro. I am replacing that old Sony receiver with a Pioneer receiver and pioneer speakers. Much more powerful than what I currently have.

This new receiver also has a calibration mic and I will use that for the initial setup. For fine tuning and corrections...what would you recommend an amateur to do for audio calibration? Just simple trial and error?

Also, silly question. My current (old) setup came with pre-wired speakers. The new ones will not be. Is it necessary to have the speaker wire to all speakers be the same length? I heard that many years ago and I've never known if it was true.

Better asked in the speakers forum, but here are my 2 cents.

The folks who do TV calibration can also calibrate your receiver/speakers. You can also follow the instructions in the manual and perform the automatic calibration or you can buy a sound meter from Radio Shack and manually calibrate them yourself. The main purpose for speaker calibration is go get them all to play at the same volume from your listening position. For example, you don't want to get blown out of your seat by explosions because you have the volume up higher to hear the conversation clearly from the center channel.

The speaker wires do NOT need to be the same length. Just buy inexpensive 12 gauge speaker wire (or stranded 12 gauge low voltage wire from Home Depot) and cut to length.
post #2271 of 30268
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Originally Posted by Mycroft1888 View Post

Better asked in the speakers forum, but here are my 2 cents.

The folks who do TV calibration can also calibrate your receiver/speakers. You can also follow the instructions in the manual and perform the automatic calibration or you can buy a sound meter from Radio Shack and manually calibrate them yourself. The main purpose for speaker calibration is go get them all to play at the same volume from your listening position. For example, you don't want to get blown out of your seat by explosions because you have the volume up higher to hear the conversation clearly from the center channel.

The speaker wires do NOT need to be the same length. Just buy inexpensive 12 gauge speaker wire (or stranded 12 gauge low voltage wire from Home Depot) and cut to length.

Thanks for the reply and the info.
post #2272 of 30268
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

For one thing, to run the break-in jpegs if you need to, another is picture slideshow. I know there are other uses but thats all I have used the USB port for so far.

Chad,

Did you consider using calman for calibration.D-nice told me it is worthy.One more thing he pointed out -- it is better to calibrate your plasma every year
http://www.spectracal.com/calman.html
post #2273 of 30268
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Originally Posted by arunkandra View Post

Chad,

Did you consider using calman for calibration.D-nice told me it is worthy.One more thing he pointed out -- it is better to calibrate your plasma every year
http://www.spectracal.com/calman.html

I am not familiar with Calman. I will take a look at it.
I currently use the DVE (digital video essentials) disk to calibrate my brightness, contrast, etc.

If you watched the flatpanel shootout on SoSo's feed or if you were there, you probably noticed the test patterns they were looking at.
They were using the DVE disk.
post #2274 of 30268
Does anyone know when D-Nice will have the break-in done for his 111?
I am very interested in his results.
post #2275 of 30268
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

I am not familiar with Calman. I will take a look at it.
I currently use the DVE (digital video essentials) disk to calibrate my brightness, contrast, etc.

If you watched the flatpanel shootout on SoSo's feed or if you were there, you probably noticed the test patterns they were looking at.
They were using the DVE disk.

Calman is pretty serious stuff- costs about 450$

I dont know anything about it. But if D-nice is saying that, it means something

I heard D-nice breakin is still in process -- review out next weekend
post #2276 of 30268
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

Does anyone know when D-Nice will have the break-in done for his 111?
I am very interested in his results.

Yes I agree, he need to hurry up
post #2277 of 30268
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

I told you before that I primarily focus on video rather than audio. A quick update...

I have decided that I might as well update the audio portion of my home theater if I am going to purchase a Kuro. I am replacing that old Sony receiver with a Pioneer receiver and pioneer speakers. Much more powerful than what I currently have.

This new receiver also has a calibration mic and I will use that for the initial setup. For fine tuning and corrections...what would you recommend an amateur to do for audio calibration? Just simple trial and error?

Also, silly question. My current (old) setup came with pre-wired speakers. The new ones will not be. Is it necessary to have the speaker wire to all speakers be the same length? I heard that many years ago and I've never known if it was true.

I am going through what you are, but I am settled on KEF 3005 for speakers. I don't have room for tower speakers and it is my understanding KEF 3005 is difficult to beat in small size speakers. I have heard nothing but good things about them, so I thought I would give my 2 cents. For receiver, I will probably go with Sony's ES line.
post #2278 of 30268
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

Also, silly question. My current (old) setup came with pre-wired speakers. The new ones will not be. Is it necessary to have the speaker wire to all speakers be the same length? I heard that many years ago and I've never known if it was true.

I use 12 gauge speaker wire from monoprice.com, and I don't think that there is any reason to have all your wires the same length. Just be sure that there is enough to reach your speakers.

Are you buying a surround system in a box? My first ever stereo speakers were Pioneer from the PX in Bangkok, Thailand.

There is a lot of good information about speakers and A/V receivers here at AVS. With a Kuro display, I wanted the best sound that I could get for my budget.
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Was the shootout recorded? Any links so that I can view it?
post #2280 of 30268
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Originally Posted by hamsamish09 View Post

Was the shootout recorded? Any links so that I can view it?

Mogulus.com/soso (it might be mogulos, i forget)
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