The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 859

that is what I see on a cold start, the image is reddish though. If the set is turned off, and back on again, the panel has no image or color in it, just solid dark gray. It does not affect the picture.

The other anomaly, the reddish hue on some scene changes or cuts is there. when I get some time I'll connect my PC to the set and use a generator to see which points in the grey scale are reddish.

I've tried several times to get a picture of the start up screen, either it passes too quick, or the picture does not show the anomaly since the flash cannot be used, and the shutter time is long.

Please forgive me for my ignorance...
I have this beautiful Pioneer Elite 151 and have no idea how to take advantage of the things it can do.

That being said, what can it do?

I'm trying to decide on a device, such as Apple tv or Roku xds, for streaming movies, Internet tv and allow internet capability. I have a Macbook pro unibody with wireless through my airport extreme running on high speed internet.

I know I'm silly but I was hoping that both the Macbook pro and Elite would be able to find one another through bluetooth. I wish it were that simple.

I have a mini DVI port on my macbook pro and just ordered a DVI to HDMI converter. What do I do next? I need some HDMI cables but from what I've read they say they're all the same... is this true? Once I hook up to HDMI how do I get sound? Do I need more cables for that as well? And, once I connect all the cables how do I manage the computer-TV experience?

I tried to find the Pioneer site that would give me some info but they no longer have the TV's on the site because they no longer make them.

HELLLLPPPP!!

Yes, I see a type of ghosting or pre-image like you do. I've not noticed anything else. I wonder if it is because signal is being sent to it as it is firing up.

It has various direct connections (e.g. HDMI) and supports HMG which is documented in Chapter Five of the Operating Instructions. HMG is basically a DLNA "client".



It sounds like you want to display content on you MBP rather than use the 151 as a large monitor. If that's the case I'd suggest a dedicated device. There are no colorspace controls on Macs (unless they were just added in the refresh) so you have to compromise video.


Search for Pro-151FD on the Pioneer site. It should take you the 151 home page.

Not sure how to answer that one...other than this: when fed compatible video signals, it can display the image information more accurately than pretty much any other TV on the market. If you send it the information for a pristine image, such as that from a good blu-ray, the result is nothing short of stunning. If you send it the information for a mediocre image, such as that from most TV tuners and media streamers, it will accurately reveal them in all their mediocrity. What it cannot do is magically make a crappy signal look great.


The Elite does not have bluetooth connectivity, nor does it have ethernet connectivity for media playback. Your sources must feed the panel a video signal through one of the video inputs (HDMI, component, or composite).


DVI does not include audio signals, so even though you would be converting it to HDMI, you will need separate audio cables. HDMI cables are not all the same....cheap ones tend to have poor terminations that are prone to poor connections. Also, the HDMI specs have evolved as bandwidth requirements have increased. Since you want to stream media, play it safe and get one that's designated a Category 2 "high-speed" cable. I'd recommend looking at Monoprice or Blue Jeans Cable.

All that aside: since the "computer-TV" experience seems pretty new to you, might I suggest you go with something more user-friendly, like an Apple TV? They aren't expensive, and they already have the proper connections you need. One good HDMI cable and you're set.

There are other similar products that perform a similar function, of course, but I'm just thinking the interface will be easy and familiar to you (as a Mac user). I think something like this would get you up and running much faster that trying to use your existing computer as an HTPC.

I have an Apple TV - can second the above comment. Works like a dream

What!? When the hell was this?

A few months after Pioneer discontinued their plasma business.

That's unfortunate. He seemed to be a nice person and pretty knowledgeable. I wonder if there was a connection with Pioneer's exit from the TV business.

We shouldn't be proud of this. I was being wowed by the dark knight in IMAX at that time.

It was also the very first time, june, i saw a kuro. It was at bestbuy and the dark knight prologue was being played. I still miss the kuros being displayed at the front end of the MHT section. Looked so classy and high end. Tons of people were always around it. I have yet to see a TV at bestbuy cause the same reaction.

Its just the phosphors yawning.


Do you know what he's doing now? Is he ok?

I suspect it was related. That seemed to be his core business. It's also true, though, that the financial collapse wreaked havoc in the high-end market just as he was trying to get his new store established. Because I live nearby, I know that he opened in a very central, very prime (read expensive) location in downtown Bellevue, WA. I think the timing, with both Pioneer and the economy, just really didn't come together for him.


Staples is starting an AV division, and I believe he's the guy leading that development for them. Everybody around here always appreciated his input and helpfulness, so I'm sure we all wish him nothing but the best.

Thank you - all your information was just what I was looking for.

Apple TV it is - for now.

Thanks again.

Absolutely!

Thanks for the information about Roman. I bought our Kuro from him before he opened his own store. As far as I can tell, the store he was working for during my purchase, also went out of business about the same time. When their AVS adv. disappeared, I call them, but there was nothing but a voice message.

Our area lost a three store chain, an independent store, and the SF Bay Area lost all but two of the stand alone Magnolia stores. As the world turns into one vast Wall-Mart, we need fewer outlets for anything. Sweet.

I've seen the same thing that you do on our 151 since owning it in November 2008


I love the analogy


Last year the town that I live in lost an independent A/V store that had been in business since 1985. It appears that the opening of a BB in the same area didn't help either

No Ethernet capability? Isn't that what the Home Media Gallery DLNA client thingy is for? Confused.

I confess I've never used it since the PS3 meets my streaming needs.

Nope, it's merely for playback of files through USB.

HMG can play content from your home network. Its just limited, clumsy and slow.

I use an HTPC HDMI to the AVR, which is HDMI to the 151FD. That shows/plays anything over our network on the TV. It's fun.

Hmm, I forgot there was an Ethernet jack on the Kuro. Some are saying it doesn't, but maybe their memories are failing also? ;-) I can say for certain that I've never used it.

It does have an ethernet port....and the manual does include a brief discussion of DLNA compliance and network media servers, along with a list of compatible media formats. That said, I've yet to see one person on this forum who has actually found it to be a functional way to play media. It's a "bullet-point feature," as opposed to a real-life feature that anybody is likely to find practical enough to use.

Dedicated media servers (like the Apple TV) or other components that have real media streaming/playback capabilities (like the Oppo BDP-93), connected to the Kuro through a video input, are the realistic ways to play network media. (Unless you want to look at a slideshow of your family photos....I suppose the Kuro could probably do that without much fuss. )

Media gallery is a broken feature and like prog said only thing you can do is slideshow but even that I found it to be slow and useless.

Edit: well, you can do more than slideshow but just slow and almost useless.

I had an odd thing happen with my 151 yesterday. I use the OTA tuner (no cable or Sat). One channel stopped receiving, but I could get it on other tv's. I did an update scan, still nothing. I did an install scan. Still nothing. I looked up the RF frequency and did a signal check. It was strong and of good quality, so I added it manually. It's been fine since.
.....It was there but it wouldn't scan it.

IMO, the OTA tuner has always been the most glaring and major weakness of the Kuros. I've seen this kind of thing before.

The last update addressed some of these issues last year.

I don't use mine. My 150FD had enough tuner issues!!!

Hi,

I'm a very happy owner of the 141 and am trying to figure out whats the best setup for pq once i mount it on the wall and connect it to my Denon Avr 3311ci ?

Would like to use one hdmi cable from avr to tv but am wondering if this will sacrifice pq cause i would like to calibrate individual settings for my blueray and cable box sources.

If i use a single hdmi connections how do i set individual pq settings on 141 for my video sources, cablebox, blueray, ps3, xbox, mac mini ?

Do i use the avr to set settings for each source ?

I've read that it is possible to to have two memory settings for each input on the 141. How do u do this?

Wondering how others have their 141 setup with multiple sources ?

Is the radiance vp overkill and a redundancy for the 141 ?

Anybody know of a reputable av pro to calibrate the 141 in the new york city area ?

Lastly, since i mounting the 141 on wall , ive been looking at 8-12 feet hdmi cables. I wanted to get HDMI 1.4a with ethernet so i dont have to upgrade later. Ive looked at monoprice cables and bettercables and was wondering why the huge difference in price if its all about 1 and 0? What are all guys using?

Thanks in advance for feedback.

Thanks

So I just saw that the new iPad 2 has an HDMI out and fully capable of 1080p. I wonder how this may work with our Kuros? Do you think we could stream from the iPad to the Kuro with full HD results?

Wow, that's amazing! I don't see how Apple manages to squeeze so much processing power into such thin packages! That level of video processing almost always means hot chips that need active cooling. Very impressive. For that HDMI output, they must use a Type C or Type D mini/micro connector...there's just no room for a standard Type A jack.

From Engadget:

"Beyond the slew of features that were announced moments ago for the iPad 2, one final one comes along with a peripheral itself. The iPad 2 will now allow for HDMI video out, which means that you can use the iPAd 2 as a portable video device to be plugged into an actual television. With this HDMI cable you will be able to get mirrored video output as well as a full 1080p video output, which is better than most iPad 2 rumors even concieved of.

HDMI
www.engadget.com

The real luck of this iPAd 2 HDMI feature is that it will work essentially out of the box and all the applications will also employ it, meaning that using the iPad 2 with a television may be a standard that is coming.

The iPad 2 HDMI cable is only going to run an extra $39, which is just the beginning for Apple's decision to release a slew of peripherals for the coming device."