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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I can't imagine sitting close enough to my rack/display to attach an iPad. Of course I feel the same way about attaching my laptop.

+1

For me, it falls into that very large category of CE features that are cool ideas, but not really anything I'd need or use.
post #25772 of 30263
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

The last update addressed some of these issues last year.

Thanks. I didn't realize there was a firmware update available. I updated the panel last night.
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Reddish blacks

I have been posting in the NE forum regarding this issue, and with the hopes of more eyes coming across it, am posting here as well. I have noticed, for the past few months that my panel is tinted red when displaying black. It is especially worse on the lower right hand side. There is no uniformity to the pattern. If you get very close the panel you can see little red noise similar to dithering. I upgraded to the 1353 board and this had no effect on the behavior of the panel. I had Dave Abrams of 21st century calibrate my panel with the hopes it would go away, but still no change. My panel is isf calibrated. Day, night, and every other mode continue to exhibit the problem. Forced to live with this issue, I purchased a bias light from ideal lume hoping to trick my eyes into not seeing it. This has actually had a negative effect, and for whatever reason makes the issue more pronounced to my eye. While Dave was here calibrating my set he noticed the problem as well, and suggested it may be a voltage issue. The power in the house is clean. I have changed hdmi cables, power outlets, and bought an expensive surge protector. Nothing has changed. For me letterbox movies with low APL show the issue the issue and make the movie unwatchable. The voltage issue my calibrator was suggesting referred to inside the panel. He mentioned the lower right quadrant. I do not know enough about the engineering within the panel to know if this accurate theory. It is driving me crazy. I have come across the posts of people with the same issue (Google searches) when I first started to notice. They don't have any solutions or technical reasons this may be occurring, but at a minimum let me know I wasn't seeing things. Not sure I can capture it on camera. Any ideas?

Pioneer 5020 June 2008 build.....5000 hours on the panel
post #25774 of 30263
An interesting observation, to say the least.
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Even 720P?

Yup...am I missing something in the settings that will improve that?
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New Firmware Update? I was just doing my periodic check of the support sites, and noticed they have new Pro-151 firmware dated 3/1/11. Does anyone have a change log and confirm this is a true update?

What's a little confusing is, they have obviously updated their website quite a bit, so I wonder if that's just the date the file was moved to this page? I downloaded the Zip, and while the accompanying Instructions are dated 2/23/11, the internal *.img, *.enc, and *.key files within the zip are dated 6/24/10.

Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by [Irishman] View Post

Yup...am I missing something in the settings that will improve that?

You'd have to set your source (cable or satellite box) to output 720P as 1080i to achieve dot by dot. Otherwise 720P will default to full.
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Originally Posted by mrmagloo View Post

New Firmware Update? I was just doing my periodic check of the support sites, and noticed they have new Pro-151 firmware dated 3/1/11. Does anyone have a change log and confirm this is a true update?

What's a little confusing is, they have obviously updated their website quite a bit, so I wonder if that's just the date the file was moved to this page? I downloaded the Zip, and while the accompanying Instructions are dated 2/23/11, the internal *.img, *.enc, and *.key files within the zip are dated 6/24/10.

Any ideas?

I checked the PDF instructions for a date at the bottom of the page, and it does seem new!
post #25779 of 30263
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Originally Posted by jmmesch View Post

Check the PDF instructions first for a date at the bottom of the page. It's old.

I said I DID check the PDF and the date on the bottom is 2/23/2011. That's why I'm asking.
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That's also why I changed my post and downloaded it! I don't know it's new, but someone else might.
post #25781 of 30263
On Sunday I'm going to pick up a 6020fd with an elite board installed what test beside burn in should I be doing to see of the panel is good. Also will kuro reader be able to tell me the hours of a 6020fd with elite board?

Thanks guys,
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Originally Posted by jmmesch View Post

That's also why I changed my post and downloaded it! I don't know it's new, but someone else might.

Ha - Didn't see you edit. Yeah, it would be interesting to see if we could get a change log. It's kind of weird because they do offer change logs for the rest of their A/V firmware updates - At least the SC-27 and BDP-23?
post #25783 of 30263
Spoke with the Pioneer rep. The new firmware is for tuner adjustment. Apparently the OTA tuner would lock up, and the previous firmware didn't completely resolve the issue, which necessitated the 03/01/11 firmware update.
post #25784 of 30263
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Spoke with the Pioneer rep. The new firmware is for tuner adjustment. Apparently the OTA tuner would lock up, and the previous firmware didn't completely resolve the issue, which necessitated the 03/01/11 firmware update.

If you're not running into any issues, would you recommend the update?? or, just wait until such an issue raises it's ugly head?? Thx!
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Originally Posted by mrmagloo View Post
If you're not running into any issues, would you recommend the update?? or, just wait until such an issue raises it's ugly head?? Thx!
I never update unless I have to.
post #25786 of 30263
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Originally Posted by mrmagloo View Post
If you're not running into any issues, would you recommend the update?? or, just wait until such an issue raises it's ugly head?? Thx!
If indeed this is just an OTA tuner bug fix, there would be no benefit to updating if you don't use the tuner.

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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post
I never update unless I have to.
Same here. I've never used the tuners in my Kuros and don't intend to, so I have no interest in tuner bugs and fixes.
post #25787 of 30263
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post
Thanks for the information about Roman. I bought our Kuro from him before he opened his own store.
I also purchased my PRO-151 from Roman (after you encouraged me to do so, htwaits) and it was a smooth transaction with a very savvy guy at an unbelievable price. The KURO is absolutely, positively the best purchase I've ever made and like others I'm hoping it will last a very long time.
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

You'd have to set your source (cable or satellite box) to output 720P as 1080i to achieve dot by dot. Otherwise 720P will default to full.

OTA and Blu-ray all the way.
post #25789 of 30263
5 days till my 151fd arrive at my door
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Originally Posted by NY613 View Post

5 days till my 151fd arrive at my door

10 hour until my 6020fd arrives
post #25791 of 30263
is it possible to still purchase a kuro if so from where i need another set for my other bedroom
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Originally Posted by hugo_2_9 View Post

is it possible to still purchase a kuro if so from where i need another set for my other bedroom

are you in canada or US
post #25793 of 30263
I would like to know too.

I have a brand new in box 101FD that I bought a couple months ago that I still have never opened, considering it an investment. One sold on eBay for $5500 about a week ago, much more than I paid. I wish I would have bought more! Should I sell, are the 2011 Panasonic/Samsungs going to de-value my investment? :-)
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Originally Posted by CFX View Post

I would like to know too.

I have a brand new in box 101FD that I bought a couple months ago that I still have never opened, considering it an investment. One sold on eBay for $5500 about a week ago, much more than I paid. I wish I would have bought more! Should I sell, are the 2011 Panasonic/Samsungs going to de-value my investment? :-)

You can sell it to me However there is no way I would pay $5500 for a 101FD. IMO, its not worth anything near that amount.
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

You can sell it to me However there is no way I would pay $5500 for a 101FD. IMO, its not worth anything near that amount.

That's what I thought until I did a search of completed listings on eBay. All it takes is one person willing to pay that amount. I certainly wouldn't. I thought at most I could sell it for was $3000 but there are some videophiles out there that would gladly pony up the cash for the best.
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

You can sell it to me However there is no way I would pay $5500 for a 101FD. IMO, its not worth anything near that amount.

BY the way D-Nice, I'm enjoy the crap out of the 151FD you calibrated for me. At first I thought the picture was a little dim but after spending a few weeks with the ISF night setting, there is definitely more detail and a natural looking picture than some of the preset settings that come with the TV. If I decide to keep the 101FD I may give you another call.
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Originally Posted by CFX View Post

BY the way D-Nice, I'm enjoy the crap out of the 151FD you calibrated for me. At first I thought the picture was a little dim but after spending a few weeks with the ISF night setting, there is definitely more detail and a natural looking picture than some of the preset settings that come with the TV. If I decide to keep the 101FD I may give you another call.

Glad to hear you are enjoying the 151. Just let me know what you decide to do with the 101
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

You can sell it to me However there is no way I would pay $5500 for a 101FD. IMO, its not worth anything near that amount.

You are really starting to make me nervous the way you are snapping up all these pioneers around here. Like you know something about what the future holds as far as plasma is concerned.
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Originally Posted by calvin35 View Post

You are really starting to make me nervous the way you are snapping up all these pioneers around here. Like you know something about what the future holds as far as plasma is concerned.

I have yet to finalize a deal. I'm looking for a 5020, 111, 500M or 101FD. The 5020 will replace a 4280 and either of the others will exclusively be used as the reference display for my reviews (I no longer want to use any of my main displays for reviews as I will have a dedicated room for display reviews).
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I have yet to finalize a deal. I'm looking for a 5020, 111, 500M or 101FD. The 5020 will replace a 4280 and either of the others will exclusively be used as the reference display for my reviews (I no longer want to use any of my main displays for reviews as I will have a dedicated room for display reviews).

Thank you for putting my mind at ease.
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