The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 866

Originally Posted by Sonyboy

I had pure mode calibrated on my 500m about 6 months before I installed the ISF patch. After having isf day and night professionally calibrated, I still love pure mode. Isf night is very close and I use it quite often, but pure mode is just an incredibly accurate mode. Once you get accustomed to it, it's hard not to love it.

Originally Posted by Sonyboy

I had pure mode calibrated on my 500m about 6 months before I installed the ISF patch. After having isf day and night professionally calibrated, I still love pure mode. Isf night is very close and I use it quite often, but pure mode is just an incredibly accurate mode. Once you get accustomed to it, it's hard not to love it.

Originally Posted by blb1215

I have a 600M - patched and calibrated pure, isf day and isf night charts all look extremely accurate. The only difference I can tell is the light output for each mode. Is there anything else that is different between Pure mode and the ISF modes calibrated? Do the ISF modes add anything that could or should be noticeable as far as not being as "pure" as Pure Mode? Is the calibrated Pure Mode technically the most accurate?

Thanks,
Barry

Originally Posted by trem0lo

My eyes see a number of differences between Pure and ISF that cause me to prefer the latter. I use D-Nice's settings so keep that in mind...

Light output is obviously better. ISF Day has bright bright whites whereas Pure's are more subdued. ISF Night is dimmer than Pure but movies look fantastic in the dark. More cinematic in my opinion.

Black levels are just a teensy bit better on the ISF modes. This is probably not an issue with a pro calibration.

The overall image with ISF looks sharper to my eye.

Shadow detail is improved with a better sense of overall depth.

Originally Posted by Mac13

I have a 500M and have always considered getting it calibrated because I have heard numerous people talk about how awesome the ISF modes are but I just have a hard time justifying the $300-400 when it already looks really good. I'm sure it would look better and I am curious to how it would look afterwards but it looks great now. Looking at a couple of these recent posts, it appears some people still like Pure mode over ISF so that makes me wonder if I should bother spending the money to get it calibrated. I am looking to get a bigger screen for my dedicated HT room so I feel like it would probably be better money spent to put the money I would use on calibrating the 500M and get a nicer tv for the HT room. I love my 500M but it is too small for a HT room. I wish I could get a 60" or 65" plasma just like the 500M . I guess I will just have to check out the top models of the other brands once the time comes to purchase a new larger TV.

On another note, before I got my 500M I had a 5020 (sold it to my Dad once I got the 500M ). Out of the box the 5020 was sort of yellowish (especially the whites). Being able to adjust the temperature would have fixed this but the 5020 did not have this capability so I decided to spend the money to get the set calibrated because I was disappointed with the colors of the TV. D-Nice calibrated the set and it looked awesome after he got done so I know how much calibrating a TV can help. I think a lot of this is due to the fact that the 5020 wasn't very accurate out of the box though and my 500M in Pure mode seems really good already so I don't know if I would notice as much of a difference.

Originally Posted by trem0lo

My eyes see a number of differences between Pure and ISF that cause me to prefer the latter. I use D-Nice's settings so keep that in mind...

Light output is obviously better. ISF Day has bright bright whites whereas Pure's are more subdued. ISF Night is dimmer than Pure but movies look fantastic in the dark. More cinematic in my opinion.

Black levels are just a teensy bit better on the ISF modes. This is probably not an issue with a pro calibration.

The overall image with ISF looks sharper to my eye.

Shadow detail is improved with a better sense of overall depth.

Originally Posted by Mac13

I have a 500M and have always considered getting it calibrated because I have heard numerous people talk about how awesome the ISF modes are but I just have a hard time justifying the $300-400 when it already looks really good. I'm sure it would look better and I am curious to how it would look afterwards but it looks great now. Looking at a couple of these recent posts, it appears some people still like Pure mode over ISF so that makes me wonder if I should bother spending the money to get it calibrated. I am looking to get a bigger screen for my dedicated HT room so I feel like it would probably be better money spent to put the money I would use on calibrating the 500M and get a nicer tv for the HT room. I love my 500M but it is too small for a HT room. I wish I could get a 60" or 65" plasma just like the 500M . I guess I will just have to check out the top models of the other brands once the time comes to purchase a new larger TV.

On another note, before I got my 500M I had a 5020 (sold it to my Dad once I got the 500M ). Out of the box the 5020 was sort of yellowish (especially the whites). Being able to adjust the temperature would have fixed this but the 5020 did not have this capability so I decided to spend the money to get the set calibrated because I was disappointed with the colors of the TV. D-Nice calibrated the set and it looked awesome after he got done so I know how much calibrating a TV can help. I think a lot of this is due to the fact that the 5020 wasn't very accurate out of the box though and my 500M in Pure mode seems really good already so I don't know if I would notice as much of a difference.

Originally Posted by mark_b

In terms of brightness, how does it compare with Optimum or Performance? Are those mose brighter then ISF-Day or is ISF-Day brighter then them?

Originally Posted by blb1215

I have a 600M - patched and calibrated pure, isf day and isf night charts all look extremely accurate. The only difference I can tell is the light output for each mode. Is there anything else that is different between Pure mode and the ISF modes calibrated? Do the ISF modes add anything that could or should be noticeable as far as not being as "pure" as Pure Mode? Is the calibrated Pure Mode technically the most accurate?

Thanks,
Barry

Originally Posted by lakinsdad

I have a Panasonic VT30 on pre order and am selling my 500m.

Originally Posted by lakinsdad

Anyone interested in a used KRP 500m? I have a Panasonic VT30 on pre order and am selling my 500m. It has been calibrated by d nice and looks marvelous.

Originally Posted by lakinsdad

Here is a pic

Originally Posted by lakinsdad

Anyone interested in a used KRP 500m? I have a Panasonic VT30 on pre order and am selling my 500m. It has been calibrated by d nice and looks marvelous.

Originally Posted by Mac13

So you didn't have your set professionally calibrated? You just unlocked the ISF modes yourself and used D-Nice's settings? I have thought about doing that but figured I would get the best results from the ISF modes if I had it calibrated.

Originally Posted by mark_b

How did you unlock the ISF modes by yourself?

Originally Posted by mark_b

In terms of brightness, how does it compare with Optimum or Performance? Are those mose brighter then ISF-Day or is ISF-Day brighter then them?

Originally Posted by trem0lo

Nope, I did the break-in as per D-Nice's instructions and applied his reference settings for Pure and ISF Day/Night. It may not be a perfect calibration but it looks pretty darn good to my eyes.



I used KuroControl. It's a free program that basically tricks the KRP into thinking it's a Euro model (which actually shipped with ISF modes). It uses the network interface so the easiest way is to plug a standard network cable from your router to the panel and run the program. You can activate up to three ISF memories (Day/Night/Auto) for each input and adjust picture settings right from the program. If you are decently capable with computers it's pretty easy to figure out. There's a good thread somewhere if you do a search.



ISF Day is as bright as you need it to be. It's just a professional "template" that offers more adjustability than other modes. D-Nice's settings for ISF Day result in a brighter Pure mode on steroids, basically. Optimum and Performance are a bit brighter still.

Originally Posted by Mac13

You said you used KuroControl through the network interface.

Originally Posted by Mac13

You said you used KuroControl through the network interface. Is this ControlCal or something different? I thought the only way to do this was through ControlCal and I was thinking that had to be done with a serial cable. I have been happy with my 500M and have been focused on setting up all of my new audio equipment but I am about through with that so I need something else to tinker with so I am heavily considering unlocking the ISF modes on my 500M

Originally Posted by AuralXTC

WHY!?!?!

Originally Posted by jyqureshi

VT30 is absolutely worth over the 500m..............NOT!

BTW, Strawberry Shortcake looks amazing on my 101fd too

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Wow, with all the flurry of new posts in the discussion thread that I've missed in the past few days, you'd think this was still an active set of models.

Originally Posted by calvin35

Damn these Kuros get dark!!! That is all.