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post #271 of 30278
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

In regards to the dirty screen effect...wouldn't it be hard to determine the truth of this if the picture was taken while the break-in DVD was playing? I played the DVD in my 5060 to test and it looked the same, IMO.


The break-in DVD was playing at that time.

You stated that it looked the same on your 5060. Can you see that effect with "regular" video content?
post #272 of 30278
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I wonder if that does make a difference. I have a Panamax, Monster daisy-chain and have no buzz.


I'm running a panamax as well. I would also assume that the 60 in. screens are more likely to buzz than the 50's.
post #273 of 30278
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I wonder if that does make a difference. I have a Panamax, Monster daisy-chain and have no buzz.

what is a daisy-chain?
post #274 of 30278
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Originally Posted by Thebarnman View Post

The break-in DVD was playing at that time.

You stated that it looked the same on your 5060. Can you see that effect with "regular" video content?

Nope. Loved the picture of the 5060 except for the black levels.
post #275 of 30278
He means that he has the Monster power conditioner plugged into the Panamax power conditioner; or visa versa - panamax plugged into the monster.
post #276 of 30278
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Originally Posted by jlaavenger View Post

what is a daisy-chain?

Linked together. One plugged into the other.
post #277 of 30278
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Originally Posted by FocusedOne View Post

I remember reading that 2 of the reds on the break-in DVD are the same.

1. Is this a problem?

2. Is this possible issue resolved by using the break-in images via USB (did evangelo revise the slides contained in the USB set)?

Has anyone determined if the USB version works with the latest version of Home Media Gallery? Does it leave a blue ring around the pics?
post #278 of 30278
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

My 1150 has no blotching and its' buzzing is no louder than the Sammy 5044 and 5084 sets I owned previously.

Thebarnman...can you see it while watching normal content?

I've only had the chance to view the 151FD with real video (hooked up to the DirecTV DVR via HDMI) for about 20 seconds. Then it was right back to the break-in DVD.

At that time, I could not see any problems. I don't think I'll notice it too often or maybe only once in a great great while. What little I did see, it was some of the best video reproduction I've ever seen.

After the break-in time is done (late Monday night) I'll be looking at regular video to see if it shows up or if I'm able to notice it at all.
post #279 of 30278
dbgrayson, using USB indeed DOES work. That's how I am currently doing the break-in.
post #280 of 30278
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Originally Posted by FocusedOne View Post

I remember reading that 2 of the reds on the break-in DVD are the same.

1. Is this a problem?

2. Is this possible issue resolved by using the break-in images via USB (did evangelo revise the slides contained in the USB set)?

This was mentioned wneh the first jpegs for the usb were released. It may be fixed now for usb. It was not the dvd.
post #281 of 30278
Thebarnman,

Just got back from BB. They scooped Tweeters' price and gave me 24mos. no interest and reward points. Too hard to pass up.

Delivery 6-24
post #282 of 30278
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Originally Posted by hamsamish09 View Post

Thebarnman,

Just got back from CC. They scooped Tweeters' price and gave me 24mos. no interest and reward points. Too hard to pass up.

Delivery 6-24

CC sells Elites?????


bob
post #283 of 30278
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Originally Posted by surap View Post

The remedy is heavy drapes or other sound absorbing material behind the plasma. It really helped me. If you place the drapes adjacent to the plasma you prevent the high buzzing sound to "bounce" further out in the room.

May help with the rear buzz, but the issue for most people is the buzz emanating from the front of glass.
The increased sound absorption may assist in making the room a bit less reflective which might help, but since there is not any diffusion or absorption in the actual path of the buzz-it does little.
It is what it is. As D-Nice says it is inherent in the design, and if this will really bother you then plasma and PIO especially may not be the ticket for you.
post #284 of 30278
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Originally Posted by hamsamish09 View Post

Thebarnman,

Just got back from CC. They scooped Tweeters' price and gave me 24mos. no interest and reward points. Too hard to pass up.

Delivery 6-24

CC as in Circuit City? Since when do they carry Pioneer plasmas?
post #285 of 30278
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Originally Posted by FocusedOne View Post

I'm running a panamax as well. I would also assume that the 60 in. screens are more likely to buzz than the 50's.

In the 8G buzz thread there really was not a correlation with your power source, filters, conditioners, etc. helping at all.
That may not always be the case if you have especially dirty current or unusual EMI/RFI issues, but generally it does not help.

The PIO is what it is. Nothing is perfect, especially a HDTV of any make or model.
post #286 of 30278
Sorry....BB Excitement got to me.


Question ...Is the buzz associated with 8g's on...my 7g has no perceptible buzz anywhere but it is only 768p.
post #287 of 30278
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Originally Posted by hamsamish09 View Post

Thebarnman,

Just got back from BB. They scooped Tweeters' price and gave me 24mos. no interest and reward points. Too hard to pass up.

Delivery 6-24


Best Buy? Or Circuit City?

Which model??? 151???
post #288 of 30278
151...@bb
post #289 of 30278
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Originally Posted by FocusedOne View Post

Alright, I picked up the new 151FD, set it up, and went straight for the break-in DVD. I just got done examining the screen through many different color sequences and am absolutely ecstatic to report that I am now the proud owner of a pixel-perfect Kuro! I am so relieved and feel like all of my efforts were well worth it. The dead pixels on my old unit were glaring and right in the middle of the screen. I'm elated!

I'm so very happy for you! Now, go kiss and make up with your store. Even
though they complained and such... at least you got further with them than
many others did with their own store. Happy TV watching!
post #290 of 30278
Thread Starter 
Thebarnman,

You crack me up. That was great. I would have loved to be in the truck when they left and hear what they had to say.

When I came home with the 151 and started unpacking it and started taking pics. My wife started laughing and thought I was crazy. So I could only imagine what they were thinking.
post #291 of 30278
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Originally Posted by FocusedOne View Post

There are also two additional noise reduction settings on the 151 - Block NR and Mosquito NR. Should I turn those off as well?

Thanks for asking that. I was wondering about that too. I'll check later on to see how mine are set up.
post #292 of 30278
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Originally Posted by Aetherhole View Post

Really? I thought so far that only one person said the buzz was pretty bad and I think that was chad.

Those of us with some kind of buzzing really have not complained about it. In fact, mine is ONLY noticeable (I feel like a broken record) when there is a completely white screen and it's hardly even noticeable with that. Mind you, that's with a bright, bright white screen. A less intense white (slightly grayer) doesn't make the panel buzz.

A broken record? Me too! That's pretty much the same for me, however with mine, the center of the screen is a tiny bit higher then were my head normally is (if I'm RIGHT DEAD CENTER) of the screen. I can move and or turn my head less then a few inches and it pretty much goes away. I think most of the buzz goes over my head, and the buzz being in such a tiny spot, it's acually hard to run into it. If the screen was just a little bit lower, it might be different. It's not the my screen is very high from my sitting position, it's just that the center of the screen is just slightly higher than my head.

99.9% of the time I can't hear or even notice it.
post #293 of 30278
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

Nope. Loved the picture of the 5060 except for the black levels.

Well then, it looks like I probably have a perfect display! Now I've got to keep my fingers crossed when umr comes to calabrate with the Color Space 2 setting and if it will work correctly or not.
post #294 of 30278
I posted this in the other thread, but here it goes:

I picked up my Pioneer 111 earlier today from Best Buy, and after transporting it to my house, transporting my old TV (a 30" Toshiba 1080i CRT, which had AWFUL black crush) to my sister's house, and playing around with the 111 for an hour or so before running the break in (off the home media center), I have my initial observations:

Buzzing:
No buzzing at all. Maybe my hearing is bad, but I'm 28, and I think I have decent hearing. Maybe I don't know what I'm supposed to hear, but I'm not hearing it. Awesome.

Stuck pixels:
None. I've searched, not super closely because I don't want to find one, but I haven't spotted any while running the break in disc, even on the white scenes.

Picture quality:
The picture looks excellent! Beyond my expectations. I was watching Planet Earth on Blu-ray, and there are scenes where there are dark darks (views of the ocean, etc.), and those totally blended in with the bezel. Ditto on the few minutes of widescreen movies I watched. I have noticed that now I wish my viewing distance was a bit better (I sit about 7 or 8 feet away), since my cable HD feed looks nowhere near as good as the Blu-ray discs, when my old TV didn't show such a drastic difference. Standard definition looks quite good, too. I haven't watched any regular DVDs yet, but I will experiment tomorrow.

Sound:
This set sounds awesome. I don't have a surround sound set-up yet, nor do I plan to get one for another 6 months or so (not because of cost but because my place is too small anyway), but this will definitely tide me over.

A/V Options:
So far, I think Movie mode looks best. Pure mode seems to give the picture a softer quality, which I'm not especially fond of. Again, I only watched about an hour of programming so far, so it's hard to tell. Also, is there something I need to do to set the TV to ColorSpace2?

Overall:
I'm loving the TV so far. It's like having a movie theatre in my living room!
post #295 of 30278
I said it in the other thread, too, Congrats on the new set, El Bandito!
post #296 of 30278
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Originally Posted by El Bandito View Post

I posted this in the other thread, but here it goes:

I picked up my Pioneer 111 earlier today from Best Buy, and after transporting it to my house, transporting my old TV (a 30" Toshiba 1080i CRT, which had AWFUL black crush) to my sister's house, and playing around with the 111 for an hour or so before running the break in (off the home media center), I have my initial observations:

Buzzing:
No buzzing at all. Maybe my hearing is bad, but I'm 28, and I think I have decent hearing. Maybe I don't know what I'm supposed to hear, but I'm not hearing it. Awesome.

Stuck pixels:
None. I've searched, not super closely because I don't want to find one, but I haven't spotted any while running the break in disc, even on the white scenes.

Picture quality:
The picture looks excellent! Beyond my expectations. I was watching Planet Earth on Blu-ray, and there are scenes where there are dark darks (views of the ocean, etc.), and those totally blended in with the bezel. Ditto on the few minutes of widescreen movies I watched. I have noticed that now I wish my viewing distance was a bit better (I sit about 7 or 8 feet away), since my cable HD feed looks nowhere near as good as the Blu-ray discs, when my old TV didn't show such a drastic difference. Standard definition looks quite good, too. I haven't watched any regular DVDs yet, but I will experiment tomorrow.

Sound:
This set sounds awesome. I don't have a surround sound set-up yet, nor do I plan to get one for another 6 months or so (not because of cost but because my place is too small anyway), but this will definitely tide me over.

A/V Options:
So far, I think Movie mode looks best. Pure mode seems to give the picture a softer quality, which I'm not especially fond of. Again, I only watched about an hour of programming so far, so it's hard to tell. Also, is there something I need to do to set the TV to ColorSpace2?

Overall:
I'm loving the TV so far. It's like having a movie theatre in my living room!

Congrats on being one of the first to take possession of and review the 111.

Now I just have to refrain from pulling my hair out during the wait for mine. Fortunately, I can take solace in the fact that I have to take a trip to New York for the weekend, beginning tomorrow, so I won't have much time to wring my hands for the next few days. Next week is another story.
post #297 of 30278
Thanks, guys. I'm going out of town this weekend, so luckily I won't have to worry about the break-in interfering with my regular TV watching!
post #298 of 30278
Lucky you! I wish my wife would go out of town for the weekend so I could run the Break-in DVD continuously.

On the morning after we got the TV she asked, "Can you turn the TV off while your gone at work? It's bright and I don't want it blaring in my face all day."



I figure, I can get roughly 8 hours a night plus a few hours after I get home, so I think I can average 10-12 hours per day for the break-in. So at this rate a week and a half from now I will stop running my Break-In DVD and be able to sit and enjoy the TV!
post #299 of 30278
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Originally Posted by LKDog View Post

In the 8G buzz thread there really was not a correlation with your power source, filters, conditioners, etc. helping at all.
That may not always be the case if you have especially dirty current or unusual EMI/RFI issues, but generally it does not help.

The PIO is what it is. Nothing is perfect, especially a HDTV of any make or model.

Well one thing to consider is elimination of all the variables. I believe it was stated the 9G had a new power supply to eliminate/reduce that source of buzzing. If the 8G buzz thread stated power and power conditioning did not effect the buzz, possibly it didn't effect the "power supply" buzz, but it might have effected the "screen buzz"....... but because of the power supply buzz, it was thought to have no or minimal effect.

It was stated a few posts ago that unplugging the unit from the Panamax increased the screen buzz. Since the 9G has a new power supply, maybe clean power does effect the screen buzz. My Pioneer is a few generations old (going in the bedroom when I get the Signature), and is plugged into a Brickwall... no buzzing. This has to be frustrating as hell to those that actually experience it.

John
post #300 of 30278
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Originally Posted by hamsamish09 View Post

Thebarnman,

Just got back from BB. They scooped Tweeters' price and gave me 24mos. no interest and reward points. Too hard to pass up.

Delivery 6-24


That's great! Only 5 days away from this posting!!!

I'm sure you'll be breaking it in. Do you plan to use it straight thorough like last time? At least I think you used it straight through.

And once done, is there anything in particularly that you want to check out to show off your new display?

Sometimes I'll watch a movie, or go to selected scenes of movies with which I'm familiar.
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