The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 912

I downloaded control cal..donated to activate ..but my control cal program says Mitsubishi projector...so what did i do wrong?..i see no power on in the control cal program as there is in the demo screen on their guide!

any help would be appreciated..version 1.50 seems to be the only one downloadable

Hi all, its been a while since I posted here. But now I have a question for you Kuro experts.

Until I updated my BD player's firmware this week-end, I could read 1080p 36bit in the top right corner of the screen when I pressed the Display buton on my Kuro's remote. The frimware update for my BD player added an option called HDMI Deep Colour: off/30bit/36bit. So I promptly selected the 36bit option and loaded up Avatar to see if it did anything to the picture. Well, everything looks smoother, less dithering. Overall I'd say the image looks softer without sacrificing any contrast. If anything the screen has even more pop. And the colours look richer. But now when I press the Display buton on the remote, all I see is 1080p. What gives?

BTW, my set has not been calibrated but I did follow DNice's burn-in procedure to a T and I use his reference Pure mode settings.

You should post this on the ControlCal forum.

The player stopped sending 36-bit data, you stopped passing it (e.g. in the AVR) or (much less likely) the player firmware update broke your display.

That would be really dumb. Publish an update that adds the option of 36bit output only to have the device stop outputing 36bit colour once said option is selected. The irony being this same device was outputing 36bit colour in the first place?!

BTW the player is hooked up to the tv set, I don't have a receiver.

What make and model player did you update? I recently updated my Pioneer 05 player and had to go into it's menu and reselect the setting that transmitted the 36 bit info.

I have a Cambridge Audio 650BD. I just installed the 650BDCU-09-1112 firmware update. What's really weird is that the update added the 36bit option in the menu. It wasn't there before. Of course I selected it but now the tv says its not seing it. Whereas before the update, my 650BD didn't have this option in its menus but the tv said it was receiving 36bit colour. What a mess.

Is there any setting on the plasma that you can select? Perhaps the display's HDMI settings were reset. Sorry, I'm not one of the super knowledgable posters, just trying to help.

Hey, I'll take all the help I can get! Thanks for trying. You know whats even more confusing? The tv used to show 36bit in its info bar no matter what source was being displayed. I'm prety sure my DVR does not output 36bit colour. And now the tv never shows 36bit in the info bar no mater the source either. And to top it off, I swear the image quality is better than before the update. If thats the case, I guess some of you would tell me to chill and enjoy a good movie. And you'd have a point too. But I'm just curious about the way my gear behaves. A few years down the line, I might have to fiddle with these settings and you all might not be around to help so I better soak up the wisdom while its here.

There are multiple ways your display will show 36bit. Deep Color is one way. 4:4:4 color via HDMI 1.3 is another. However, the best signal type to send your display is RGB 16-235 with Deep Color Off. Anything beyond that is not ideal.

OK, so once I've set-up my BD player to send an RGB 16-235 signal with deep colour OFF, I guess I have to set the tv to receive such a signal?

Only if you own one of the monitors.

I ill try thos on my 151. Would it be ideal on my 6010 as well?

^^^nevermind. Doesnt look like the 6010 has that option

Niether the 151FD nor the 6010FD is a monitor

Oops

Is the kuro really sending 36bit color? I always see it when i start up my PS3.

How can a display (Kuro or not) "send" anything?

is the Harmony 300i the same remote?

Perhaps he meant displaying. ;-)

I believe so. I think the only difference is the external finish.

You know what i mean.

Bluray is limited to 8bit so i was wondering how does the kuro achieve 36bit color.

Quick recap on 36bit colour. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

1) Deep Colour always causes cliping.

2) Regarding image accuracy 36bit colour is not desirable.

3) RGB 16-235 is not 36bits

4) Not seeing 36bit in the top-right corner of my set is a good thing.

I could be wrong but I think it goes 8:8:8:12 = R/G/B/GAMMA

Think upcoverting DVD players or frame interpolation. Basically making up stuff that never existed in the source.

Ok, need some ideas. Tried to ger rid of the 36 bit on tv by goung to 4:2:2 and the black turned purple. Did i miss sonething?

I went to setup...option...hdmi input...video color-2

I mean color-1

That means your source equipment is sending a 4:4:4 signal. You need to change your source color output.... if you can.

I think i narrowed it down to the marvell qdeo in my sc-57. With it on i guess it forces the deep color. When its off its fine. What are youre thoughts on the marvell in my video chain?

3 is correct in the most common sense, the rest are wrong. It's not that hard to do a bit of research about these things.