The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 936

Had my Pro-111 in storage for 8 months also due to moving and renos etc. Set it up and turned it on and it had a above normal buzzing sound that I did not like. I said oh no I have a buzzer panel but it never buzzed like this before.

However, the good news is that it went away after a week of normal viewing. Maybe if these panels are not used theres a build up of static electricity or dust or something. Hopefully your buzzing will go away with normal viewing use.
Edited by Edllguy - 2/6/13 at 6:53pm

Thanks for the reply. I'd be nice if some others could chime in with similar experiences so that I can feel better about the prospect of this going away, but I feel hopeful now, at least. Man, this sucker is loud for the time being, though.
Edited by Traxion - 2/7/13 at 10:24am

I have a couple questions I hope u guys can help me answer. More just checking to see if these things are normal or if possibly something is wrong with my set.

I have the elite 151fd and was watching a movie using the ps3, while the movie was playing someone switched the main breaker off. When I went back to the TV everything was shut off except the pioneer, is this normal? I thought it was weird the TV was still powered on and was wondering if any damage might have been done?

Also one other thing, I noticed after watching a movie on the ps3 then turning off the ps3 the screen goes black but not a complete black more like a faint black for about 50 seconds then the screen goes completely black as if the TV is not even turned on its so dark, is that normal? Why does it take 50 seconds for the screen to go completely black after viewing a movie on the ps3?
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
Edited by Dust Bubble - 2/11/13 at 11:59am

^As for the second question, the panel does take some time to go into a lower power standby mode when no input is received (where the screen simply shuts off). I can't remember how long it takes before this occurs, but that is normal behavior.

Is the Kuro on an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS)? That is the only way I could explain it still playing if the main breaker was truly turned off. Is it possible that the breaker only turned off some of the circuits in your home and the set was on a different circuit?

Whatever the case, no harm should have been done. Turning a breaker off is the same as turning off the power switch. The only possible danger is when switching the breaker back on. There could be a very brief power surge but modern electronics should handle that OK.

Hi,

It's certainly not the Ydrive. Any power supply problems issues from any power supply component are red led blinking error codes. And are called power downs (PD) in Kuro service manuals and factory/service menus.

Blue led blinking error codes are called shut downs (SD)... And the same again. You would be wasting time and money buying a replacement y assy. As if it was that, the indication would be red error code seven blinks, pause, then same again.

Blue 8 times points to (Panel main IIC communication), which could be a number of things. Tuner being one of them like has been mentioned. But the factory menu within the tv will point to a specific error/fault - and will tell you or a tech exactly what the problem is.

I have been a long time lurker, but I rarely ever post. Most of the time I like to browse the site to gain knowledge from the passionate enthusiasts that post here. I have a question regarding my pro-111fd. What are the specifications to the headphone out jack? More specifically, can it output surround to hifi quality headphones, and what is the power output of the jack itself- would I need to purchase a headphone amp to drive power hungry headphones? I am thinking about purchasing high end headphones so I can turn up the volume without upsetting the wife. I am not running it through a receiver as this is my bedroom tv. Thanks in advance.

Hey I have a chance to grab a 5010 pioneer 8G unit...1300$ cash...its local...TV has about 6000 hours on it. You think that's a good deal?! Or should I wait for one of these 60 series pannys?

I say you should wait.

Amazing 28058  that many post on a TV that went extinct over five years ago, wished I picked one up as I remember how good it was. Instead I went the JVC-DLA projector route and am enjoying 10 feet wide screen :)

 

Now I am just waiting for OLED, to be in the US!

 

The new 2013 Panasonic Plasma 65ZT60 looks quite good. I think it might finally dethrone the Kuro, only time will tell

Way too much IMO, considering it's an 8G unit and 6000 hours is quite a lot!

I got my KRP-500 with a couple of hundred hours on it (was display model) for around $1000 in a closeout deal, I say keep looking till you get a better deal or get a new Panasonic which I'd imagine they would be pretty close PQ wise to an 8G unit if they can't match the 9G just yet.

I concur the price is too steep, I picked up a 151 for $ 1,900 with just under 3k hours on it about 6 months ago and I’m up in Canada where the cost of these sets was at a higher price point then what you guys were able to get them for in the states.

Thanks Stu,
Still searching and reading on this site. Shop Jimmy is sending out another main board just in case the first board was bad. I have the original remote but from my reading I still do not know how to get to the factory menu that will point to a specific error/fault.

My tech was a good guy with experience but was lost on this plasma. The pioneer tech will only work with parts from the pioneer parts center and that puts them out of my price range. Will try the new main board in the next two days.

Had the television on continuous the last two days but turned it off last night and it will not turn on today.
Thank you for you help! If you can think of anything else it would be greatly appreciated. I'll post back in a couple of days. About the same time the y board will be back at the parts store:)

Hi all!

I'm the lucky new owner of a used 6020FD, however the TV didn't come with the Pioneer stand and the part appears to be out of stock through the manufacturer.

I've looked at table-top stands that support 60" displays and I'm wondering, based on your experience, your thoughts on these stands?

http://www.standsandmounts.com/CrimsonUniversalTabletopPedestal-DS55.aspx
(preferred because of the price, but only rated to 55")

http://www.standsandmounts.com/hwilsoncommercialtabletoppedestal-wpsms20ch.aspx

Or maybe you have a better solution? I'd really appreciate any advice. Thanks!!

Check eBay...they have a couple for sale there.

Thanks for the tip -- I'm not 100% sure what to search for, would you mind sending me the phrase you used or a link?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=pioneer+kuro+table+top+stands&_sacat=0&_from=R40

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=pioneer kuro table top stand&_fscr=1

Congrats on your new Kuro! Stands can be tough to find for the 60" Kuro, especially depending on if you want to use the bottom speaker or not. I would suggest to wall mount it if you can.

Have you considered or heard about doing the E-Lite conversion to your 6020 to turn it into an Elite? If you or anyone else is interested I currently have a limited amount of modified AWW1352 boards available for the E-Lite conversion, PM me for more info.

Or you could buy a brand new Panasonic Plasma 55ST50 for less than $1300.

Kuro's are getting old, so whats the point in buying a old used Kuro, unless all you can spend is $200 or $300. Yes when the 9G Kuro was new it was a Great TV, but age is catching up and there for a good possibility of PQ not being what it once was and then there is the repairs or the recycling center.

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Kuros are old yes. But in age not PQ. That's why people still want to buy them.

Picture quality-wise...I would take a Panasonic VT50 over a Pioneer 5010, but not over a Pioneer 5020.

I would also be a little leary with buying a 5-6 yr old display.

+1

Your right i could and get IR...banding...descent blacks..non uniform screen...and everything else that I've read about every 50 series. So the pannys maybe be better but they have terrible build quality and are all about quantity not quality. So Im all set with the 50 series even the vt50 looked bad to me compared to a KURO. It was blurry lacked depth and "wow" factor. It was nice but not even in the same league as a kuro. People need to just stop comparing and saying panny will catch up because they won't. KURO is the last of the best everything else will always be second to them. They are just made....well better. No wonder you pay such a high premium for a KURO cuz there are barely any issues with them. Nothing from the 50 series panasonics made me even wonder what the 60 series would bring because they can't even have a fully functional tv without any serious issues

You seem to be confusing the 5010 (8th Gen) with a 5020 (9th Gen).

The Panasonic VT50 has surpassed the 8G Pioneer, which is a good thing.

You ask for advice/opinion, and when you don't hear what you want to hear, you get upset. That's a good way to get yourself put on everyone's ignore list.

I wasn't upset I was just stating facts about the VT50 and the whole 50 series itself is very buggy...not very polished at all. Even if the VT50 surpasses the 8G it doesn't surpass it's quality is what I was saying. Not anger at all just saying what I have seen and red in these forums and at the stores. I enjoy and appreciate everyone's help and this forum site is the best!! It what got me to push some extra cash for a Pioneer...very happy 5020 owner. The VT50 is so far from the 5020 IMO it just makes me scratch my head sometimes. The KUROS are just simply outstanding. I have other brands like Samsung never owned Panny though. It scares the crap out of me when I see the endless IR and banding complaints.

And I'm not new to Pioneer and know all differences of units and gens

Not as much as most here but everyone here has helped give me knowledge and understanding of the plasma market. Thank god I'm not a LCD guy anymore that RIP 5 years ago then i purchased my 5020 and it was all over for me. I just breeze last anything that says LCD or LED.

Let me ask you this, would you buy a 50" used Kuro 5010 for more money than you could get a new 55" ST50 for??? Also consider the fact that you can now view real 3D movies plus a bunch of other stuff.

The Panisonic 2012 Plasma have pretty much the same complaints as was the Old 8 and 9G Kuro's. I should know because I had two 8G Kuros (5010 and 150) I also had a 9G Kuro 141 and followed the posts on these TV's.
The 5010 that I sold cheap, the guy that got it had a problem about 3 months later that would have cost him $650 to fix, Pioneer did fix it because it was still under warranty. The 150 I don't know if its still going or not, the 141 I sold for $1000 because it was out of warranty and as it aged it was developing a blue push, the guy that got it sold it for $1300.
All of the Kuros had the dirty screen affect, buzzing and IR, My 65VT50 Panasonic has none of these problems, however I do take steps so I don't get IR.

Yes on paper the 9G Kuro 141 ($7000) was a better TV than the VT50 ($3500), but if you can do or have a high end calibration on both, there is very little difference. Because I view Blu Ray movies mostly imo the VT50 is a better TV. However for TV sources the 9G Kuro is better, at least when it was new.

Here's something you probably don't know about, there was software that could be downloaded (I think the cost was about $35) and you could reset the hours on a Kuro, I don't know if it worked or not but it probably did.
So If you have a Kuro enjoy it, but if you are buying one used be very careful and compare value to what a new plasma with a full warranty costs.The Kuro was a great TV but its ageing now.

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Panasonic is not as far from matching even a 9G Kuro as you may think. I don't know how the two sets were compared when you viewed them, but other than MLL or low APL content, the 2012 Panasonic plasmas when calibrated will look fairly close to a Kuro. The ZT60 might even match it in MLL, or at least come very close.

It's probably true that Panasonic's build quality is lower than that of a Kuro, but the 2012 Panasonic plasmas were not intended to compete with Pioneer... they were intended to compete with Samsung and LG and are sold at a considerably lower price than the Kuros were. And while there are a fair amount of issues with the 2012 Panasonic plasmas, other brands have their fair share of issues, too. To say that Panasonic has terrible build quality based on these forums isn't fair because these boards are not indicative of percentage of Panasonic owners with issues as a whole. If you haven't noticed, Panasonic is by far the most popular brand these days here at AVS and there are far more Panasonic plasma owners compared to Samsung or LG.
Edited by rahzel - 2/14/13 at 1:16pm

Here's another perspective. If my PRO-101FD died today (knock on wood-like veneer on cheap office desk) I would not replace it with another Kuro. Why? Because the VT60 and ZT60 are out and are comparable enough to ME for the price while also having a larger screen (15" more than mine and 5" more than the PRO-141). Would I miss the wonderful film-like presentation of the 9.5gen Kuro? Hell yeah! My uncle owned the Sony G90 and my other TV is the KD-34XS955 (SFP tube, which is still going strong), so I love my inky CRT blacks. I still would not buy a used Kuro today, especially with the potential for increasing red tint. If I hadn't found my PRO-101FD for the price I did I would not have bought it - it would still be a pipe dream. I am just going to hope my set lasts long enough until 4K+OLED sets hover ~ $4-5K, so here's to another 10 yrs.