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post #28531 of 30268
Yeah my mistake... I thought somelogin directed it at me LOL
post #28532 of 30268
Oh no, trolls don't believe me. If I were dumb enough to post in threads claiming i ahve tvs i don't really have, it wouldn't be this one.
post #28533 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Looks like we have a couple people who don't get it and hilariously project. I did not say the problem is it shuts off. The PROBLEM is when it is paused it is BRIGHT. It then DIMS after many seconds. THEN it shuts off. It's BS to claim that it's normal for a total black screen to wait many seconds before dimming to anywhere NEAR black. It's a lit up mess until it finally dims and then like 5 seconds after it dims it turns off. Maybe you should read my posts before saying who doesn't get it. And also what's so hard to get about me posting SEVERAL times saying I took pics and vids which were impossible to see any of this in? And dont worry, skip, I am fine with you "stop helping me", as you're one who never helped and just keeps posting these rude comments. Only maybe 3 people in here ever even once politely helped. smile.gif

Peopel are getting really ridiculous now if they're going to claim it's "normal" for it to be as bright as a christmas tree for like 15 seconds ANY time there is darkness. Vinnie said when you first turn the tv ON it waits a few secodns and dims. THEN.IT.STAYS.DIM. So if you "get it", you would realize when I pause in the middle of a movie, that is NOT when the tv just turned on and it should not be needing to wait forever on a PAUSED screen before dimming. It should already BE dimmed. Wow. Just wow.

I can take pics with content on it, but what's the point? People already say they can't diagnose anything, anyway, so why bother? I was trying to take a pic of full black in total darkness, but you can't even tell in the pic that it's not totally black. It just looks like total darkness with a blue light. That is NOT how it looks in reality. I thought a video would work since there would be no light getting in the way, but still it doesn't pick it up properly.

Anyway, my point is it can NOT be normal to wait so long before dimming. Otherwise if a movie switches from a light scene to a dark one and the dark scene is only like 10 seconds, it would never get darkened! And transitions would NEVER be black! It takes probably 30 times as long as the transition itself for it to even dim down on a full black screen on mine.

I'm officially confused now.

So, you say the TV operates as it should in it's start up state; Bright>dim>off- but when playing content it stays bright?

You're making me frustrated now when i don't have to care at all. I'm just trying to understand you.
post #28534 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Repeating the same things? I have answered questions and added tons of info when asked about it. Also, really nobody is reading. I did not say I am NOT going to try connecting something straight to it. If you read back through the thread you will see that I can't even notice this issue with ANY ambient light. Even light from underneath closed blinds is enough for me to not see this, so I have to thus wait until dark.

Then there is nothing wrong with your set and it simply needs a professional calibration to improve black levels, or your expectations were too high... Plain and simple.
post #28535 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

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Also, if you ARE, by miracle, a calibrator, why don't you come check it out in person for free?

Yeah, i'll take time out from my schedule and family, travel to Tenn, look at your display, and travel back home....for free. Yeah right.
post #28536 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Repeating the same things? I have answered questions and added tons of info when asked about it. Also, really nobody is reading. I did not say I am NOT going to try connecting something straight to it. If you read back through the thread you will see that I can't even notice this issue with ANY ambient light. Even light from underneath closed blinds is enough for me to not see this, so I have to thus wait until dark.

Instead of saying OK let me try that out, you went into some long diatribe about how it was difficult and you didnt want to do it, but you "think" you could.....YOu were asked to take a video or picture, but isntead of saying sure no problem you say its not going to make a difference anyways......We say call Pioneer, you say Im not going to call Pioneer becasue they wont fix it and I have a warranty though someone else. we say call the warranty and you say why should I when most likely they wont be able to fix it anyways.......can you see the pattern we are getting from your responses?

As far as your troll comment goes, well thats one way to kill a ton of people from trying to help you....
post #28537 of 30268
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Yeah, i'll take time out from my schedule and family, travel to Tenn, look at your display, and travel back home....for free. Yeah right.

Thanks for the good biggrin.gif moment,.....I guess it was worth a shot lol rolleyes.gifwink.gif
post #28538 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Repeating the same things? I have answered questions and added tons of info when asked about it. Also, really nobody is reading. I did not say I am NOT going to try connecting something straight to it. If you read back through the thread you will see that I can't even notice this issue with ANY ambient light. Even light from underneath closed blinds is enough for me to not see this, so I have to thus wait until dark.

I've got news for you... My D-Nice calibrated 101fd does NOT display an inky black screen that blends with the bezel when there is no content being displayed in a pitch dark room... My blacks ARE inky once there is content on the screen. The calibration made a big improvement in low contrast scenes, as the blacks remain inky as opposed to displaying a reddish tint prior to calibration.
post #28539 of 30268
I think somelogin is just lonely looking for attention, but doesn't even own a Kuro.
post #28540 of 30268
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

I think somelogin is just lonely looking for attention, but doesn't even own a Kuro.

He owns the cinese knockoff -the pioneere curo
post #28541 of 30268
*dies* AGAIN, I did not say it's simply not inky black when no content. I said it's nowhere NEAR dark black. And it should not be dimming many seconds after a paused transition! That rght there shows there is a problem.

maka, no, it just means I cant easily judge black levels once content is on the screen or any ambient light.

dsskid, well you so badly wanted to see it.... Plus if you're into calibrating, you would want to know just for curiosity sake.

saprano, no I never could tell if it dimmed in the startup state. I said after it had been on a long time and THEN I paused a transition, it dimmed after many seconds and then went into standby.
post #28542 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Also where did I bash the kuros?.

Every time you post without doing something to fix the TV, you bash the Kuro TVs. Do something to fix your issue besides posting how bad the TV's image is. Call the warranty company or Pioneer to suggest a tech in your area.

Leave this issue alone here, it's not going to get solved this way.
post #28543 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

dsskid, well you so badly wanted to see it.... Plus if you're into calibrating, you would want to know just for curiosity sake.
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Wrong again. I don't badly want to see your display, I stated we cannot diagnose it without seeing it.

If you want to pay, I'll calibrate it, but something tells me that your vision problems is a contributor to your unhappiness with the display, which I cannot solve.
post #28544 of 30268
So where is that photo of you display?
post #28545 of 30268
No because that brightness is still there whether I wear glasses or not and I am HAPPY with the picture, compared to other tvs, but I am not one who is picky about black level itself, I just don't want a glowing screen (above LCD level), which is not totally related to black level because I have an LCD who I believe someone said only has 0.03 black level and it is lookking pitch BLACK on transitions and bars. So clearly I am fine with even 0.03 levels if only the insane glowing were absent. Plus, if it's related to vision, how come the hx929 I have looks PITCH black? And even the kuro looks pitch black if in standby, so if it were vision related even standby would look bright.
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

So where is that photo of you display?
you just said you don't want to badly see it and now you're back to wanting to again.
post #28547 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

*dies* AGAIN, I did not say it's simply not inky black when no content. I said it's nowhere NEAR dark black. And it should not be dimming many seconds after a paused transition! That rght there shows there is a problem.

maka, no, it just means I cant easily judge black levels once content is on the screen or any ambient light.

dsskid, well you so badly wanted to see it.... Plus if you're into calibrating, you would want to know just for curiosity sake.

saprano, no I never could tell if it dimmed in the startup state. I said after it had been on a long time and THEN I paused a transition, it dimmed after many seconds and then went into standby.


perhaps the bluray player is the one dimming the image after you PAUSE it.

perhaps the dimming is temporary ir dissapearing... you do know ir is easily noticeable in a pitch black room right?

for godsakes, you are judgin the black levels by pausing during a transition! you already stated the set looks fine while displaying content!
post #28548 of 30268
Guys we have been at it for weeks. I think it's time to no longer pay attention to him. We have wasted time on this guy. Time for us to no longer respond to his questions.
post #28549 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

you just said you don't want to badly see it and now you're back to wanting to again.
I want. Proof that you even have one, not that I want to calibrate it. Picture, or you don't even have a kuro.
post #28550 of 30268
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Originally Posted by skip61 View Post

Guys we have been at it for weeks. I think it's time to no longer pay attention to him. We have wasted time on this guy. Time for us to no longer respond to his questions.
I agree.
post #28551 of 30268
Yeah guys, what's wrong with you?

He's CLEARLY not a picky dude, we're just being plain rude over here!
post #28552 of 30268
hahaha. How picky of me. After all, all kuro elites are normal if they look WORSE than an LCD during transitions. I did not have to PAUSE it to see the problem. I simply paused it to get a better look into what's going on. To say it's obvious in real time is a huge understatement. Someone who is blind could see how lit up this screen is even from 10 miles away. Some of you eneed to read again. An OLD LCD I have is much much much much much darker in the bars. MUCH.
post #28553 of 30268
Also read back to my first posts. Now who was it, again, who wondered if IR could be involvedf? Oh yeah.... me. None of you said even once yes it could be involved. That's what I wodnered from the beginning was if something was keeping pixels from dimming back down due to IR. Why do you trhink I ran the pixel flipper, as I mentioned in this thread also, nonreaders?

ALso, no it's not the blu ray player. As I said, I tested this in both the blu ray player AND with tivo. And the oppo player goes into a screen saver when paused a while, not dimming.
post #28554 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

hahaha. How picky of me. After all, all kuro elites are normal if they look WORSE than an LCD during transitions. I did not have to PAUSE it to see the problem. I simply paused it to get a better look into what's going on. To say it's obvious in real time is a huge understatement. Someone who is blind could see how lit up this screen is even from 10 miles away. Some of you eneed to read again. An OLD LCD I have is much much much much much darker in the bars. MUCH.

then make sure you have said lcd set up next to the kuro when the professional calibrator or technician is troubleshooting to emphasize your point.
post #28555 of 30268
I do have it practically right next to it, but I kind of doubt he will understand unles it's pitch black, which won't happen because no tech is going to show up at night time.
post #28556 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

I do have it practically right next to it, but I kind of doubt he will understand unles it's pitch black, which won't happen because no tech is going to show up at night time.

curtains, blinds, blankets, aluminum foil...
post #28557 of 30268
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Originally Posted by makaveddie81 View Post

curtains, blinds, blankets, aluminum foil...

No sorry, those won't work, the Kuro knows when the Sun is out and it'll only unleash the LCD blacks past midnight.
post #28558 of 30268
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

I do have it practically right next to it, but I kind of doubt he will understand unles it's pitch black, which won't happen because no tech is going to show up at night time.

you do know that calibrators possess this thing called a "meter" that is able to measure black levels right?

a calibrator that has experience will be able to measure your black level and determine if its up to par with other 111fds.

case in point, my room was not pitch black when d-nice determined that my black level of .0009 was not up to par with other 101fds. i simply used blinds to cover up a window that is about two feet to the right from my 101fd.
post #28559 of 30268
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

No sorry, those won't work, the Kuro knows when the Sun is out and it'll only unleash the LCD blacks past midnight.

you always have an excuse to shoot down suggestions that are provided to you. i see no initiative or effort on your part to try to tackle the issue...

hope your set magically corrects itself without any intervention.
post #28560 of 30268
calibrators are not technicians.
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