The Official Pioneer 9G Elite KURO Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 147

Originally Posted by progprog

+1 Very well said, solcris!

Originally Posted by Frank J Manrique

For the rather large price difference the 111 should be a better performer, otherwise what would be the point in purchasing it instead of the cheaper model if both performed equally?...

-THTS

Originally Posted by ROMAN O

And thats with no real settings or calibration I would assume

Originally Posted by ROMAN O

Thats why I did not respond Just do the research and if you trust the dealer go for it. Robert is a great guy for sure.

Originally Posted by Jason Priestley

Interesting that the MSRP has not changed at all. Roman or anybody, do you know if Pioneer has done any rebate deals in the past? DSLR guys like Nikon use this tactic a lot in the fall but don't drop the price (as that is permanent of course). I think I've seen Panny do a similar thing as well with it's TV's.

I just don't want to be blindsided by a rebate deal or some weird sale across the board in October or something.

Originally Posted by prepress

This was at Value Electronics, the week after the shoot-out, so both were still calibrated. My understanding is that the processor in the 9Gs is the same, so perhaps I'd have seen little or no difference with a 5020 (not yet on display) and a 111.

I had gone to see the 5010, fully prepared to buy it. But next to the 111, with familiar material (my own DVDs), my plans changed.

Originally Posted by Jason Priestley

Gotcha. But does anybody know if Pioneer tends to mark down the actual MSRP over the course of the year or does it stay at one price? I believe Panny marks down the actual MSRP over the course of the year. Just trying to get a sense. Crosses fingers for labor day though...

Originally Posted by fallenbuddha

MSRP for the 8g Pioneers are the same today as the day they were released (notwithstanding a $1000 price drop in MSRP for the 9g sets). Market or street prices, on the other hand, have fluctuated. Whether Pioneer will eventually lower MSRP under the pressure of the current U.S. economy and Panasonic and Samsung's aggressive price slashing is anyone's guess. My guess is no.

Originally Posted by prepress

I also doubt it. But a reseller might lower its price, such as BB did in January (albeit for a week only). They'd lowered the price on the Elites, which I was told they don't usually do on premium TVs. A promotional tie-in with the impending Super Bowl (that's another "holiday" to throw in the mix). Non-Elites are usually discounted some.

And though Pioneer did eventually lower the MRSP on the 1150 last year by $500, that's not typical.

Originally Posted by billybob0405

When I eventually get my new equipment - 151/sc-05/51 or 05, I will connect everything with HDMI. I will also want to occasionally do casual viewing using the 151's speakers. I have the Dish 622 box. Is my best bet to run Svideo straight to tv and 2 RCA cables for sound? I could instead use component connection, but didn't think the extra cables would buy me that much.

On the HDMI cable issue that's been discussed. I'm kinda leaning toward a compromise on cost and going with Blue Jeans series-f2. The recent audiophile chart indicated monoprice and blue jeans both passed all 5 tests. I believe the slimmer cable of the series-f2 could be a benefit also. With all of the discussion on HDMI, I don't think any new breakthrough knowledge has been arrived at. I would be comfortable with the cheaper cable. The price difference isn't that great considering the overall system cost.

Bill

Originally Posted by arunkandra

I cant wait to finish the break-in and start enjoying my TV ...just getting paranoid if I`m going to mess it up by not following appropriate recommendations.

I still have abt 18 hrs left for break-in to complete. I will probably start using it today and finish the break -in tonight

Originally Posted by ROMAN O

And thats with no real settings or calibration I would assume

Originally Posted by Frank J Manrique

Dunno...U tell me...

-THTS

Originally Posted by birdliver

I feel for anyone who has buzzing or dead pixels from what is alleged to be the best equipment in the business.
These problems have conditioned me to be satisfied with a panel that is of the "plus green" variety which although eminently correctable, needs calibration (read more $$$) just to get it to the condition it should have been delivered in. There's no excuse for any of it.

Originally Posted by ROMAN O

It was at VE so they were calibrated

Originally Posted by ks-man

If your representative falls asleep a certain number of times and fails to record the settings are you allowed to request a new rep? Do you know how many times until he should call Pioneer?

Originally Posted by ProShooter

Akubilius: Leave the comedy to professionals - you're falling way short here.

Originally Posted by akubilius

Wow, sorry to upset you.

Originally Posted by moonlightmile

After a long morning my 151 has been installed. It replaced a 60 Sony XBR LCD. What a beauty this plasma is.......

Picture is unreal. I have been toying with the settings. Regarding D-Nice's non break-in settings is Pure the best for break-in? I have set all of them as written. Watching the Yankees/Red Sox game right now I have to say that setting to Optimum really looks good.....

Sorry for the newbie questions I am just trying to get a handle on the settings. Would that setting affect break-in when used in conjunction with the others for non break-in DVD settings??

Cheers!

Originally Posted by Aetherhole

Optimum will give you a very nice image that 'pops' but it uses excessive sharpening to the image, is oversaturated, and you also lose some black detail.

Optimum is far from an 'accurate' picture, too. Pure mode will yield an image much more 'accurate' picture. Also with D-Nice's settings you will even get even close to that accuracy.

Originally Posted by vancouver

Can anyone tell me what causes display settings to reset? I have found that for some reason that I am either doing something or its happening on its own the picture settings reset to default on my 141. Any suggestions I should look out for?

How can I actually save a setting?

Originally Posted by progprog

There's a lot of talk around here about settings, but don't get caught up in the idea that there is only one "correct" settings configuration. If that were the case, why have so many AV modes? There are settings that yield a more "accurate" picture, and settings that yield a more "dynamic" picture, and settings that can yield just about anything you want. What's right for your TV are the settings that give you a picture you like. If you like Optimum, that's cool. Enjoy!

Originally Posted by progprog

I think you'd find that component does yield a noticeably better picture than S-video. I'd go that route if it's the highest -level cable option available with the Dish box.

Originally Posted by Aetherhole

moonlight, those settings may very well be good for the rest of the time you have the display! If you have the chance, you may want to get a professional ISF calibration.