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Originally Posted by Frank J Manrique View Post

Me thinks greater versatility is the name of the game!...

-THTS

If you could have it all.....
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

How far are you from Chicago?

Just a short putt, not a long drive, right Waboman? 409 miles according to yahoo maps.

Bill
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Use an AMEX Card or some other credit card. They will add 1-2 years of warranty on top of the Pioneer one automatically. Warranties are a big markup for the dealer. You effectively will have 3 years. If you make it that far - chances are you will be fine.
post #5554 of 28738
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Originally Posted by billybob0405 View Post

just a short putt, not a long drive, right waboman? 409 miles according to yahoo maps.

Bill

q1 2009
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Are their any good demo videos of the 151 i can watch online, that shows how deep and incredible the black levels are?
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

How far are you from Chicago?

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Originally Posted by billybob0405 View Post

Just a short putt, not a long drive, right Waboman? 409 miles according to yahoo maps.

Bill


That's right Bill. It's just a hop, skip & jump away.
post #5557 of 28738
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Originally Posted by platinumpapi View Post

Are their any good demo videos of the 151 i can watch online, that shows how deep and incredible the black levels are?

I thought you went and bought one today? No?

P.S. You can't replicate the image very well on a computer monitor. What you'll really be seeing is how deep the blacks are on that....
post #5558 of 28738
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

That's right Bill. It's just a hop, skip & jump away.

Now, if he could make a southern trip about 650 mi s from you in the same time period......
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Originally Posted by billybob0405 View Post

Now, if he could make a southern trip about 650 mi s from you in the same time period......

If I choose to take a road trip instead of flying....it's definitely a possibility.
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

If I choose to take a road trip instead of flying....it's definitely a possibility.

PM me when you decide.
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Will do.
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

jdmi, I unplugged my display from the power conditioner and plugged it directly in to the wall plug. Listening to the unit both ways with the audio muted and my ears right up to the display and there was no difference that I could discern. Very quiet both ways. Unfortunately my display has one dead pixel pretty much in the middle that I don't really think I can actually see from my viewing area. I have gotten over it and have decided not to exchange it as I am happy with every thing else.
Mike

Thanks for checking. Also, I think that's good that you're able to forget about the dead pixel you can't normally see.
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

q1 2009

Is that the time frame you're thinking for a Twin Cities visit?

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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

If I choose to take a road trip instead of flying....it's definitely a possibility.

Rock n roll D!
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I just bought my new Kuro 151 tonight and I am just wondering about a few things like wall mounts. there is so many out there and at so many price points how do you decide?
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yes everyone, i bought my 151 but i have not received it yet, next tuesday!
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Update on my Pioneer customer care adventure:

So there is no secret that I have a buzzing 151. I contacted Pioneer 2 weeks and three days ago, and nobody has made to my place to check out my TV yet. I called twice to remind them that I have an issue with my TV, and they submitted a request for a local service. A person from that local service has not showed up, and most likely he will make it only sometime next week.

For an Elite price, I got a buzzer and almost useless customer service. Great job, Pioneer.
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

  • The ability to go beyond 41fL of peak brightness without clipping whites or destroying gamma.
  • Much more felxibilty with the gamma
  • Better low end grayscale
  • Greater picture depth because of the above

Does mean above 40ftl on a 151? If that is the case I will eat crow!
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That blows. Keep us posted- I really hope you get some sort of satisfactory resolution.
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

"So I would be content if it would be just as good as a calibration using the Pure user a/v mode. You would still have all these other a/v modes (optimum, performance, etc.) to choose from for added vibrancy when watching sports or whatever."

I've always said the main benefit is that fact that you add additional memories Per Input (the Per Input is key).

Understanding the Pioneer ISFccc Interface:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post14462861
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14440655
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post14440343
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5575

ISFccc vs Pure Info and Reports:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post14691872
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post14695249

How to view the ISFccc Information

NOTE: Your Calibrator can customize this information


AV Selection showing ISF-Night

Even on my 24 lcd monitor that picture looks really good. If getting beyond the 30ftl is achieved by isfccc, SIGN ME UP! If that is not the case then I could care less.
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Will do.

You know New York and New Jersey has some of the best pizza in the land man. I don't think you want to go through life without having sampled some of this good pizza up here and oh by the way if you do come up here .....
post #5571 of 28738
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Originally Posted by akubilius View Post

update on my pioneer customer care adventure:

So there is no secret that i have a buzzing 151. I contacted pioneer 2 weeks and three days ago, and nobody has made to my place to check out my tv yet. I called twice to remind them that i have an issue with my tv, and they submitted a request for a local service. A person from that local service has not showed up, and most likely he will make it only sometime next week.

For an elite price, i got a buzzer and almost useless customer service. Great job, pioneer.

scary...
post #5572 of 28738
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Originally Posted by totalownership View Post

You know New York and New Jersey has some of the best pizza in the land man. I don't think you want to go through life without having sampled some of this good pizza up here and oh by the way if you do come up here .....


Yeah but D-Nice has already mentioned something about maybe being in Chicago sometime in the future, which also has many places with even better pizza offerings than NY or NJ. (not to mention our Chicago style hot dogs and outstanding Italian beef sandwiches)
So you might need to offer something better than just the 2d best places in the land for pizzas......
post #5573 of 28738
Okay, I'll give you pizza - but we definitely win hot dogs. Nothing beats a New York hot dog!
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

Yeah but D-Nice has already mentioned something about maybe being in Chicago sometime in the future, which also has many places with even better pizza offerings than NY or NJ. (not to mention our Chicago style hot dogs and outstanding Italian beef sandwiches)
So you might need to offer something better than just the 2d best places in the land for pizzas......

For once I gotta agree with John. Chicago pie is something special. In fact, when D-Nice swings thru Chi-town, I recommend he stops by Gino's East Side and picks up a couple of pies on his way to Minneapolis.
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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

Nothing beats a New York hot dog!

Nothing that is, except for a Chicago hot dog!.....
post #5576 of 28738
The vienna is suppose to be the best hot dog Italian food you can't go wrong with either ny or chicago. I give chicago the edge. Both places take their food seriously. Funny artical.


"'The mustard has been flying since last week's announcement by the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council that Americans think New York City offers better hot dogs than Chicago.

It feels like a personal attack to Jim Bodman, chairman of Vienna Beef, and Howard Eirinberg, president of the company that practically invented the city's trademark Chicago-style hot dog. Questioning the validity of the Council's findings, today the pair threw down the ceremonial poppy seed gauntlet to New York City's hot dog community: "We challenge any New York hot dog to a taste-off any place, anytime. It's time to set the record straight about the world's best hot dog."

"People are absolutely outraged," says Vienna Beef chairman and owner Jim Bodman. "We've had calls from people telling us we need to defend Chicago's honor."

Chicagoans are, indeed, passionate about their hot dogs, with their odd mix of ingredients and complex blend of flavors that create that oh-so-wonderful Chicago hot dog experience: an all-beef Vienna Beef hot dog in a steamed poppy seed bun, topped with mustard, bright green relish, chopped onion, tomato slices, a pickle spear, sport peppers and celery salt. Vienna hot dogs are available nationwide through independent retailers, grocers and now, in more than 1,000 Target stores.

New Yorkers prefer their hot dogs with steamed onions and pale yellow mustard. But they lack Chicago's passion, according to Janet Riley, senior vice president of public affairs for the Council. "As a former Chicagoan, I have strong sympathies that my hometown favorite didn't win," she says. "We've had an enormous outpouring of disappointment and we're going to have a rematch."

Eirinberg is so serious about the issue, that he's already placed calls to the office of Chicago's Mayor Richard M. Daley, requesting assistance in the taste off and plans to call the office of Michael Bloomberg, mayor of New York City.

"I am sure that once folks taste the Chicago-style hot dog, there will be no question," said Eirinberg. "We are simply the best."

According to the Council, 28 percent of Americans prefer New York City hot

dogs, followed by 26 percent who voted for Chicago dogs."
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Originally Posted by Le Patron View Post

I just bought my new Kuro 151 tonight and I am just wondering about a few things like wall mounts. there is so many out there and at so many price points how do you decide?

I was with the same dilemma and based on my needs or wants I ended up getting this one sanus VMDD26. I bought it here Many people prefer the low profile but I choose the Full Articulating Arm because of my particular layout. This wall mount has very good ratings. A bit pricey but... Food for Thought.
post #5578 of 28738
So I received my Pioneer Elite PRO-111 today just got home and unpackaged installing speakers (any clue why it says not to screw all the way and to leave 5 mm of gap?) Unfurtunaly its a built jun 2008 with a hepm.

So I guess im getting ready to use the break in settings ( are they diffrent if you have hepm?) But i'm tempted to "cheat" a bit and see kuro heaven, would this drift my color shifting point making the break in disc irrelevent?(assuming by doing D-nice break in with reference provides 95% of D65k)?
post #5579 of 28738
Last night after calibrating the 151FD KURO with the Pure mode settings D-Nice recently posted in the Calibration Forum...I went ahead and had a movie-watching marathon (with a few breaks in between, of course ); viewed a DVR recording of "Manhunter," which is being aired by the HDNet Movies channel this month, and "The Towering Inferno" on D-VHS (also aired by the HDNet Movies channel but which I taped a few years ago).

To say that this is the first time that I've been almost fooled into thinking I was watching real film via a video display in my own home is an understatement!
I mean, the darned HD videos looks so close to film that is truly scary!
If it wasn't for the few tell-tell signs of 1080i's artifacts and odious edge "enhancement," the presentation otherwise looks like one is watching real film through a crystal clear window!

Now, if I could only find a front projector that can provide me with the sort of image quality like the KURO does...even when projected onto a 12 foot wide screen and at an affordable price...I'd be in sheer video haven!

Can't hardly wait to have my KURO calibrated by a pro...

-THTS
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You can achieve above 40 ft lamberts on a 151 without clipping or discoloration. Got 42 ftl to be exact. Here's a link to grayscale and gamma / luminance charts for a 151FD I just did yesterday. This is ISF Day mode readings.

Pioneer PRO-151FD ISFccc Day


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Originally Posted by PARASITE View Post

Does mean above 40ftl on a 151? If that is the case I will eat crow!
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