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post #1591 of 1858
6/8/09 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

Not sure. I do know that both my Sony Blu-ray ES player and Sony ES receiver (which I use as a switcher) support Deep Color/x.v.Color technology and HDMI 1.3.
So I would imagine some Blu-ray Dvd's would, if their not already doing it.

There are lots of players and TV's supporting deep color, but I agree with Trekguy. I've not heard of any source material with deep color yet.
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post #1592 of 1858
6/8/09 at 10:58am
I entered the service menu recently and have to say it was very easy to navigate. I took snapshots of each main menu and sub menus so that I would have all the default settings... just in case. My intent was two-fold. First, to test out the settings posted by another user here (forget his user name). Second, to try to find any color decoding controls.

After making all the service menu changes mentioned in numerous posts, I was not surprised by the results. Changing to these settings not only messed up my white balance (as expected) but it also made my colors less accurate. My primaries did not change noticably, but the secondaries were definitely worse. My recommendation is that anyone blinding using these settings should "undo" them.

As for my second object, I did not find any controls to move the primaries... but I did not spend long in the service menu and only tested a coupling different settings. More to follow...
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post #1593 of 1858
6/8/09 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by stash64 View Post

I entered the service menu recently and have to say it was very easy to navigate. I took snapshots of each main menu and sub menus so that I would have all the default settings... just in case. My intent was two-fold. First, to test out the settings posted by another user here (forget his user name). Second, to try to find any color decoding controls.

After making all the service menu changes mentioned in numerous posts, I was not surprised by the results. Changing to these settings not only messed up my white balance (as expected) but it also made my colors less accurate. My primaries did not change noticably, but the secondaries were definitely worse. My recommendation is that anyone blinding using these settings should "undo" them.

As for my second object, I did not find any controls to move the primaries... but I did not spend long in the service menu and only tested a coupling different settings. More to follow...

I used the service menu settings posted a while ago and I found that the picture is much better now. Skin tones seem much more natural and for some reason the blacks are noticeably deeper. This is all based on my own viewing, no equipment used, but I think the settings helped my TV.
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post #1594 of 1858
6/8/09 at 3:00pm
Thread Starter 
I hope everyone continues to enjoy their 850's. A little over a year and my how things have changed....I gotta sell mine

I still have it and I still drop by the thread to see whats happening, but my tv has to go asap...
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post #1595 of 1858
6/8/09 at 6:20pm
Why?
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post #1596 of 1858
6/8/09 at 7:16pm
Thread Starter 
$$

I need it.
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post #1597 of 1858
6/10/09 at 12:12pm
What changes/improvements were made in the latest firmware? I updated yesterday and was curious.
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post #1598 of 1858
6/10/09 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by DSteckler View Post

What changes/improvements were made in the latest firmware? I updated yesterday and was curious.

3.150 has been out since the middle of April. It paved the way for Panasonic releasing Amazon Video on demand using Viera Cast. This was on or around April 21. You can watch HD streaming videos for $4-$5 if your TV is connected to the internet.

Drew
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post #1599 of 1858
6/11/09 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by murphy2112 View Post

I just bought the TH-50PZ800U from Amazon, and it's shipping in about 1 week. Where is the TH-50PZ800U owners' thread?[img]http://www.****************/blog/see.GIF[/img]

Its funny I ordered the same LCD from Big River and it was 2 weeks shipping. I ended up canceling. There was another that was only a 42' but shipped in 2days. Saved alot of money. Now I can spend the rest on blu rays!! muhahahah
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post #1600 of 1858
6/11/09 at 8:46am
Thanks, Drew.
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post #1601 of 1858
6/18/09 at 7:23am
Sure is quiet in here lately...
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post #1602 of 1858
6/18/09 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by webapalooza View Post

Sure is quiet in here lately...

maybe people are watching tv?
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post #1603 of 1858
6/18/09 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by tristanstewart View Post

maybe people are watching tv?

Damn are we supposed to watch it?

I thought the whole idea was to have an excuse to use this forum, play test/setup/demo disks and have enormous bragging rights.
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post #1604 of 1858
6/19/09 at 8:00am
I'm having a bit of problem with my set up as I just replaced a Moto HD STB with a Tivo HD. I run all HDMI. So TiVo to my external video processor (crystalio VPS 3800) and then to the panny. The problem is that when I set the TIVO to pass through the native resolution of the broadcast the image on my Panny is just a small box. I'm familiar with viewing SD 4:3 on a 16:9 screen and the side bars. This is different. The active screen is just a small box in the middle of the Panny with black on all sides. If I set the TIVO to output a fixed 1080i signal, the problem goes away.

In trying to track down the problem I would like to know what resolution the Panny is receiving. I can see from my video processor what it is sending which is 1080x1920 but it would be helpful to see what the Panny "thinks" it is receiving.

Anyone know how to recall the input resolution from the panny remote?

thanks.
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post #1605 of 1858
6/19/09 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by Jack D View Post

I'm having a bit of problem with my set up as I just replaced a Moto HD STB with a Tivo HD. I run all HDMI. So TiVo to my external video processor (crystalio VPS 3800) and then to the panny. The problem is that when I set the TIVO to pass through the native resolution of the broadcast the image on my Panny is just a small box. I'm familiar with viewing SD 4:3 on a 16:9 screen and the side bars. This is different. The active screen is just a small box in the middle of the Panny with black on all sides. If I set the TIVO to output a fixed 1080i signal, the problem goes away.

In trying to track down the problem I would like to know what resolution the Panny is receiving. I can see from my video processor what it is sending which is 1080x1920 but it would be helpful to see what the Panny "thinks" it is receiving.

Anyone know how to recall the input resolution from the panny remote?

thanks.

Press the info button on the remote.
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post #1606 of 1858
6/19/09 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by Mesickstan View Post

Press the info button on the remote.

Boy that's easy! thanks.
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post #1607 of 1858
6/20/09 at 10:59am
This might be slightly off topic but here goes...

I'm new to this forum but have had my 50-850u for about a year now. The TV signal is Verizon FIOS into a Yamaha RX-V1800 which up-converts the FIOS 1080i feed to 1080p. The picture I get rivals the quality I get from my Pana 35k Blu-Ray except for one aspect: in fast moving scenes of HD movies the FIOS image breaks up into small pixel boxes just long enough that it's noticeable and distracting.

I'm told this is either too much info coming through the pipe so I need an attenuator or it's something called 'pixel starvation' and nothing can be done about it. Verizon can't figue it out. I'm using high quality HDMI cables for all connections.

Has anyone else had similar issues with their TV feed? Am I asking too much from the technology? I'm assuming it's not the 850 because the Blu-ray image fed through the same Yamaha is fine.

Thanks
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post #1608 of 1858
6/20/09 at 8:40pm
A local network switched over to a different digital channel recently and I have been unable to pick up the new channel with my antenna after rescanning half a dozen times. The TV continues to hang on to the old (dead) digital channel and that is the channel I get when using the channel up/down or favorites. However, I am able to tune into the new digital channel by entering the numbers directly via the remote.

All I could find in the manual about "resetting" the channel scan was to perform a rescan more than twice... but this made no difference. Has anyone figured out a way to completely reset the channel scan to remove all existing channels from memory ??? I'm hoping I don't have to do a complete reset back to factory defaults.
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post #1609 of 1858
6/20/09 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by curiousviewer9 View Post

This might be slightly off topic but here goes...

I'm new to this forum but have had my 50-850u for about a year now. The TV signal is Verizon FIOS into a Yamaha RX-V1800 which up-converts the FIOS 1080i feed to 1080p. The picture I get rivals the quality I get from my Pana 35k Blu-Ray except for one aspect: in fast moving scenes of HD movies the FIOS image breaks up into small pixel boxes just long enough that it's noticeable and distracting.

I'm told this is either too much info coming through the pipe so I need an attenuator or it's something called 'pixel starvation' and nothing can be done about it. Verizon can't figue it out. I'm using high quality HDMI cables for all connections.

Has anyone else had similar issues with their TV feed? Am I asking too much from the technology? I'm assuming it's not the 850 because the Blu-ray image fed through the same Yamaha is fine.

Thanks

I've had my 850u for 6 months now and I notice the breakup in fast-moving sequences often enough to annoy me, but not often enough for me to search an answer. I actually assumed it was the TV failing the 3:2 pulldown sequence as tested in CNET and HDGURU reviews, but what you're saying makes more sense; that it is actually the verizon feed. I'm sorry I can't help you though, but does anyone happen to know what a 3:2 pulldown failure means for real world viewing? Will I notice it in normal 1080i viewing? What does it look like? What exactly does it mean to "fail" the 1080i resolution test?
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post #1610 of 1858
6/20/09 at 10:35pm
stash64
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Has anyone figured out a way to completely reset the channel scan to remove all existing channels from memory ??? I'm hoping I don't have to do a complete reset back to factory defaults.

Here is a thread that might help: How to remove duplicate OTA channels
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post #1611 of 1858
6/21/09 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

stash64


Here is a thread that might help: How to remove duplicate OTA channels

Thanks!!! That did the trick, though Panasonic really should have a reset for channel programmng.
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post #1612 of 1858
6/22/09 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by curiousviewer9 View Post

This might be slightly off topic but here goes...

. The picture I get rivals the quality I get from my Pana 35k Blu-Ray except for one aspect: in fast moving scenes of HD movies the FIOS image breaks up into small pixel boxes just long enough that it's noticeable and distracting.

I'm told this is either too much info coming through the pipe so I need an attenuator or it's something called 'pixel starvation' and nothing can be done about it. Verizon can't figue it out. I'm using high quality HDMI cables for all connections.

Thanks

Point at the carrier (who may point at the originator) but what you see is an artifact of inadequate bandwidth. The objective of the carriers is to cram as many revenue producing channels as possible into the smallest slice of bandwidth. In effect they have decided that the HD consumers will tolerate images that are less than they could be as a tradeoff for more channels. Look at the adds for claims about image quality.
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post #1613 of 1858
6/22/09 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by gugion View Post

I've had my 850u for 6 months now and I notice the breakup in fast-moving sequences often enough to annoy me, but not often enough for me to search an answer. I actually assumed it was the TV failing the 3:2 pulldown sequence as tested in CNET and HDGURU reviews, but what you're saying makes more sense; that it is actually the verizon feed. I'm sorry I can't help you though, but does anyone happen to know what a 3:2 pulldown failure means for real world viewing? Will I notice it in normal 1080i viewing? What does it look like? What exactly does it mean to "fail" the 1080i resolution test?

Failure of a video processor to detect and correctly process 3:2 pull down results in a perceptible loss of detail, such as thin horizontal lines in an image.


I won't dispute the Cnet reviews or any other reviews, but I have used a the HQV Benchmark DVD and BD to check my 850, my Reon equipped Onkyo 906 and my Panasonic BD 35. The 850 does not fail the 3:2 pull down test.

Not surprisingly the Reon does a good job, but the player and display do alright. I think that with ordinary program material rather than benchmark programming, the differences are pretty small.

There is a fairly good explanation (with screen captures) of cadence detection (3:2 and others) is
this document from HQV
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post #1614 of 1858
6/25/09 at 7:29pm
About to purchase my first plasma. I can get a good close-out price on this unit. May pick it up this weekend.

Anyone with dish want to comment on the picture quality with this unit? I'm a little nervous with all the IR talk regarding plasma tv's. My last 3 tv's have been rear projection.
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post #1615 of 1858
6/25/09 at 8:15pm
I have a 65 850U and have a question that I couldn't find an answer to here or in the manual. I understand what the 60-48 Hz settings are about but how do you change the setting if you wanted to. When I watch a dvd the setting is greyed out. I haven't checked if this is the same with blu-ray. I've had the set calibrated and am using the custom settings. any help would be appreciated. thanks.
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post #1616 of 1858
6/25/09 at 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

I have a 65 850U and have a question that I couldn't find an answer to here or in the manual. I understand what the 60-48 Hz settings are about but how do you change the setting if you wanted to. When I watch a dvd the setting is greyed out. I haven't checked if this is the same with blu-ray. I've had the set calibrated and am using the custom settings. any help would be appreciated. thanks.

This sounds normal. The 48hz setting will not be grayed out when a 24p Blu Ray is playing.
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post #1617 of 1858
6/26/09 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by Bill_H View Post

This sounds normal. The 48hz setting will not be grayed out when a 24p Blu Ray is playing.

thanks and you are correct. i checked when watching a blu-ray and it wasn't grayed out, though the 3:2 pulldown still was. I was just wondering when these two settings can or should be applied and when they can't and why. Is it a dvd thing since they are only 480i? Fuzzy on some of these things and was hoping for a clarification from the experts here. Overall, the PQ on this set is just great and I have NEVER seen any flicker at all, on my display or at a theater. I just want to make sure I am doing everything I'm supposed to be doing to make sure the PQ is the best it can be. again, thanks for the help.
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post #1618 of 1858
6/26/09 at 8:02pm
I am currently updating from 3.150 to 3.170. I'll let you know if anything was added to Viera Cast.

Drew
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post #1619 of 1858
6/26/09 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by drew.c View Post

I am currently updating from 3.150 to 3.170. I'll let you know if anything was added to Viera Cast.

Drew

Was a little hesitant to upgrade after the Garmin 7x5 fiasco. Most all Garmin 7x5 died Wed. and would not power up after a firmware upgrade/glitch. You either had to send it back to Garmin or open the case and unplug the battery. I did the latter. Anyway, 58PZ850U finally finished and rebooted. Not seeing anything different in Viera Cast. Amazon Video on Demand is still there along with YouTube , Weather, Picasa, Bloomberg, and Coming Soon (lower right). Not seeing any changes anywhere.

Drew
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post #1620 of 1858
6/27/09 at 4:32am
When we got our new panasonic it really made us excited.
We got it with a big discounts and it has quality picture and sounds. [IMG]http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k08t1221bbuq/gdsmile.gif[/IMG]
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