The Official Usher Audio Owners Thread - Page 8

Congrats on the completed system. BTW, I am a beta tester for the Bridge, you'll really like it.

How very true...give me a few more days and I'll know then if I'll be adding something noteworthy regarding your valid point.

Congratulations. Sounds like a great system. I have also finished an extensive auditioning which has led me to loving the Usher be20. The results are posted here...

http://www.martinloganowners.com/for...ad.php?t=11595

I will likely get either the Ushers or the Focal ALTOS. Both were amazing in the ~10k used arena.

Am stil cintemplating what amp/pre/DAC to drive them with. My main room has a tube pre/DAC (TADAC) -> Belcanto reference 1000 - > ML Summits.

I love it but want to experiment with something else. Did you get a chance to audition the Diablo versus the MA7000 ad perhaps a tube amp such as MA275?

Thanks

Does anyone know how Usher speakers are best positioned? Are they designed for on Axis listening (toe in)? I would be interested in the answer, and how other user have their's positioned for best in room response!

Good sound to you!

I have my Dancer Mini 1 in a triangle with 8 foot sides. The speakers are pointed directly at my ear on respective side. I have tried to have them point a little wider (were I see a hint of the inside of the speaker). In my case it gave a broader stage -but - I also lost focus on the singer in the centre. She got spread out all over the scene. And vice versa if I point the speakers just in front of my face the sound stage gets to narrow in my opinion.
That's how it works for me but I will be interested to hear the experience of other Usher owners.

djwobbrock

I have my pair of Usher BE-718s set up with some toe-in to face my primary listening position. These 718s are used as my two rear surrounds for great SACD and Bluray multi-ch SQ.

BTW, if anyone is looking for a center channel speaker, I have a BE-616 for sale on Audiogon. http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...298833576&item

Thanks.

I'm very happy with my Be-616.
7ryder, are you giving up on Usher or home cinema :-).

I have a question about the Usher center channels, perhaps the X-616...but first to throw my 2 cents at 13ege
I will be very careful here, but having compared several different interconnects and speaker cables, and living with Sonoran's in and out of my systems for a couple years, here's what I've heard.
I have tried these various connections with the following equipment: Basis 2800 turntable, Esotric CD/SACD player, AR ref2 pre amp OR Custom built point to point dual mono tube pre-amp, my parasound JC-1 monoblocks OR modified Melos tube amp.
Speakers during this five year time period included Legacy Focus, Sonus Faber Extrema's, Martin Logan Ascent I's).
All this time moving cable in and out of the system, the Sonoran's being the only ones I actually owned at the time. (I have a friend who heavy into super highend...WAVAC amps, big Venture speakers, Continuum turntable, etc, so I get to use allot of his cast off stuff for auditions.
After the third set of speakers, I finally sold all the Sonoran stuff I could, and moved to Coincident speaker cables, which were quite a bit more open on the top, without being bright, the mids also became "cleaner" sounding and slightly more out front stage wise. I have tried various Nordost, Kimber, and Audioquest interconnects, and then built my own interconnects using Vampire wire, from their continous copper interconnect wire (no longer available in bulk) and their very best RCA connectors, with silver solder. This was not only cost effective, but sound as good as any of the above once broken in.
I settled on the coincident speaker cables and my DIY Vampire interconnects.
This combo was like lifting a veil off my speakers.(compared to the Sonoran)
I don't know if it's the "micro bead" lead shot around the cables or what, but with your great equipment, I might borrow some highend interconnects and speaker cables and experiment a bit...you might be pleasantly surprised...then again, you may be happy with what you are using now.

I am not happy with these Martin Logan's and have narrow my search to either Usher BE-10's or Von Schweikert VR-4SR's I don't know which yet...or perhaps the Usher 718's and just use my JL audio sub on the bottom 50-60 hz.
I would like to hear anyone's thoughts on the Usher center channel...perhaps the BE-616. Tone wise, how do they match the BE-10?
I'm not to happy about going back to a box speaker sitting right in the middle of my stereo pair...but I can get around that problem.

I decided to get some new speakers - Vivid B1 w/ C1 center channel - which is why I'm selling.

BTW, the BE-616 is voiced to match the rest of the BE series. It matched my Mini Dancer 2 very well, even after upgrading the tweeters in the MD2s to DMD, I didn't get the DMD for the center yet, but it is supposedly on it's way.

KennyG -

Regarding your thought [...or perhaps the Usher 718's and just use my JL audio sub on the bottom 50-60 hz], I did something similar. I ran my BE-718's as my primary L and R speakers with my Sunfire sub for a couple months (while my main speakers were out to have the 12" driver foam surrounds replaced). I set the cross over at 60hz, and it sounded great.

I have been offered a pair of 6391's and 6381's at what I think is a reasonable price. What would be a matching center channel for this series?

I may buy the set and just sell the 6381's as I don't have room for floor standing rears in my home theater.

Mark

I am looking at upgrading my speakers with one possibilty being the BE10 and the 718's as center surround. I use the W4S STI500 to drive the main speakers and The Yamaha to drive the center & surrounds with the W4S in HT bypass mode. My main focus is music and not movies.The Ushers are well priced in NZ
Has any one any experience of using a W4S or comments? The room size will be 6.5m*5.1m*2.7m with vaulted ceilings.

I have not heard the W4S STI500 so a will not be able to give specific comments on that combo. But my instant reaction was - why buy 18 000 USD front speakers and drive them with "only" a 2000 USD machine? My neighbour is using a Plinius set up (Tautoro + SA-103) and it sounds brilliant with lotsa headroom, power and finesse.

mpauline -

Here in California, you can get at least 30% off USD list price for in stock Usher speakers from a B+M Usher dealer. Don't know how that translates to Canada.

Selling two 1 1/8" Silk dome tweeters model 9930-20 and four 7 inch carbon fiber/paper woofers model 8935A. All drivers matched at the Usher factory. They were removed from a brand new pair of Usher tower speakers shortly after being purchased from an authorized Usher dealer. All have less than 50 hours use and are in perfect shape and look brand new.

Asking $200 OBO for the entire package plus shipping.

Please respond to this posting or e-mail me at cinellipro@hotmail.com.

I heard a pair of Usher's at an audio show some time ago. I was so impressed with what I heard I never forgot that sound. Well I just picked up a pair of the 6371's and I'm still impressed. A soundstage so big and wide I can stand next to the guys playing the music. I went from a pair of B&W 805's which worked great in my smaller room. But when we moved to a bigger house, my listening room got bigger.The B&W's still sounded great but couldn't fill the room the way I wanted. My amp is the ATI 1807. Everything I've read says the speakers work best with solid state amps and I have no complaints with what I'm hearing now, but what do tubes sound like with the Ushers. I'm working towards a Mystere pa21 amp or the ia21 integrated that will go into another system. Do you get that nice warm liquid sound or do tubes take something away.

What are people using for a speaker stand for the Be-616?

Just to let you know, the Dancer Mini 1 was tested in Sweden's no. 1 hifi-mag. The verdict was outstanding. The only negative they had to say was "they need power to perform". A true statement :-)

I sold the Dancer's very quickly, but I still have the BE-616 to sell. 9/10 condition, just because it is used. I'm motivated, so drop me a PM if interested.

I am looking at buying either the MD1 or the MD2. Besides more bass extension, is there much of a difference? I was told by one dealer that the 2s will be too much for my room: 14x19x8. Would love to hear from those who decided on one over the other. Was price the difference-maker?

Hi to everybody.

This is my first post in this forum.

My room is 6m x 6m and height 3m.
I just bought CP 8571 diamond with possibility to upgrade to Be 20 in the future.

Can you please share your experiences on the performance of Usher Power ( in mono set up as well) and pre combination with these speakers?

Also any experience with Bel Canto amplifiers will be very helpfull.

Thanks in advance

Just bought the Mini1's! I am quite happy!

wow, I just found this thread, hello fellow Usher users

Usher BE-718, Vincent SP-331, Vincent SA-31 pre, Apollo CD

I am about to upgrade my amplification to my MD 1 from the Marantz SR6004 reciever to an integrated amp. I have listened to 10 different models and borrowed 4 for home review. It was Moon i3.3, Bladelius Tyr III, Musical Fidelity M6i and Musical Fidelity M6 500i. It was easy to get blown away when lestening to the speaker with the extra power and controll. They sure grow with power. My favorite was the big MF which produces 2x500 W in 8 Ohms. Haven't decided yet if I will buy or look further.

Hi,

I have a demo booked for the Be10 in a couple of week but I'd like your opinion regarding placement: How far should they be from the wall behind them?

And another (very) stupid question: As they are just a tiny bit heavy, how to you move them once out of the box? (I can hardly see, even 2 people grabbing them by the stand).

Thanks,
Stephane

I am really glad to have found this forum. Would love to get some subjective thoughts on the difference between the mini dancer 1 and the mini dancer 2 in a relatively mid-sized room (10 x 17). Comments in relation to the sound rather than the fact that the room is too small or big for one or the other model, would be helpful.

I had the Usher Be-718 before. Sold them to get the Dali Helicon 400 MkII due to safety reason for my little daughters. Didn't like the Dali that much. Going to be a new owner of the Usher Mini Dancer 2 next week!!!! Can't wait!!!

Congratulations! What didn't you like about the Dali compared to the Usher? I was in a similar situation. I decided to go with the Mini Dancer 1 because of price/performance. I was going back and forth between 1 and 2. What made you decide on the 2's? I'm sure you will love them!

The Dali is very transparent and the sound stage is amazing. However, they sound bright/harsh when paired with my Musical Fidelity Nu-Vista M3 integrated amp. I also love the midrange of the Usher more. I went for the Mini Dancer 2 because I want a little more low freq response.