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post #61 of 462
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Originally Posted by DoingOK View Post

I am using the Emotiva RPA-2 amplifier and am very happy with the end result. Also, you can send it back within 30 days if you are not satisfied with the Emo unit.




Those look really nice! I'm jealous
post #62 of 462
I had the chance to listen to the Mini Dancer 1.. Aesthetically pleasing. Slightly more bass than the BE-718. Mid range is about the same obviously(same drivers). Very heavy, solid design. Overall I am impressed for a speaker of that caliber in the 3-4k range.

The design is sure pleasing to look at. I just bought the BE-718, If I can somehow get it sold I'll be switching to the Mini Dancer 1. Send me a pm if you are interested. It is still brand new/factory sealed.
post #63 of 462
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Originally Posted by Kriege View Post

The design is sure pleasing to look at. I just bought the BE-718, If I can somehow get it sold I'll be switching to the Mini Dancer 1. Send me a pm if you are interested. It is still brand new/factory sealed.

I got the impression that it should sound the same as the 718 but with more bass. There is also an issue with the lower sensitivity. Do you really think the price difference is worth it?
post #64 of 462
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Originally Posted by Veda View Post

I got the impression that it should sound the same as the 718 but with more bass. There is also an issue with the lower sensitivity. Do you really think the price difference is worth it?

In terms of sound quality differences, most likely not worth the extra cost. Aesthetically, sure.
post #65 of 462
Hey Fellow Usher Owners,

Can anyone comment on the mid-range sound of the CP-6311/CP-6371 vs. the CP-6381/CP-6391? Is there a noticeable difference? If so, how?

I ask because I've only heard the mid-range on the CP-6371 and the sound appears to lack a smidgen of clarity. The CP-6311/71 uses the 8945A mid-bass driver, whereas the CP-6381/91 (and the more expensive Dancer line) uses the 8948A driver. I'm wondering and almost expecting the mid-range of the 8948A to be better. Unfortunately, there is no Usher dealer even remotely close to me so I won't be able to check for myself. Comments?
post #66 of 462
Good question, I've heard the 6311 but not the 6381 even though it's available in my local showroom. I'm assuming that the treble would be the same, the midrange to be more solid, and the bass to be way better. Just due to the design... But the 6381 doesn't seem to be selling as well as the 6311 here. Maybe because of the pricing people just went ahead and get the Be-718.
post #67 of 462
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Originally Posted by JVries View Post

Hey Fellow Usher Owners,

Can anyone comment on the mid-range sound of the CP-6311/CP-6371 vs. the CP-6381/CP-6391? Is there a noticeable difference? If so, how?

I ask because I've only heard the mid-range on the CP-6371 and the sound appears to lack a smidgen of clarity. The CP-6311/71 uses the 8945A mid-bass driver, whereas the CP-6381/91 (and the more expensive Dancer line) uses the 8948A driver. I'm wondering and almost expecting the mid-range of the 8948A to be better. Unfortunately, there is no Usher dealer even remotely close to me so I won't be able to check for myself. Comments?

If you though the sound of 6371 appears to lack a smidgen of clarity, then 6381/6391 will get worst because they output more base. I will recomment you can liston to mini danser one. In my opinion, 6311 sounds bright and clear, and 6391 sounds warm. The mini one improve the speed for mid-bass driver. It's more close to your need.
post #68 of 462
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Originally Posted by raytzer View Post

In my opinion, 6311 sounds bright and clear, and 6391 sounds warm. The mini one improve the speed for mid-bass driver. It's more close to your need.

You know, I never really liked Usher's mid range stuff, it's either the S520 or the Beryllium stuff which is what they're famous for. The 6311 is decent for the styling and midrange but its treble isn't exactly what I'd call high end. It's certainly bright as a soft dome can be like the V series but far from being ultra realistic or extended. Since they're selling the 6311 at the same price of the Be-718, I got the latter. It would make a stylish office system though. Especially in Ferrari Red. But buck for sound I'd get a Focal 800V floorstander instead. Same price.
post #69 of 462
Anyone have good recommendations of usher dealers over the web?
post #70 of 462
I don't think dealers are authorized to sell Usher on the web due to territory restrictions in the US. You will have to go to your local Usher dealer or contact the distributor if there isn't a dealer near you.

Occasionally, you can find dealers selling demos online. There are also refurbs on ebay every now and then. Check audiogon for some used deals.

edit - tweekgeek.com carries Usher and their website says you can contact them if you don't have a dealer in your area.
post #71 of 462
It looks like the Audioholics store is selling the Usher S-520 for $399 shipped. Maybe there are authorized online retailers.
post #72 of 462
wow. i thought Usher was made in the USA???

btw...do you think i should jump on a pair of mint gloss black Usher CP-6381 for about $1200.00 USD shipped? i need to know your thoughts on these... will these be a huge improvement over my Onix Rocket RS760's?
post #73 of 462
PureEvil,

I would take the Usher 6381 for that price in a heartbeat. I had the Onix's smaller model, forgot the # and it was quite good. However, it is no where near the Usher in quality or performance. You will not regret it. I currently have the Be-718 however, driven by Nuforce amps and amp happy.

Good luck,

Kenobi
post #74 of 462
After a year long investigation, I uncovered an interesting but troubling story from within the loudspeaker industry. You can download my manuscript here.

http://www.s-m-audio.com/truth.zip

Steve Mowry
post #75 of 462
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Originally Posted by Pure-Evil View Post

wow. i thought Usher was made in the USA???

btw...do you think i should jump on a pair of mint gloss black Usher CP-6381 for about $1200.00 USD shipped? i need to know your thoughts on these... will these be a huge improvement over my Onix Rocket RS760's?

Don't do it man, you don't get any hugs with the Ushers.....
post #76 of 462
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Originally Posted by droht View Post

Don't do it man, you don't get any hugs with the Ushers.....

honestly, if i get one more "HUGS" freaking letter or post i'm going to PUKE!!!
post #77 of 462
Have you listened to the Paradigm Signature Series?
The S1 and S2 are high value loudspeakers and they retain there price and they are typically available at a discount. The S8 is their top model.

A new problem with the Usher Dancer Series in that they don't hold their value . Here's a used pair of Be-718's going for less than US$750 / pair.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Usher-Audio-Be-7...3A1%7C294%3A50

The Revel Ultima2's are very high performance loudspeakers.

You can build your own Mini Dancer 2's with active electronics and DSP for less money than a new Pair of Be-718's.

TWEETER: Dayton Audio RS28A 2 x US$50 + shipping (use Express Mail Service)

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=275-130

WOOFER: Usher 8945A 7" Carbon Fiber/Paper Woofer 4 x US$100 + shipping (use EMS)

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=296-600

ELECTRONICS: 2 x Digmoda DDC520

http://www.s-m-audio.com/digmoda/DDC520.pdf

ENCLOSURE: User


You can then add a Sub(s) or build your own.

SUBWOOFER: User

ELECTRONICS: Digmoda DDC1000SW

http://www.s-m-audio.com/digmoda/DDC1000SW.pdf


The best speaker cable/wire is in the limit, no speaker cable/wire.
post #78 of 462
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Originally Posted by mowry View Post

A new problem with the Usher Dancer Series in that they don't hold their value . Here's a used pair of Be-718's going for less than US$750 / pair.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Usher-Audio-Be-7...3A1%7C294%3A50

Really? The price is $750 with 4.5 days left in an eBay auction and there's a problem with the entire Dancer series holding their value?

Oh, wait - it's up to $1000 now. And there is a reserve that hasn't been met. You didn't mention that part. Talk about having an agenda...
post #79 of 462
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Originally Posted by mowry View Post

You can build your own Mini Dancer 2's with active electronics and DSP for less money than a new Pair of Be-718's.

Agreed except that most of us don't have the capacity or more importantly the time to make a really nice furniture quality cabinet. With DIY you can always make it a lot cheapers than anything out there, it's just a matter of what you want to put in. So I guess at $1500 brand new the Be-718 isn't that bad of a deal afterall given the aesthetic and sound quality, even if it isn't real beryllium. This should be where integrators and ID guys come in. I for one wouldn't mind paying for the system you mentioned above shipped and assembled. People are selling amps based on ICE modules with very minimal if any modifications and they're really selling. The market is there...
post #80 of 462
Anyone running the Be-718 in a 5.1 setup with the Be-616? How's it sound?
post #81 of 462
Usher posted a document on their U.S. website addressing the Be issue:
http://www.usheraudiousa.com/docs/Be-Response.pdf

They suggest that they may end up shipping out new drivers to people, which if true, is nice I suppose.
post #82 of 462
Agree...I don't necessarily understand the DIY argument. It's apples vs. oranges.

There are tons of things out there that you can build yourself for less, but that's exactly the point. You have to do it yourself. Some people don't have the time / don't enjoy / don't know how / can't DIY. A company does research / design (even if minimal), builds a product, provides a warranty, sets up dealers where you can audition, has to pay salaries, etc. All that has to be paid for somehow. Don't like it? Fine, then DIY or buy from an ID company. And Usher is not the only company that has their drivers available...

Heck, I can make a pretty darn good steak at home if I wanted, but sometimes I go to a restaurant too.

And don't get the impression I'm against DIY. Love what people are doing with their subs and am would love to build a Linkwitz Orion.
post #83 of 462
Yea, frankly I'd rather be spending my time making more $ than DIY audio stuff. The farthest I'd go is custom painting my speakers at my workshop.
post #84 of 462
Does anybody know what stands are these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRWwpmewnAs
post #85 of 462
Anyone hear anything about the dedicated bass modules for the 718's. I'm getting real itchy for more bass for these speakers.
post #86 of 462
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Originally Posted by mowry View Post

Have you listened to the Paradigm Signature Series?
The S1 and S2 are high value loudspeakers and they retain there price and they are typically available at a discount. The S8 is their top model.

A new problem with the Usher Dancer Series in that they don't hold their value . Here's a used pair of Be-718's going for less than US$750 / pair.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Usher-Audio-Be-7...3A1%7C294%3A50

The Revel Ultima2's are very high performance loudspeakers.

You can build your own Mini Dancer 2's with active electronics and DSP for less money than a new Pair of Be-718's.

TWEETER: Dayton Audio RS28A 2 x US$50 + shipping (use Express Mail Service)

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=275-130

WOOFER: Usher 8945A 7" Carbon Fiber/Paper Woofer 4 x US$100 + shipping (use EMS)

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=296-600

ELECTRONICS: 2 x Digmoda DDC520

http://www.s-m-audio.com/digmoda/DDC520.pdf

ENCLOSURE: User


You can then add a Sub(s) or build your own.

SUBWOOFER: User

ELECTRONICS: Digmoda DDC1000SW

http://www.s-m-audio.com/digmoda/DDC1000SW.pdf


The best speaker cable/wire is in the limit, no speaker cable/wire.

Except that you left out arguably the most important part of the Be series, the Beryllium tweeter. Not to mention, that haphazardly slapping together a bunch of drivers from madisound/partsexpress is a sure-fire way to end up with a useless piece of furniture. I applaud the DIY crowd for having the time, skills, and patience to do what they do but you guys really need to quit it with the idiotic DIY suggestions at every corner.
post #87 of 462
Anyone heard the Mini Dancer Twos? I was curious how the ones and twos sound against the rest of the Dancer lineup.
post #88 of 462
For those interested in the BE-718, check EBAY. There is a new pair available for auction.
post #89 of 462
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Originally Posted by TNTguy View Post

Anyone heard the Mini Dancer Twos? I was curious how the ones and twos sound against the rest of the Dancer lineup.

Here's a recent article from AVGuide.

http://www.avguide.com/blog/first-lo...wo-loudspeaker
post #90 of 462
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Originally Posted by Craven More View Post

Here's a recent article from AVGuide.

http://www.avguide.com/blog/first-lo...wo-loudspeaker


Thanks for the link. I am looking forward to hearing what he has to say when he posts the full review in a month or so.
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