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post #211 of 1692
Yeah after reading the reviews, it looks like this isn't the receiver for me. I need all my HDMI ports to be able to play audio.
post #212 of 1692
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Look at the back of this budget Onkyo unit;

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR506-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0015M4G5C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1233349013&sr=8-2

It has 3 HDMI inputs and one output, you run your xbox, blu-ray and cable box into those 3 inputs and then run the monitor output on to the TV. You don't need to use every HDMI input on the TV.

It's actually the TX-SR576 (not the 506) that's the cheapest Onkyo that can process MPCM audio via HDMI (requires a player that has internal decoding). But the 606, because they make and sell so many more, is only a few dollars more and worth the price difference.
post #213 of 1692
I'm new to HDMI in my HT. I have a new 09FD coming.

What cable is "best" for two channel CD listening, HDMI, Coaxial, Optical?

I'm sure it's subjective, but are there any options out there?

I can assign either on my receiver but don't know if one clearly sounds better than the other.

I have reference quality Illuminati D-60 coax digital cable (for high end 2 channel systems) and wondered if it's worth using (or sell), or just keep it simple and use the HDMI cable that serves my DVD & Blu-Ray.

thanks
post #214 of 1692
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Why would you recommend a receiver that has HDMI pass-through?

My mistake, if it's truly pass-through and can't do any audio playback from connected HDMI sources then it's not a good idea to go with it.

I would be surprised though if that's actually how it works. It probably can do at least PCM from the HDMI hookups.
post #215 of 1692
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

My mistake, if it's truly pass-through and can't do any audio playback from connected HDMI sources then it's not a good idea to go with it.

I would be surprised though if that's actually how it works. It probably can do at least PCM from the HDMI hookups.

You might want to sit down for this.

The TX-SR506 does not process audio via HDMI.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=i

Note where it says "*separate audio connection necessary." That connection can be optical or coax digital, or 7.1 analog.

It wouldn't surprise me to see HDMI MPCM added to this level of Onkyo's line next year.
post #216 of 1692
Hello,

I have a Sony S-350 BD with latest firmware (15), a Samsung 52" LCD 52a630 model number, and a Yamaha receiver RX-V663.

I have my BD plugged into the receiver via HDMI cable and then another HDMI cable going into my Samsung.

The picture and sound are awesome, but....

How do I get the Dolby TrueHD light to come on my receiver to let me know I'm taking advantage of the best sound possible?

Thanks!
post #217 of 1692
I've been modernizing my three-year-old basement theater, one step at a time, and since my Blu-Ray player (a Samsung BD-P1500) will output DTS audio only via HDMI, I bought a new receiver (a Yamaha HTR-6140, same as RX-V463) with a couple of HDMI inputs to replace an older Onkyo 5.1 system that lacked HDMI in. It sounds pretty good to my ears, but the problem is, my projector (an Optoma H31) doesn't have an HDMI-in either, but does offer DVI-in, in addition to component inputs. I had been connecting the Samsung's HDMI out to the Optoma's DVI in, and the picture was really pretty good for 480p. But with the Samsung's HDMI-out now going to the Yamaha HDMI-in, there appears to be no way to route video out the Yamaha -- as soon as I connect my HDMI/DVI cable from the Yamaha's HDMI out to the Optoma's DVI in, I've got a nice picture but all the sound is gone. I can get the sound out of the Samsung and into the Yamaha via an optical cable, but then I'm back to two-channel audio.

So it appears that if I want DTS, etc., I've got to go HDMI -- but then getting the Samsung video to the Optoma Projector has to be done by the component video connections, which is how I've got it set up now. That works -- but I don't think the picture I'm seeing on the Optoma, with the video connected via the component ins, is as good as it was when I had the Samsung connected via HDMI/DVI. And the issue is complicated further because I've also got a Dish VIP722 to connect somewhere.

The obvious answer is to replace the Optoma H31 with a new 720 or 1080p projector that has a real HDMI-in that can utilize the Yamaha's HDMI-out. But I'm not quite ready to do that. Assuming I don't replace the projector tomorrow, does anybody know:

1. Would an HDMI splitter that routes one HDMI signal to two places (Monoprice sells them starting at $30) solve my problem? I'd then route the Blu-Ray HDMI out the Yamaha HDMI in for audio, and separately (via the splitter) to the Optoma's DVI in. Or would the fact that the Blu-Ray's HDMI out is connected to DVI, even via a splitter, still kill the HDMI audio on the Yamaha.

2. Do all AV receivers deal with HDMI as the Yamaha does -- killing the HDMI audio if anything other than a true HDMI monitor is connected to its HDMI video out -- and not permitting the use of the receiver's other video outs (Component, etc.) with HDMI audio coming in?

3. Is there any other solution to these limitations that I haven't thought of?
post #218 of 1692
I was playing "The Dark Knight" which has Dolby Digital 5.1 and TrueHD 5.1. However, my home theater unit says the audio is PCM 48k. Um... How?

I've got a Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player and a Sony HT-SS2300 home theater system (HTIB). My settings on the HT is to automatically detect audio codings based on the disc in the Blu-ray player. So, when I put in my "Sweeney Todd" DVD, it plays it in Dolby Digital 5.1. But when I put in "The Dark Knight" it plays it in PCM 48k, even if I select Dolby Digital 5.1 on the Blu-ray audio menu.

What could be going on? I've actually got no complaints with the audio quality, cause "TDK" sounds pretty good. But I would like some insight on what's going on. I've read the manuals front the back, so I've troubleshot as much as I could.

Thanks for any info!

PS,
I've tried other Blu-rays with it, some without PCM compatibility and some with, so it's not just "The Dark Knight" that's doing this.
post #219 of 1692
I don't know if your sony 350 has bitstream on if so set it to bitstream if your receiver can decode lossless sound, if not then set it to PCM so the player will decode, the 350 does not have a lot of decoding built in.

If it come up on your receiver PCM then that right your Player is decoding it, Yes you are getting Dolby True HD by sending trough LPCM
post #220 of 1692
PCM 48K you are still getting lossless. It could be that your HTIB is not HDMI 1.3 and has to send PCM. PCM or bitstreaming the lossless tracks will sound identical. IF your HTIB is HDMI 1.3, then check your player and receiver settings and set all to bitstream.
post #221 of 1692
i was wondering this same question...

sorry i'm a bit of noob...so i have my ps3 set to lpcm. you said it decodes it automatically on the ps3 so the light won't display on the receiver...

does that mean you're actually getting all the quality/benefits of listening to it in TrueHD still through the receiver...meaning am I actually listening to TrueHD quality through my speakers even though the receiver doesn't say it's decoding that?
post #222 of 1692
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Originally Posted by bluwater View Post

i was wondering this same question...

sorry i'm a bit of noob...so i have my ps3 set to lpcm. you said it decodes it automatically on the ps3 so the light won't display on the receiver...

does that mean you're actually getting all the quality/benefits of listening to it in TrueHD still through the receiver...meaning am I actually listening to TrueHD quality through my speakers even though the receiver doesn't say it's decoding that?

Yes
post #223 of 1692
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Originally Posted by skatalitegp View Post

I've got a Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player and a Sony HT-SS2300 home theater system (HTIB). My settings on the HT is to automatically detect audio codings based on the disc in the Blu-ray player. So, when I put in my "Sweeney Todd" DVD, it plays it in Dolby Digital 5.1. But when I put in "The Dark Knight" it plays it in PCM 48k, even if I select Dolby Digital 5.1 on the Blu-ray audio menu.

There's no PCM/Bitstream setting on the S350. The BD Audio setting is used instead.

How do you have BD Audio set? It would act as you describe if BD Audio were set to Mix. With Mix, the player always decodes and outputs PCM. If you set it to Direct, the output format is based on the HDMI handshake with your receiver. If the AVR has the needed decoder, the player bitstreams. If it doesn't, the player decodes and outputs PCM. I don't think the SS2300 has HD decoders. So, if you have BD Audio set to Direct, TrueHD tracks will be decoded by the S350. But, DD 5.1 and DTS tracks should be bitstreamed.
post #224 of 1692
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Originally Posted by JHolman View Post

I've been modernizing my three-year-old basement theater, one step at a time, and since my Blu-Ray player (a Samsung BD-P1500) will output DTS audio only via HDMI, I bought a new receiver (a Yamaha HTR-6140, same as RX-V463) with a couple of HDMI inputs to replace an older Onkyo 5.1 system that lacked HDMI in. It sounds pretty good to my ears, but the problem is, my projector (an Optoma H31) doesn't have an HDMI-in either, but does offer DVI-in, in addition to component inputs. I had been connecting the Samsung's HDMI out to the Optoma's DVI in, and the picture was really pretty good for 480p. But with the Samsung's HDMI-out now going to the Yamaha HDMI-in, there appears to be no way to route video out the Yamaha -- as soon as I connect my HDMI/DVI cable from the Yamaha's HDMI out to the Optoma's DVI in, I've got a nice picture but all the sound is gone. I can get the sound out of the Samsung and into the Yamaha via an optical cable, but then I'm back to two-channel audio.

So it appears that if I want DTS, etc., I've got to go HDMI -- but then getting the Samsung video to the Optoma Projector has to be done by the component video connections, which is how I've got it set up now. That works -- but I don't think the picture I'm seeing on the Optoma, with the video connected via the component ins, is as good as it was when I had the Samsung connected via HDMI/DVI. And the issue is complicated further because I've also got a Dish VIP722 to connect somewhere.

The obvious answer is to replace the Optoma H31 with a new 720 or 1080p projector that has a real HDMI-in that can utilize the Yamaha's HDMI-out. But I'm not quite ready to do that. Assuming I don’t replace the projector tomorrow, does anybody know:

1. Would an HDMI splitter that routes one HDMI signal to two places (Monoprice sells them starting at $30) solve my problem? I'd then route the Blu-Ray HDMI out the Yamaha HDMI in for audio, and separately (via the splitter) to the Optoma's DVI in. Or would the fact that the Blu-Ray's HDMI out is connected to DVI, even via a splitter, still kill the HDMI audio on the Yamaha.

2. Do all AV receivers deal with HDMI as the Yamaha does -- killing the HDMI audio if anything other than a true HDMI monitor is connected to its HDMI video out -- and not permitting the use of the receiver's other video outs (Component, etc.) with HDMI audio coming in?

3. Is there any other solution to these limitations that I haven't thought of?

I think before you go down any of these roads a better understanding of what your audio options are may be a better route initially.

First of all your 1500 will bitstream DTS via optical to your Yamaha and the receiver will decode the bitstream and you will have multi channel audio. You must have the 1500 set to bitstream reencode or bitstream audiophile for this to happen. If you have the 1500 set to PCM the 1500 will then decode the audio and send it via optical as 2 channel PCM. This is not a limitation of the 1500 but rather a limitation of optical audio - all BR players behave this way.

So with this in mind you may want to rethink your setup. My choice would be to use one of the bitstream options as the default. This will allow your receiver to decode the audio as multichannel from either the HDMI or optical audio input. For DTS your receiver will decode the 1500 kbs core which offers really great audio quality. Not lossless but excellent none the less. Then if/when you want to take advantage high def audio let the 1500 decode TrueHD (only for those discs that contain a TrueHD audio track) by setting the player to PCM. In this case the 1500 will decode the TrueHD and send it as multi channel PCM to your receiver via HDMI (as as 2 channel PCM via optical).
post #225 of 1692
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Originally Posted by JHolman View Post

I've been modernizing my three-year-old basement theater, one step at a time, and since my Blu-Ray player (a Samsung BD-P1500) will output DTS audio only via HDMI, I bought a new receiver (a Yamaha HTR-6140, same as RX-V463) with a couple of HDMI inputs to replace an older Onkyo 5.1 system that lacked HDMI in. It sounds pretty good to my ears, but the problem is, my projector (an Optoma H31) doesn't have an HDMI-in either, but does offer DVI-in, in addition to component inputs. I had been connecting the Samsung's HDMI out to the Optoma's DVI in, and the picture was really pretty good for 480p. But with the Samsung's HDMI-out now going to the Yamaha HDMI-in, there appears to be no way to route video out the Yamaha -- as soon as I connect my HDMI/DVI cable from the Yamaha's HDMI out to the Optoma's DVI in, I've got a nice picture but all the sound is gone. I can get the sound out of the Samsung and into the Yamaha via an optical cable, but then I'm back to two-channel audio.

So it appears that if I want DTS, etc., I've got to go HDMI -- but then getting the Samsung video to the Optoma Projector has to be done by the component video connections, which is how I've got it set up now. That works -- but I don't think the picture I'm seeing on the Optoma, with the video connected via the component ins, is as good as it was when I had the Samsung connected via HDMI/DVI. And the issue is complicated further because I've also got a Dish VIP722 to connect somewhere.

The obvious answer is to replace the Optoma H31 with a new 720 or 1080p projector that has a real HDMI-in that can utilize the Yamaha's HDMI-out. But I'm not quite ready to do that. Assuming I don't replace the projector tomorrow, does anybody know:

1. Would an HDMI splitter that routes one HDMI signal to two places (Monoprice sells them starting at $30) solve my problem? I'd then route the Blu-Ray HDMI out the Yamaha HDMI in for audio, and separately (via the splitter) to the Optoma's DVI in. Or would the fact that the Blu-Ray's HDMI out is connected to DVI, even via a splitter, still kill the HDMI audio on the Yamaha.

2. Do all AV receivers deal with HDMI as the Yamaha does -- killing the HDMI audio if anything other than a true HDMI monitor is connected to its HDMI video out -- and not permitting the use of the receiver's other video outs (Component, etc.) with HDMI audio coming in?

3. Is there any other solution to these limitations that I haven't thought of?

Your statement that you can't get DTS without an HDMI connection is misleading. There's no reason you can't get high bitrate DTS and Dolby Digital via an optical or coaxial connection from the BD player.

What you won't be getting is lossless audio, however many people can't tell the difference between DTS-MA and DD-True lossless tracks and the lossy DD or DTS tracks on the same disc.

Also, the issue that you describe with your audio being killed on the Yamaha when you go out to a DVI connection sometimes has workarounds, such as the installation of a better HDMI->DVI converter that will try to fool the AVR into thinking that there is an HDMI capable device at the other end so that the audio chain remains unbroken.

Honestly though the simplest solution for you is to just run HDMI->DVI to your PJ and just run optical audio out to your AVR with bitstreaming.

You won't be getting lossless but it will still sound better than DVD and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new PJ.
post #226 of 1692
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Your statement that you can't get DTS without an HDMI connection is misleading. There's no reason you can't get high bitrate DTS and Dolby Digital via an optical or coaxial connection from the BD player.

What you won't be getting is lossless audio, however many people can't tell the difference between DTS-MA and DD-True lossless tracks and the lossy DD or DTS tracks on the same disc.

Also, the issue that you describe with your audio being killed on the Yamaha when you go out to a DVI connection sometimes has workarounds, such as the installation of a better HDMI->DVI converter that will try to fool the AVR into thinking that there is an HDMI capable device at the other end so that the audio chain remains unbroken.

Honestly though the simplest solution for you is to just run HDMI->DVI to your PJ and just run optical audio out to your AVR with bitstreaming.

You won't be getting lossless but it will still sound better than DVD and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new PJ.

I agree. This probably makes the most sense. Optical to the receiver with the player set to bitstream and video directly to the projector.

But for the OP there may be one more thing to try. I have the HTR-6090 so I have a bit of familiarity with Yamaha receivers. The HTR-6140 has an HDMI Set option in the user settings. Under HDMI Set there is the Support Audio option. The choices are "HTR-6140" or "Other". If "Other" is selected the audio coming in via HDMI is passed on to a supported HDMI device. If it is set to "HTR-6140" the audio is not passed on. I would play around with this setting. Perhaps it is currently set to "Other" and because the audio is being sent to a non compliant device through an HDMI to DVI connection it may confuse the heck out of the receiver and kill the audio in the receiver. Who know just a guess. With this set to "HTR-6140" I really see no reason why the audio should not be audible from the receiver. If the video is getting through then not passing on the audio may be a quick fix.

Page 67 of the HTR-6140 manual.
post #227 of 1692
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Originally Posted by nextoo View Post

I agree. This probably makes the most sense. Optical to the receiver with the player set to bitstream and video directly to the projector.

But for the OP there may be one more thing to try. I have the HTR-6090 so I have a bit of familiarity with Yamaha receivers. The HTR-6140 has an HDMI Set option in the user settings. Under HDMI Set there is the Support Audio option. The choices are "HTR-6140" or "Other". If "Other" is selected the audio coming in via HDMI is passed on to a supported HDMI device. If it is set to "HTR-6140" the audio is not passed on. I would play around with this setting. Perhaps it is currently set to "Other" and because the audio is being sent to a non compliant device through an HDMI to DVI connection it may confuse the heck out of the receiver and kill the audio in the receiver. Who know just a guess. With this set to "HTR-6140" I really see no reason why the audio should not be audible from the receiver. If the video is getting through then not passing on the audio may be a quick fix.

Page 67 of the HTR-6140 manual.

That's an excellent idea, I also have a Yamaha AVR but hadn't thought about possible settings in the Yamaha set up that could affect this.
post #228 of 1692
I have two newbie, basic questions, which I have not seen definitively answered in these forums:

1) will I get any audio (i.e., regular 2-channel audio) through the HDMI connection between my tv (new Samsung A630 46" LCD) and Blu-ray player (say, a Sony BDP-S350)? (I'm still shopping for a receiver and speaker system) Does it have to be connected to a receiver?

2) if I'm getting a new receiver that decodes newest formats (e.g., DTS-MA), is there any benefit to getting a Blu-ray with on-board decoding, or can I save some $ and get one w/o the decoding (letting the receiver handle this)?

Thanks - and sorry if these have been answered...
post #229 of 1692
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Originally Posted by spoor View Post

I have two newbie, basic questions, which I have not seen definitively answered in these forums:

1) will I get any audio (i.e., regular 2-channel audio) through the HDMI connection between my tv (new Samsung A630 46" LCD) and Blu-ray player (say, a Sony BDP-S350)? (I'm still shopping for a receiver and speaker system) Does it have to be connected to a receiver?

2) if I'm getting a new receiver that decodes newest formats (e.g., DTS-MA), is there any benefit to getting a Blu-ray with on-board decoding, or can I save some $ and get one w/o the decoding (letting the receiver handle this)?

Thanks - and sorry if these have been answered...

1) It does not have to be connected to a receiver. So you will be fine connecting it directly to the HDTV.

2) If your receiver can decode the new audio formats then there is no need to have a player that can also decode the new formats. The decoding can only take place in one location. Either the player and sent as PCM via HDMI (or analog if so equipted) or by the the receiver which in this case the player will bitstream to the receiver and the receiver will decode.
post #230 of 1692
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Originally Posted by spoor View Post

I have two newbie, basic questions, which I have not seen definitively answered in these forums:

1) will I get any audio (i.e., regular 2-channel audio) through the HDMI connection between my tv (new Samsung A630 46" LCD) and Blu-ray player (say, a Sony BDP-S350)? (I'm still shopping for a receiver and speaker system) Does it have to be connected to a receiver?

Yes, if you go HDMI from the BD player to your AVR and then on to your TV, all over HDMI then you should get regular 2-channel audio on the TV in addition to getting surround sound on the AVR provided that the AVR you select has an option for passing the audio on to the end device of the HDMI chain (this is the default behavior for most AVRs).

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Originally Posted by spoor View Post

2) if I'm getting a new receiver that decodes newest formats (e.g., DTS-MA), is there any benefit to getting a Blu-ray with on-board decoding, or can I save some $ and get one w/o the decoding (letting the receiver handle this)?

Most players now support decoding of all formats. The advantage of having the decoding done in the player, (versus bitstreaming to the AVR) is that if you end up mixxing together multiple soundtracks (such as the original audio as well as director's commentary or other secondary audio tracks) then the BD player will be able to do the mixing and send the audio on to the AVR. If you are bitstreaming the audio then typically the uncompressed audio and secondary audio would not be mixed together, or the BD player might have to switch from the uncompressed track to a compressed one in order to mix the audio.

Thanks - and sorry if these have been answered...[/quote]
post #231 of 1692
Thanks nextoo and jmpage2 for your answers - very helpful!
post #232 of 1692
Hello All,
I have a question regarding 5.1/7.1 analogue rca connection that I have not been able to pin down a definitive answer to in this thread, or any other related BR-audio threads. (I did use the search so forgive me if it has been addressed). According to a salesman in a "high end" boutique shop, DTS-MA and DD True-HD CANNOT be decoded and passed over the analogue connection, even if the player is doing the proper decoding internally. The ONLY way to get the hi-res audio is through HDMI. According to him, this is due to copyright restrictions and you will only get the core decoded and sent over the analogue connections. I don't even know if that makes sense, what's the difference as far as copyright is concerned between DTS and DTS-MA? (I thought copyright applied to digital connections but I could have that backwards - I'm no expert). I was told this on 2 separate occasions in the same store, but have never heard/read this anywhere else. I was always under the impression that if the player can internally decode the HBR audio then it can be sent in all it's glory through the analogue connections. Has anyone else heard this?? This would be upsetting for those who have older non-hdmi recievers and were told that they would get DTS-MA etc decoded and sent over the 5.1/7.1 connections.......
I currently don't have the necessary gear to test this (PS3--> Marantz SR7500 via optical), but even if I could, how would I know what was REALLY being sent over the rca's?
post #233 of 1692
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Originally Posted by Timo11 View Post

Hello All,
I have a question regarding 5.1/7.1 analogue rca connection that I have not been able to pin down a definitive answer to in this thread, or any other related BR-audio threads. (I did use the search so forgive me if it has been addressed). According to a salesman in a "high end" boutique shop, DTS-MA and DD True-HD CANNOT be decoded and passed over the analogue connection, even if the player is doing the proper decoding internally. The ONLY way to get the hi-res audio is through HDMI. According to him, this is due to copyright restrictions and you will only get the core decoded and sent over the analogue connections. ?

he is an idiot. for audio signals, copyrighting and hdcp and copy protection and all that crap only has to do with digital signals, not analog signals. all players out there right now will due TreHD over the analogs and there are a few right now and hopefully more soon that will do DTS MA over analogs.
post #234 of 1692
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Originally Posted by Timo11 View Post

I currently don't have the necessary gear to test this (PS3--> Marantz SR7500 via optical), but even if I could, how would I know what was REALLY being sent over the rca's?

Well, first, they're wrong. If the player can decode it, it can send it over the analog outputs.

How would you know? One could answer: if you can't hear the difference, why does it matter?

Or you could check the player's onscreen display, which should tell you what the current audio track is.
post #235 of 1692
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Or you could check the player's onscreen display, which should tell you what the current audio track is.

Unfortunately, some players merely tell you what track was selected for playback, but they don't let you know when a lossy core or companion track is being used. That's the case with the BD55. But, I certainly agree that if you can't tell the difference without an on screen display ....
post #236 of 1692
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm glad to know what I originally thought I had understood was correct. Maybe I'll give them a call tomorrow to see why they have this position.....if I get around to it. I didn't pay much attention to his comment at the time (or the previous time for that matter, different guy, same store, about 8 months ago) as I was looking at pre/pros and not blu-ray players. It's actually a moot point for me as I'll hopefully be taking delivery of a NAD T175 tomorrow, (not from that store), I was just curious since I had not heard it from any other source.

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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

How would you know? One could answer: if you can't hear the difference, why does it matter?

Excellent point. I'm assuming that the analogue connection works in a similar way to digital in that whatever track is selected in the disc audio menu is decoded and sent through. The only way to determine if one is audibly better than the other would be to switch between a DD and DD-THD track (for example) with a player that tells you exactly what is being sent over the analogue connection... Has anyone using the 5.1/7.1 analogue connection with a player that gives precise track/decoding info tried this?

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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

Unfortunately, some players merely tell you what track was selected for playback, but they don't let you know when a lossy core or companion track is being used....

Not being familiar with what any given player will (or will not display), that is what I was wondering about.

Thanks again for the confirmation. (dtrell too)
post #237 of 1692
After getting advise in the "choose" thread, I have ordered a Sony 550. Now I find people are having bass issues with 7.1 analog?

Reasons for buying 550:
#1: My pre/pro does not have hdmi. I want to be able to use Dolby HD and DTS HD.
#2: My current player, Sony BDS-1, does a lousy job on standard DVD.

So I have two specific questions:
When using the 550 with 7.1 analog outputs, is there an issue with bass levels? And if there is, what is the fix?

When using the 550 with 7.1 analog outputs with 5.1 material, does it use Prologic or similar for the extra 2 channels?
post #238 of 1692
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Originally Posted by Timo11 View Post

Hello All,
According to a salesman in a "high end" boutique shop, DTS-MA and DD True-HD CANNOT be decoded and passed over the analogue connection, even if the player is doing the proper decoding internally. The ONLY way to get the hi-res audio is through HDMI. According to him, this is due to copyright restrictions and you will only get the core decoded and sent over the analogue connections.

Not only is this guy an idiot, but there's a very quick and simple way to prove him wrong.

Attach a Blu-Ray player to a receiver set up for 7.1.

Insert a 7.1 encoded Blu-Ray disc.

Hit play.

Since the core codecs only support 5.1, sound coming from all 8 channels means you're getting the whole thing.
post #239 of 1692
Before I lay out the big bucks, I need to know if the following setup will priovide me with the best use of a Blue Ray Player: A Sony BDP-550 player connected to a Sony STR-DG720 receiver via HDMI; then, Sony BDP-550 connected to HDTV via HDMI to DVI Cable (TV does not have HDMI input). Or, should I also connect the receiver to the TV via the HDMI to DVI cable? Will either of these conections work and give me the great sound and picture that make buying the BLue Ray player worth while. I really don't understand all the audio connection and play problems associatwed with Blue Ray. Thanks for any responses.
post #240 of 1692
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Originally Posted by Subic Squid View Post

Or, should I also connect the receiver to the TV via the HDMI to DVI cable?

Yes.

The receiver can handle surround PCM over HDMI so it should go well with the 550.
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