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Never mind, got an answer. (Thanks Dave!)

I am looking for some advice on a subwoofer set-up for my home theater / listening room.

The room is 16 x 20 x 9 = 2,880.

My system set up will be a Pioneer SC-27 with two wall mounted Vienna Acoustics Waltz speakers, with a Theatro center (may switch to a Maestro) and two Martin Logan Helos 100 in-ceiling speakers.

Magnolia is recommending an REL T-1 for the subwoofer.

I don't really care that much about thundering bass for movies, but I do care about good musicality and substantial bass presence for music or movie scores which integrates well with the Vienna Acoustics speakers.

Will an REL T-1 be "enough" and if not, what do you recommend?

Also, I found a used REL-305 available for sale for a bit less than a new T-1. Looking at the specs it appears to support 10MHz lower frequencies, has a class D amp, and no passive radiator, and retails for $400-500 more, but I'm not clear on what this means for sound???

Thanks

If anyone has a view on this, it would be very much appreciated.

BestBuy near my home is offering a Rel T2 display item at discount. Since it's a display item, there's nothing to come with it.

Where do you think I can buy the Neutrik Speakon cable? How much would it cost?

kwkshift- thanks for the input on the T-1, I'll give it a shot and like you say, possibly upgrade if there are any issues.

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Hi, I just purchased a new receiver (Yamaha RX-A2000) and went to hook up all of my stuff just to find that my sub, a Klipsch Sub-10 is done. Klipsch wants $120 to fix it and since I work at BBY part time I figured I might as well buy something new and upgrade. I was looking at the REL T-3. My understanding was that RELs were more geared towards music than movies. However, I did a demo comparing the REL T-3 to a DefTech Supercube III. In the opening scene of the first Transformers movie though both sounded good, I would say that with the REL you could feel more if that makes sense. That bass that you feel when you're watching in the theaters was what this felt like much more so than the DefTech. I wasn't planning on this purchase but I was just wondering everyones thoughts on using a REL T-3 for about 90% home theater use? What would be the benefits/detriments compared to just buying the same Klipsch 10" I had before. Sorry for being wordy but any help would be greatly appreciated.

Folks, please help me. I'm getting very annoying "subsonic rumble" or "rattle" when playing some CDs. The sub is Rel b2, it's two months old, and it's my first sub. Is it normal or there is some defect? Please advise. Thank you very much!

Not sure what your system configuration is, but for 2ch listening, I recommend using only the high level/Neutrik connection. Perhaps you also have the line level/RCA input connected as well. If that's the case, make sure your preamp/processor/AVR is NOT creating a mono sub signal w/your music. Hope this leads you in the right direction...

Hi Ed, it's a 2ch configuration, and I'm using HL Neutrik connection. I don't do HT.

What frequency do you have the high level crossed? Have you played with the sub's volume level?

I set it at 30hz. I tried to regulate the volume level, but when the rumble is there it does not help. BTW, that rattle is not always there, only with particular CDs. My speakers are Acoustic Zen Adagios (30hz-30khz).

My usual volume setting is 10-11 o'clock.

Thanks for your help. If nothing helps, is it possible that the sub is defective?

No, I have not. Somehow I wanted to believe that if it's defective the rumble should be on every CD. I guess it's not the case. I'll ask on other forums if anyone had this problem, then I'll contact the dealer, which is a drag, because I bought it online. Thank you very much.

How does this new T-5 compare to the T-3. From reading about it they almost make it appear that it is a superior sub.

Hi I live in Tucson and I am really looking into buying a REL sub to go with my T65 PSB speakers and my denon 2808ci. You have a store in PHX that sales REL? What would you recommend?

I bought a pair of Vienna Acoustics (VA) Mozart Grand as front speakers, a pair of VA Bach Grand as rears, a VA Theatro as center for my HT setup. And I am looking for a subwoofer now.

Someone at Vienna Acoustics Forum recommends me two T-3 subs, rather than a single T-2. What do you think of this recommendation, please?

Any other ideas, please? My budget for sub is under $1,000.

By the way, where is the best place to shop REL subs?

Thank you very much in advance!

Michael

Those are nice speakers, Michael. They seem to reach pretty low (32-35Hz), too.

I first started with one T-3 paired w/B&W 685 bookshelves, which made a remarkable difference w/the low end support. The 685s are rated down to around 50Hz, so I crossed the T-3 to about 60-65Hz. I couldn't detect any frequency gaps and was immensely satisified...until the upgrade bug bit!

I purchased a second T-3 and now connected the two in a mono configuration (one plays the L & the other plays the R channel). My little bookshelves are just astounding with the support of the subs. REL's Neutrik connection integrates the sub w/your speakers really well because it allows the subs to play exactly what your speakers are playing, albeit below whatever you cross it at. Apart from BK subwoofers (bkelec.com), I don't know of any other subwoofer that can use both high level (Neutrik) & low level (LFE) connections (and I don't know why) simultaneously.

The T-3's 8" woofer is fast, deep, responsive, and very musical. I use them for LFE as well, although I don't have a huge listening area. Of course if you want to go deeper and louder, there's always the T-2/T-1 and the R Series.

I'm very satisfied w/my T-3s. If the bass from a single T-3 already wasn't localized, my dual T-3s in mono have all but disappeared, practically turning my two-way bookshelves into full-range speakers.

A buddy of mine just picked up a T-1 from Magnolia/Best Buy to match his Paradigm Studio 20 bookshelves and I think his thirst for low end support for his speakers is pretty much quenched.

Have you heard the RELs at all, Micheal? You should audition them. Chances are you'd get the best deal from your local hifi shop rather than from a big box retailer like Magnolia/Best Buy. At current prices, you can get a T-1 for under $1k, definitely a T-2 under $1k and I wouldn't be surprised if two T-3s can be had for under $1k. Happy listening!

Thank you very much for thoughtful responses. I do appreciate invaluable insights.

I spoke to a Sumiko representative earlier today. He convinced me that two T5s would be the way to go. So I will drive up to San Francisco to check T5 out tomorrow morning. Will let you know how my audition goes.

Any last minute tip/suggestion as to two T5s setup with my VA speakers, please? Anyone had experience with T5 at all?

There don't seem to be many REL owners here..

Anyway, I am a proud owner of a REL B1 and a QuakeII (Quake got replaced by the B1 and is now playing in a HT setup in another room).

The B1 is hooked up to my 2.1 system with the HI level connection. My current main speakers are the Dynaudio BM6P studio monitors (will replace them soon with something better).

I own the B1 for a year now and I am still fiddling with the controls and placement to get the best bass extension, but I don't seem to get much below 30hz in my room. Moving the B1 around didn't make much difference. Well, at least I can still dream of ever hearing the claimed, ground shaking 13hz if I move to another house someday ;-)

The B1 does sound amazing for the frequencies I CAN hear