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post #331 of 743
Thanks.
I followed the direction from a member of another forum and holly cow, this sub made a huge difference.
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/imp...tem-t4551.html
post #332 of 743
Just bought a new REL T2 sub and am trying to figure out what to set the crossover at. am running a pioneer elite sc25 receiver with vienna acoustics mozarts as fronts, theatro center and waltz rears. my first time buying a good sub....
thanks
post #333 of 743
My neighbor has a REL T1 which I installed for her last year running on a 2.1 speaker setup. She has never had an issue with the sound on this setup until this last weekend and now all she is hearing is a constant humming sound coming from the T1 when she turns the SW power on.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
post #334 of 743
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Originally Posted by NYC Guy View Post

My neighbor has a REL T1 which I installed for her last year running on a 2.1 speaker setup. She has never had an issue with the sound on this setup until this last weekend and now all she is hearing is a constant humming sound coming from the T1 when she turns the SW power on.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I have similar instances. It's a ground loop that was causing mine. I had to fiddle around with the connection-Neutrix. Is she using an LFE sub RCA or the Neutrix connection?
post #335 of 743
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Originally Posted by palpitatn View Post

I have similar instances. It's a ground loop that was causing mine. I had to fiddle around with the connection-Neutrix. Is she using an LFE sub RCA or the Neutrix connection?

I am using the Rel Neutrik Custom subwoofer cable.
post #336 of 743
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Originally Posted by palpitatn View Post

I have similar instances. It's a ground loop that was causing mine. I had to fiddle around with the connection-Neutrix. Is she using an LFE sub RCA or the Neutrix connection?

I went over to her apartment tonight and disconnected the Neutrix plug and then reconnected it. The humming noise was still there.
post #337 of 743
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I went over to her apartment tonight and disconnected the Neutrix plug and then reconnected it. The humming noise was still there.

Couple basic questions. How is the Neutrik hooked up to the power amp/receiver? Where is the black ground cable connected? Which input is the Neutrik plugged into?

I had to try different things to get rid of the hum. We can go step by step if you want to PM me.

You can also call Sumiko. Their customer service is very good.
post #338 of 743
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Originally Posted by palpitatn View Post

Couple basic questions. How is the Neutrik hooked up to the power amp/receiver? Where is the black ground cable connected? Which input is the Neutrik plugged into?

I had to try different things to get rid of the hum. We can go step by step if you want to PM me.

You can also call Sumiko. Their customer service is very good.

It is wired precisely as instructed in the manual and had been working fine for a year and a half until this last weekend. The red wire is connected to the receiver's main right speaker red terminal, the yellow wire to the receiver's main left speaker red terminal and the black wire to the receiver's main right speaker black terminal. I even switched the black wire to the main left speaker black terminal and it still hummed. I double checked all the wiring and nothing had been touched.

We called the audio dealer as it is still under the REL 3 year warranty and they asked us to bring it over to test on their equipment. It the sound persists they will send it into REL for repair.
post #339 of 743
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Originally Posted by rezalon View Post

Just bought a new REL T2 sub and am trying to figure out what to set the crossover at. am running a pioneer elite sc25 receiver with vienna acoustics mozarts as fronts, theatro center and waltz rears. my first time buying a good sub....
thanks

please post back once you set it up im also considering REL for my viennas ( right now i have a outlaw sub) i was thinking the new series T in piano white.
post #340 of 743
anyone know differences between T series and new serie T subwoofer. im considering ether T3 or the new serie T-5
post #341 of 743
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Originally Posted by nosferatu2xlc View Post

anyone know differences between T series and new serie T subwoofer. im considering ether T3 or the new serie T-5

You can see all the specs online at the REL site. The new t-5 looks more powerful and a nicer cabinet.
post #342 of 743
I'm about to join the ranks. About three months ago I home auditioned a REL R-218 with a pair of Dynaudio Audience 52Se speakers for my analog 2-channel system. I really liked it but ended up replacing the speakers with a pair of Dynaudio Contour S1.4 and Stand4 instead of adding a sub. While the Contours are fantastic, I've been thinking lately that classical music sounds a bit thin on the bottom and started thinking about a sub again, especially since I have added a power amp very capable in the deep bass.

I've been home auditioning a Serie T-5 this weekend and decided I like it it enough to get one. Tomorrow I plan to place my order, but think I may even bump it up a notch and order the T-7. Looking forward to hearing that, hopefully later in the week.

The rest of my system:
Rega RP3/TTPSU
Dynavector 20x2-H
Simaudio Moon 110LP
Naim UnitiQute
Naim NAP250-2
Dynaudio Contour S1.4 w/Stand4
post #343 of 743
Thread Starter 
Nice. What are your thoughts on the T-5?
post #344 of 743
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Nice. What are your thoughts on the T-5?

I think the T-5 is fantastic for the price. It's fast, straightforward to setup (as subs go) and sounds great with my Dynaudios. It's certainly adequate to my needs, but I figured I can swing another few hundred for the T-7 for improved quality, especially since I'm matching it with $4K speakers.
post #345 of 743
My T-7 is ordered. Should be here later this week or early next week.

What are people using for the Neutrik Speakon cable. I was thinking about the one from SignalCable for about $90.
post #346 of 743
Hi, almost at the same price but in technical setup a bit different, the T3 and T5.
What would a better sub be in a small room and for the use of music (speakon) and movie (LFE), T3 or T5 ?

Thx
post #347 of 743
I am using the same cable that came with the sub.
post #348 of 743
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I am using the same cable that came with the sub.

I ended up getting a custom cable made from Transparent Audio speaker cable and Cardas connectors.
post #349 of 743
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

I ended up getting a custom cable made from Transparent Audio speaker cable and Cardas connectors.

is it better than the one that came with Sub?
post #350 of 743
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Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post

Hi, almost at the same price but in technical setup a bit different, the T3 and T5.
What would a better sub be in a small room and for the use of music (speakon) and movie (LFE), T3 or T5 ?

Thx

I have a T3 in a ~1200 cubic foot room and it more than does the job for music.
post #351 of 743
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is it better than the one that came with Sub?

I don't know. I never used the supplied cable long enough to make a comparison. This is just one of those things where people I trust suggested a better cable was worth getting so I got one.
post #352 of 743
I may have just missed this but,

I am using Blue Jeans cables with banana plugs on both ends to hook my stereo pair to the amp.
My question is can I attach the the Neutrik cable to the amps while using the banana plugs? It appears that I would need to use bare wire at my Pioneer receiver as I do not think you can use spades.
I guess it comes down to can you use both bare wire and bananas at the same time?
Thanks
post #353 of 743
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Originally Posted by Richard in Idaho View Post

I may have just missed this but,

I am using Blue Jeans cables with banana plugs on both ends to hook my stereo pair to the amp.
My question is can I attach the the Neutrik cable to the amps while using the banana plugs? It appears that I would need to use bare wire at my Pioneer receiver as I do not think you can use spades.
I guess it comes down to can you use both bare wire and bananas at the same time?
Thanks

I use the Cardas Double Banana plugs. My regular speaker cable has bananas and my REL Neutrik cable is terminated with spades. The Cardas connector takes both and plugs into the banana connector on the amp. Works beautifully. The connector will also accept bare wire if you don't want to terminate with spades.
post #354 of 743
First off, if this post is repeated, apologies. I am finding my B3 a nice finishing touch for my Opera Secondas. The pc review article stating a very low cutoff 20/25 hz being used is interesting since real world setups aren't anywhere near that. I automatically would assume something around 30-40hz for all but the most exotic speakers. Specs aren't accurate so using your ears seem to be the best judge. Are you guys finding your acceptable adjustment that low? My setting is at 30(my "spec" freq) I can't however, hear a sonic difference at 25 so I just leave it.
What about the aftermarket neutrik cables? Are you finding them an actual sonic tweak? I did the Mapleshade 4" plank/brass feet underneath. I did it more for aesthetics(for the price, the feet as very cheesy) Bass is "tighter" with mod. The neutik cable is clearly a CHINESE product. Printed on the cable! Sounds fine, but at over 2k retail REALLY? Other forums conclusions are aftermarket cables are another waste of money regarding actual sonics. They do look pretty!
Absolutely NOTHING is 100% made where the box says its made.
post #355 of 743
Last minute addition to my post. l haven't found a "set and forget" gain setting since
recording levels in the actual music varies. I will bump it a notch or two up or down depending on whats on my table/cd. A remote would be awesome but, I live with it. Anyone experiencing similar results?
post #356 of 743
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l haven't found a "set and forget" gain setting since
recording levels in the actual music varies. I will bump it a notch or two up or down depending on whats on my table/cd. A remote would be awesome but, I live with it. Anyone experiencing similar results?

I set my gain to fit the type of music I mostly listen to which is rock. It does end up sounding a little anemic for dance/rap music though. A remote would be nice but then I'd probably end up spending my time fiddling with it rather than listening to the music. You almost need a sub that's able to self-adjust based on the type of music being played, on the volume level set on the receiver and on the room it's located in...that would be the ideal distraction-free way to listen.
post #357 of 743
Hi folks,

Has anyone auditioned the Gibraltar G1 vs the prior B1? I can find little info.

I have a B1 and B2 and would really like matching pairs up front and use the B series for center and rears or sell them. I could pick up a B1 on Audiogon as they are out of production now but am curious about the Gibraltar line.

I know there are many sub choices out there like JL etc and hate to admit it but I am a REL fan and just don't see myself switching. The B series has blended in with my mains beautifully.

Just no info out there. Price and competition I'm sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NXj2IitqpI

Thanks Rick
post #358 of 743
Is there REALLY that much audible difference with those modelsl? I guess I don't have a discerning ear when it comes to subs at this level. I like my B3 yet, I can't imagine other than a 2nd(to balance overall ) a real improvement in sonics. You already have a superb model. Location and setup isn't satisfying?
Other than upgradeitis I don't understand.
post #359 of 743
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Originally Posted by dirtyvinyl View Post

Is there REALLY that much audible difference with those modelsl? I guess I don't have a discerning ear when it comes to subs at this level. I like my B3 yet, I can't imagine other than a 2nd(to balance overall ) a real improvement in sonics. You already have a superb model. Location and setup isn't satisfying?
Other than upgradeitis I don't understand.

Hi-pretty much aesthetics at this point. I purchased the B2 and it was fantastic with stereo but I always felt with the 10inch driver that perhaps I wasn't getting all I could for HT. RELs are fantastic and some of the best for stereo but there are times for HT I wanted more

I then purchased a B1 later and it is truly a great sub. Stereo 2.1 is just as great as it was and HT is at a much higher level. The B1 has played out to be a really good performer for me all around.

I have the B2 boxed and in my closet. It is like new. I keep telling myself to sell it but then change my mind. It took several years of building a piece at a time but my set-up is now done. Now I can consider things like the matching sub for the front. I do want to try two subs up front as I think it will add to the overall quality and dispersion of bass. This is the one time that aesthetics do come into play for me. I do not want different size subs in the front of my room. It annoys me what can I say? The B2 looks considerably smaller than B1.

I can look to Audiogon for a second B1 but I am also curious about these latest offerings from REL. I am curious how they compare to the B1s. And I think they are beautiful and the remote may help with fine tuning and not going behind the sub in tight spaces to make minor adjustments. I think the remote is a good idea although it is round and ugly (-:

Rick
post #360 of 743
At this level, I agree, aesthetics are part of the deal. The top dog doesn't have
a wood veneer option for that very reason, I wouldn't consider it. For the last bit of umph, the 12s are it. IME if only using 1 sub, just behind the listening position is ideal.
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