Originally Posted by TWinbrook46636
I guess those of us with the Sony HD DVRs are out of luck then. We don't want to use the DTVpal as a tuner but simply as a means of converting the complete digital TVGOS signal to a complete analog TVGOS signal for use with the Sony's tuner. The Sony already has a digital tuner but uses the analog TVGOS signal. It sounds like the DTVpal simply takes the complete digital TVGOS signal and creates a very limited set of listings from it based only on what the DTVpal tuner receives or perhaps the local OTA channels for a general broadcast area and passes those through. I thought it would convert the whole digital TVGOS signal.
It depends on what TVGOS data the DTVPal passes to the unit it is serving. From what I gather, it is likely that the Dony 250/500 WILL be able to get its TVGOS data directly from the CBS digital station that is broadcasting it, once the PBS analog station is no longer doing so. A couple of people frequenting the thread on these devices seem to have demonstrated this, which makes me hopeful, because I have one of them.
The LG3410a is an intermediate case, with a digital tuner, high-def display and recording, but able to get the TVGOS data only from an analog station. It may be that the DTVPal supplies TVGOS data only of the kind you describe, but I suspect, instead, that Gemstar will broadcast a complete set of data as it does now, supplying the correct array of program data for each zip code, but that added to this will be the mocked up set with the fake zip code for the metropolitan area, consisting of program data for the broadcast channels, but with made up channel numbers that the analog devices can recognize. If this slightly enlarged TVGOS data set is sent to the TVGOS device, it simply picks out the limited data set needed for using the broadcast channels that the DTVPal will convert for its use.
But this, as you indicate, isn't the data that either the Sony or the LG needs. They need the ordinary data set associated with their real zip codes, and they don't need the DTVPAL to tune to the station the TVGOS device is being used for viewing or recording. So if the DTVPal searches out and finds the digital channel that is carrying the TVGOS data, and provides the full data ass part of a recognizable channel or output, that - along with the digital channels coming from the antenna - is what these devices need to function. I hope that in fact THAT is what the DTVPal is designed to provide, and that the ordinary sets of program data will be what are useful for digital devices, but that pure analog devices will select, instead, the data for the fake zip code, with the fake channel numbers, with which these devices can control the DTVPal as a tuner.
The digital TVGOS devices will then use the ordinary program data, using them directly for viewing or recording program that are selected via the TV Guide and receive by their own tuners, just as now. (This contrasts with how the analog TVGOS devices would operate from the made-up program guide, which would feedback instructions to the DTVPal to tune the channel on which the selected program will appear, and to convert the signal to analog form for use of the analog device.