or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Home Entertainment & Theater Builder › Dedicated Theater Design & Construction › Middle Atlantic Custom Faceplates
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Middle Atlantic Custom Faceplates - Page 3

post #61 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Poindexter View Post

Racks are pretty well standardized so any 19" shelf should work with a middle atlantic rack or any other 19" rack for that matter as long as the rack is deep enough.

Should have been a little more clear, I'm talking about the custom faceplate to be used with any standard shelf. Or is the custom faceplate only to work with the RSH shelf only?
post #62 of 99
I explained a few posts back how this is possible, though of course not as the quick and preferred solution as getting the whole RSH package is. Most local machine shops have the ability for say $5-10 each to modify the tabs so that the faceplate can be flush-mounted over the face of your component if it is mounted on a standard shelf. If you do not already have shelves, or just a couple of them, then I doubt it would be worth your effort to try to circumvent it in this way.
post #63 of 99
Yeah, it really is best to just use the faceplates with the middle Atlantic rsh shelves.
post #64 of 99
I used the MA faceplates on the MA knock down shelves rather than the RSH version. The only reason was I had a few I bought dirt cheap and gave the plates a try. I think they were the KD line. The big thing is the sides have to come off.

http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac...shelves3.htm#1
post #65 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovebohn View Post

I used the MA faceplates on the MA knock down shelves rather than the RSH version. The only reason was I had a few I bought dirt cheap and gave the plates a try. I think they were the KD line. The big thing is the sides have to come off.

http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac...shelves3.htm#1

If you took the sides off then how is it screwed onto the rack?
post #66 of 99
Sorry you have to take the sides off to get the faceplate on, then reattach them to mount to the rack.
post #67 of 99
Hey Canucks! Where did you get your custom shelves?
post #68 of 99
Looking to get custom shelves/face plates in Canada, anyone?

stayonline.com won't ship to Canada.
post #69 of 99
Looking for Canada too!
post #70 of 99
I bought all my MA custom shelf / faceplates from Performanceaudio.com, and they appear to ship to Canada. Although you should certainly try sending a note to AV Science first... biggrin.gif
post #71 of 99
Almost time for the new consoles. Anyone heard any word on when Middle Atlantic will have faceplates for the Xbox One and PS4?
post #72 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcritch View Post

Almost time for the new consoles. Anyone heard any word on when Middle Atlantic will have faceplates for the Xbox One and PS4?

I would assume almost immediately... They had one for the Xbox slim within a few weeks of release, these consoles are much bigger releases, won't take them long.

If you're replacing a console with a faceplate remember that MA offers just the faceplate portion of the RSH shelves - cheaper than replacing the whole thing.
post #73 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by jautor View Post

...If you're replacing a console with a faceplate remember that MA offers just the faceplate portion of the RSH shelves - cheaper than replacing the whole thing.

Good tip. I have ordered many-a-faceplate without the shelf portion. Saves a little $$$ http://www.avsforum.com/t/850623/jjs-home-theater-construction-begins/90#post_13280384
post #74 of 99
So, other than the RSH shelves, do any of the other MA shelves work with custom faceplates without modification of the plate? Specifically, I'm looking for shelves I can buy now that will work with my rolling Gator case, but will allow me to add faceplates later. Since it's a portable case I would have to use a clamping shelf to secure the equipment.
post #75 of 99
Who's going to take one for the team and send in their Playstation 4 to have a faceplate made!?
post #76 of 99
I actually could if the turn around is quick. Wife and I got one for her brother for Xmas so will just be sitting until dec 25. If could let me know details on what to do/contact etc... I'll see what can do as ill need faceplate myself.
post #77 of 99
I don't think it will be long before this shows up in the database on its own. The new TiVo Roamios just came out a month or two ago, and they're already in the database. Popular items don't take long.
post #78 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAstronaut View Post

So, other than the RSH shelves, do any of the other MA shelves work with custom faceplates without modification of the plate? Specifically, I'm looking for shelves I can buy now that will work with my rolling Gator case, but will allow me to add faceplates later. Since it's a portable case I would have to use a clamping shelf to secure the equipment.

Hate bumping my own posts, but it's been over a week so I don't feel like I'm nagging.

Maybe if I re-phrase a little bit:

From what I can tell MA makes their custom RSH series shelfs from parts that are available as separate items. Does anyone know which items (catalog #'s would be super helpful) go into making an RSH shelf? From what I've read in this thread already, I know it has to be possible to dismantle the shelf in order to install the faceplate so the plain bent-steel shelves are out.

I'd really like to do this project the right way, but the ~$140 price tag for each shelf is a little steep to purchase up front. If I can buy what I need as I go, I can still wind up with a beautiful setup in the end. smile.gif
post #79 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAstronaut View Post

Hate bumping my own posts, but it's been over a week so I don't feel like I'm nagging.

Maybe if I re-phrase a little bit:

From what I can tell MA makes their custom RSH series shelfs from parts that are available as separate items. Does anyone know which items (catalog #'s would be super helpful) go into making an RSH shelf? From what I've read in this thread already, I know it has to be possible to dismantle the shelf in order to install the faceplate so the plain bent-steel shelves are out.

I'd really like to do this project the right way, but the ~$140 price tag for each shelf is a little steep to purchase up front. If I can buy what I need as I go, I can still wind up with a beautiful setup in the end. smile.gif

Short answer - no. The faceplate is an integral part of the RSH shelf structure... And you can get the shelves for less than that.
Edited by jautor - 11/14/13 at 9:29pm
post #80 of 99
I don't believe that's correct. You can order the faceplates separately (Part # AFACE) from the complete custom rackmount assembly. The rack shelf is one of the standard MA products.
post #81 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeBon View Post

I don't believe that's correct. You can order the faceplates separately (Part # AFACE) from the complete custom rackmount assembly. The rack shelf is one of the standard MA products.

LeBon, the RSH shelf isn't the same as the other shelves (which was the OP's question - that wasn't made clear in his follow-up post). Yes you can order the faceplates separately - to effectively recycle the rest of the RSH parts with a different component / matching faceplate. But AFAIK, the faceplate won't work on a standard rackshelf (meaning, anything except an RSH). The faceplate is the front of the shelf, not a decorative element placed over the structural element.

The OP was wanting to start with inexpensive shelves and later, add the custom faceplates as budget allows. I don't believe you can do that.

Jeff
post #82 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by jautor View Post

LeBon, the RSH shelf isn't the same as the other shelves (which was the OP's question - that wasn't made clear in his follow-up post). Yes you can order the faceplates separately - to effectively recycle the rest of the RSH parts with a different component / matching faceplate. But AFAIK, the faceplate won't work on a standard rackshelf (meaning, anything except an RSH). The faceplate is the front of the shelf, not a decorative element placed over the structural element.

The OP was wanting to start with inexpensive shelves and later, add the custom faceplates as budget allows. I don't believe you can do that.

Jeff

No Jeff, you are wrong on this one. You are correct that the RSH shelves are probably the only ones that will work with the faceplates, however, the faceplate is not an integral structural component to the shelf.

These pictures show the faceplate on the front of the shelf


and the shelf alone without the faceplate:


You can put the shelf in the rack without the faceplate. The faceplate adds little if any structural integrity to the shelf itself. Unfortunately TheAstronaut, I think you will have a hard time finding an inexpensive shelf that will work with the faceplate. (Can't find separate part numbers for the three individual shelf components)
The faceplates themselves are $85 anyway http://www.performanceaudio.com/item/Middle-Atlantic-Products-AFACE-2-5-Spaces/3442/



As for the PS4 faceplate. Anybody who wants to volunteer, email Michael Cukrow at mcukrow@middleatlantic.com.
Edited by jjcritch - 11/17/13 at 11:46am
post #83 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcritch View Post

No Jeff, you are wrong on this one. You are correct that the RSH shelves are probably the only ones that will work with the faceplates, however, the faceplate is not an integral structural component to the shelf.

Ok, that's what I get for giving a "short answer"... Yes, you can install the RSH shelves without the faceplate, but the larger (taller) shelves become a bit difficult to get into place without the faceplate holding the sides plumb at the top. I'll contend they are structural since they provide that stability - they're not "purely decorative". But you're correct that they certainly aren't adding critical amounts of support.

But yeah, it's a probably a moot point anyway - since fitting the faceplates onto anything other than an RSH shelf isn't going to work.

Note also that if an RSH shelf is installed without a faceplace, you'll most likely have to remove the shelf / equipment to attach the faceplate - is does NOT just affix to the front.

Jeff
post #84 of 99
I think the rackshelf used in the RSH custom rackshelf is the MA Vented Universal UN-V, where "N" is the number of rack units of height. I just put together a 3-unit RSH, and Jautor is correct that you need to take the side brackets off the bottom shelf to install the custom faceplate.

We all want Jeff to be wrong, so we can save money, but I would agree with him that the custom faceplates would probably not fit other than MA rackshelves. Only way to know would be to buy and try...
post #85 of 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeBon View Post

We all want Jeff to be wrong, so we can save money

At least it's for the right reason! biggrin.gif
post #86 of 99
Thanks for the response guys! I guess I should've been a little more clear in my posts by stating that I don't mind using MA only shelves. I was really just trying to find out if there was a model of clamping shelf that could be upgraded with a AFACE part at a later time. Based on some posts earlier in this thread it seems that a MA shelf with removable sides might be compatible with the AFACE part.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeBon View Post

I think the rackshelf used in the RSH custom rackshelf is the MA Vented Universal UN-V, where "N" is the number of rack units of height. I just put together a 3-unit RSH, and Jautor is correct that you need to take the side brackets off the bottom shelf to install the custom faceplate.

We all want Jeff to be wrong, so we can save money, but I would agree with him that the custom faceplates would probably not fit other than MA rackshelves. Only way to know would be to buy and try...

LeBon, I'm hoping you are right, from what pictures I've seen, there doesn't seem to be much visual difference between their "standard" shelves and the RSH ones. I know how much mfg's love to use interchangeable parts to keep production costs down. I guess I may just need to call or email MA directly and ask.

If anyone has a solid contact at MA that could answer my questions without trying to sell me something or redirecting me to an authorized reseller, please send me a PM.


Edit: Added here a quote from earlier in the thread detailing the mounting process.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Poindexter View Post


Not to start an arguement, but I don't know how you consider yourself a Middle Atlantic guru and not know how their RSH shelves go together.


You assemble the shelf by sliding the sides through a part of the face plate protruding from the back of it and then setting the base on top of the little lip of the side pieces. 4 included screws hold it together with nuts on the top and they even include a small wrengh. Set your component on the shelf, slide it into the opening to protrude a little and then place a couple included braces on the back side so the component will not slide back when you push buttons. They are also screwed down with the same screw/nut combo used on the shelf assembly. There is an option for a top brack to keep the component from lifting up if you are mounting it in a mobile rack like a rolling DJ setup.


Take the assembled shelf and component and place it into the rack and screw it in. Generally it will take 4 screws but some of the larger shelves will have more screw holes, especially if they are heavy amp racks shelves. I have a 119lb amplifier in a Mid Atlantic RSH 6U shelf and it has had no problems in over 3 years.

Edited by TheAstronaut - 11/18/13 at 7:51am
post #87 of 99
Hello,

Face plates can be ordered on there on. I order them all of the time. Aface is the number we used followed by the equipment model number.

If you are trying to save some cash but a shelf and face from Ebay, discard face and add your new one. I have scored shelfs for as low as 10.00

Make sure you get the right u's Each u (unit) is 1.75" tall.

http://www.middleatlantic.com/rsh/rshcus2.htm

Hope this helps.

Tyler
post #88 of 99
I didn't send my PS4 in, but since the shape is far more reasonable than the PS3, I verified the official Sony measurements and passed them over. Thanks to customavrack.com and their awesome service, I received it today and installed a few minutes ago.

You'll need to be careful because the removable glossy piece of plastic scrapes up far more easily than the matte (no surprise), but I'm guessing that could be replaced if it got bad enough. I'll probably use some plastic car trim polish on it that should make it look new. One pleasant surprise is that that it is a 2U plate vs the 3U of the fat PS3 it replaced in my rack.

Another thing to be aware of is because of the angled back of the PS4, it's tricky to use the stop brackets without the PS4 wanting to rise up when you push against it. Given I'm going all digital downloads and no discs, I don't think I'll really ever touch the front of it, so it shouldn't matter. You'll note I grabbed a L shaped USB cable to route it back inside the rack.

post #89 of 99

Thanks for sharing Drew_N.  I was just wondering if anyone had a faceplate made for the PS4 yet.  Right now I have it in the theater and have been debating if it will stay in there.  My kids are avid gamers and I am worried about burning through the bulb on the pojector.

 

If I do leave it in there, I want to order the custom faceplate.  I have to admit, the amazing sound, huge picture and shakers on the chairs make a huge difference.  It would be hard to move it to a smaller tv.

post #90 of 99
Just got off the phone with tech support over at MA. It sounds like the RSH self is definitely a unique shelf that is designed to accommodate the AFACE custom faceplate. The shelf by itself can be purchased separately, under the RSHx-SUB designator, though they do not mention it in the parts listing on the website. The gentleman I talked to told me that buying the SUB shelf item and adding a faceplate at a later time would probably be more expensive than just buying the whole assembly as a unit.

Since I am trying to do my project as cheaply as possible, I think I'll hit up flea-bay to see if I can find a SUB shelf used for a decent price, and purchase the clamping kits and faceplates from an authorized dealer at later when I have enough money to do so.

Hope that helps clear things up a bit!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
AVS › AVS Forum › Home Entertainment & Theater Builder › Dedicated Theater Design & Construction › Middle Atlantic Custom Faceplates