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post #31 of 1627
Optivity....
If you think that all of the polls on this site are a truely accurate representation of the facts, across almost all forums, I would disagree.
And I never said anyone would lie, I was implying that some either embelish or deny in polls.
post #32 of 1627
I got my 6020 last week and I hear the buzz. I don't think the pitch of the buzz is that high and I can hear it all over my room. From the front, side, back, eye-level, below eye-level. I am breakin in the set now and it really becomes annoying since there is no sound. I had to watch a movie to calm myself down.

I have a dimming halogen light in my son's bedroom and it buzzes exactly like the 6020 when dimmed low. I couldn't stop hearing the buzz from the light now that I have the 6020 buzz on my mind. I had to buy a night-light to replace it. I blame my buzz phobia on this forum.

I will have to test the powersave mode when I'm done breakin the tv in.
post #33 of 1627
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

Because if this poll can remain somewhat accurate it allows for Pionner to be made aware of shortcomings in order to produce an even better panel the next generation.
At least, that's why I would like it to stay close to accurate.

the best way is for pioneer plasma owners with a buzz issue to call in and get a service tech sent out no matter the generation.


again though a problem i have with roberts post, What if the service tech can't hear it? get another service and another until one can hear it???
post #34 of 1627
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

I apologize drfoo....I got ahead of myself there. Just concerned over the polls numbers being as accurate as possible to help everyone in the future and there are many people who take much time to bash Pioneer.
Again I apologize.

No biggie. I understand and appreciate your concern.

This is my first Pioneer and my second plasma. A had a Panasonic several years ago. I have two Sony 40" LCD's and one old Sharp 32" LCD that I enjoy for watching TV with the family and in the bedroom. The are awesome for casual viewing, relatively low cost, and I don't have to fret about the young kids causing damage to them!

For movies, however, the LCD just has not been the experience I am wanting. The PRO-151fd is nothing short of amazing and I hope that my replacement unit will let me add 1 to the no buzz count!
post #35 of 1627
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

If you think that all of the polls on this site are a truely accurate representation of the facts, across almost all forums, I would disagree.

There is no poll in this Forum that meets the criteria necessary to be considered scientifically accurate.
post #36 of 1627
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

True, I hope just as much that people that do own a 9g and have audible buzzing express that truthfully.
As 'accurate' as poosible is the best way for this poll to do any good.


Either way, i believe some of the members here who say the buzz is pretty loud, definitely louder than a normal plasma. But i also think you could get a good one that's normal for plasma.
post #37 of 1627
Truthful opinion then.
post #38 of 1627
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Won't this further "dim" the picture rendered by any FD Kuro PDP, which is not that "bright" to begin with?

Keep reading the post. Past that sentence.
post #39 of 1627
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Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

the best way is for pioneer plasma owners with a buzz issue to call in and get a service tech sent out no matter the generation.


again though a problem i have with roberts post, What if the service tech can't hear it? get another service and another until one can hear it???

Whoever gets a Pioneer tech to come take a look at the set due to the buzz needs to make sure that the tech sits directly in front of the set at eye-level.

If a tech was to come take a look at mine, He would only consider the buzz normal while standing up anywhere in front of the TV.

The tech needs to sit directly "in the line of fire".
post #40 of 1627
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

Keep reading the post. Past that sentence.

Sorry, I did not get past those super BIG letters in your post.

I don't know about the 9Gs, but I do not like the decrease in image brightness w/power mode(s) enabled on my PRO-150FD and to me it is unacceptable to have to trade picture quality to obtain less "buzz" for a $5000 TV.
post #41 of 1627
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post


BTW, you have great hearing.

For me the buzz was extremely directional. Apparently I had the tv at just the right height and when sitting in the "sweet" spot directly in front of my tv the buzz was very loud. I sit about 12' away. Now when I stood up or moved over a spot, the buzz was no longer apparent. FWIW.

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Go Twins!



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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Sorry, I did not get past those super BIG letters in your post.

Made me laugh.
post #42 of 1627
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

I don't know about the 9Gs, but I do not like the decrease in image brightness w/power mode(s) enabled on my PRO-150FD and to me it is unacceptable to have to trade picture quality to obtain less "buzz" for a $5000 TV.

that's odd, it seems you voted "yes, and that's the reason i returned the set" in this poll.

what gives?
post #43 of 1627
Wow again with the buzz! The funny thing here is I'm sitting around a bunch of florescent lights above my head that are all of a sudden buzzing for their life
I'm thinking of a G9 elite, and if it buzz the way my G7 buzz it wont bother me much


DJoel
post #44 of 1627
I think if people didn't talk about the buzz so much on AVS that a decent amount of people here wouldn't even think about the buzzing. The only time I really notice any buzzing is when my Kuro is on with the volume down while I browse AVS .
post #45 of 1627
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Originally Posted by G-star View Post

that's odd, it seems you voted "yes, and that's the reason i returned the set" in this poll.

what gives?

Yea Optivity,
Whats up with that??
Why the dishonesty?
Are you wanting the Poll to show negative results for the 9G???
post #46 of 1627
I did not want this poll started again but we will see what happens. I will do my own poll again
post #47 of 1627
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Sorry, I did not get past those super BIG letters in your post.

I don't know about the 9Gs, but I do not like the decrease in image brightness w/power mode(s) enabled on my PRO-150FD and to me it is unacceptable to have to trade picture quality to obtain less "buzz" for a $5000 TV.

If someone is having an issue with the 9G buzzing and does not know what to do about it, more than likely they will look at this thread/poll.
I made the letters big so that those in that situation would not miss that there is a way to decrease/eliminate the buzz.
Changing to powersave mode2 has proven to be a big help with the buzz.
And has kept some people from returning the set.

I have made the letters smaller as to not offend anyone.
post #48 of 1627
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

I did not want this poll started again but we will see what happens. I will do my own poll again

I am starting to agree with you Roman. Some of the votes are very suspicious.

I counted 5 members with a postcount of Zero, and 5 members with a postcount of "2" or less that voted "NO BUZZ".
Seems strange that they just appeared out of the blue and decided to vote.
Could someone be using multiple screen names??? lol
post #49 of 1627
Thread Starter 
Let's not see too much into it, it's not rare to see people just lurking for months and wanting to get involved if they feel concerned (like owning a G9 and wanting to tell their experience by a simple vote). For what it's worth, if the trend continues, it resembles the % seen in the 8G poll with a little less than 25% of people annoyed by the buzz with a small % of these to the point of returning the set.
post #50 of 1627
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

Whoever gets a Pioneer tech to come take a look at the set due to the buzz needs to make sure that the tech sits directly in front of the set at eye-level.

If a tech was to come take a look at mine, He would only consider the buzz normal while standing up anywhere in front of the TV.

The tech needs to sit directly "in the line of fire".

Chad - that is exactly how I hear my loud buzz. We are sitting at the same height of the television - hence, ears are centered in front of panel. My audio is from a center channel above and two speakers on each side. There is no way that can be classified as acceptable if you heard it on mine.
post #51 of 1627
I have the 5020. I voted only within 4 feet because I voted before trying without powersave.

With powersave2, I can only hear it from the back and within 1ft of the front.

With no powersave, I can hear the buzz from 13ft. Although its audible whenever the panel is displaying something (even switching every 5 seconds between menu and blank screen changes the buzz), its not bothersome - I can only really make it out when my speakers are muted. I leave it on powersave though and am satisfied with pq.

I have pretty sensitive hearing and am easily bothered by noise, but it's not really an issue for me.
post #52 of 1627
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Originally Posted by minerat View Post

I have the 5020. I voted only within 4 feet because I voted before trying without powersave.

With powersave2, I can only hear it from the back and within 1ft of the front.

With no powersave, I can hear the buzz from 13ft. Although its audible whenever the panel is displaying something (even switching every 5 seconds between menu and blank screen changes the buzz), its not bothersome - I can only really make it out when my speakers are muted. I leave it on powersave though and am satisfied with pq.

I have pretty sensitive hearing and am easily bothered by noise, but it's not really an issue for me.

With powersave2 on mine decreases dramatically and would also be within the 4 feet range. But I still voted "yes and its annoying".

When Avssa created the Poll I think he/she meant: How does your panel buzz "without the use of Powersave mode2".

I consider Powersavemode2 a good "band-aid" to help with the problem and by no means a permanent solution. We really shouldn't have to decrease our brightness to stop the buzz to be honest.
post #53 of 1627
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

I did not want this poll started again but we will see what happens. I will do my own poll again

Yep...here we go again.
post #54 of 1627
Just got my 151 and there is a slight, high pitched buzz from under 4'. It can only be heard when the sound is muted. Almost any volume makes it inaudible. I've been lurking on these 9G forums for some time and just wanted to contribute a little back. Thanks to all for the great information and discussion.
post #55 of 1627
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

I did not want this poll started again but we will see what happens. I will do my own poll again

Roman, What is your poll?
post #56 of 1627
Hey Optivity, did you have a 9G? I see you voted you returned your TV but
this is a 9G poll. If so, which one? By the way, Chadmak09 kinda suggested
the TV doesn't dim too much, and this thing is supposed to be noticeably brighter
than our 8G's. I'm thinking Energy Save mode2 is still brighter than our 8g's.

My 8G had a buzz... but I sold it anyhow. Still, I got used to it after a few
months. It really sucked at first... you know how much I bitched... probably
more than most here. Strange how things changed for me. Ahh I miss that
damned thing!
post #57 of 1627
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

Roman, What is your poll?

Last year I posted a msg stating that people with 8g's can email me so I can have my own poll and forward the concerns to Pioneer. I received about 5 emails. It was for everyone not just my people. So now you can understand where I get my opinion.
post #58 of 1627
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

Last year I posted a msg stating that people with 8g's can email me so I can have my own poll and forward the concerns to Pioneer. I received about 5 emails. It was for everyone not just my people. So now you can understand where I get my opinion.

So is your opinion that the buzz does not exist or that its a rare occurrance?
post #59 of 1627
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Originally Posted by chadmak09 View Post

So is your opinion that the buzz does not exist or that its a rare occurrance?

Oh the buzz exists its just most dont notice it or dont care.
post #60 of 1627
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

Oh the buzz exists its just most dont notice it or dont care.

I agree.
I did not notice or care abot the buzz that my 5080 had. I never gave the buzz issue a single thought. Most people probably have a buzz like my 5080 had.
Althogh some have extreme buzzers.
There is absolutly no way that someone would not notice the buzz I hear when turning powersave mode to off and surfing the internet on my 6020.
ITs so annoying that I have no choice but to go to powersave mode2. I didn't use powersave mode2 at first when surfing the net. And the buzz drove me so crazy I could still hear it in my head (like a song you hear on the radio that you can't get out of your head) after I left the living room and turned the TV off. lol. Its like it was stuck in my mind I had got so used to hearing it.
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