TX-SR806 is in Circuit City's computer. - Page 3

Originally Posted by Amel

I will be going with the denons this time

Originally Posted by AdamWL

I think the weight, on Amazon's description, is simply a typo or just incorrect information. Just like the "Package Width" is likely not 1 inch. And I'm sure the 806 is still an THX Ultra2 (Plus) certified AVR.

# Item Weight: 37.5 pounds
# Item Length: 16.94 inches
# Item Width: 17.13 inches
# Package Width: 1 inches

Maybe they're trying to save on shipping cost and they're folding it up to fit in a 1" package.

Originally Posted by dxm

You all need to see today press release on Onkyo's website. It will clear up your spec questions. They also have the spec's for both the TX-SR806 & TX-706.

Quote from press release "The Onkyo TX-SR806 and TX-SR706 home theater receivers have THX Ultra2 Plus and Select2 Plus certification respectively, and both include the new THX Loudness Plus technology."

Being a new user to this forum I can not post the URL. So you will have to find the press release on your own on Onkyo's website. Sorry

Originally Posted by swestbom


Dropped about 14 pounds, went from 9.5 to 7.8 amps in power consumption but is still ultra 2 (plus) certified. Not sure what the plus means for power output. This must have a more efficient amplifier section to keep the Ultra-2 certification, in other words it isn't a space heater any more! It lost over an inch of depth, probably the 14 pounds of heat sink and power supply that are no longer there. Distortion went up a bit 0.05% (Rated power) for the 805 versus 0.08% (Rated power) for the 806, this is probably directly related to the efficiency gains, but nothing major, not a bad trade off given the significantly smaller power supply, peak power dropped slightly as well, but again, nothing major:

145 W + 145 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%, 2 channels driven, FTC) for the 806

versus

150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%, 2 channels driven, FTC) for the 805

It seems like Onkyo made some good trade offs, efficiency and less heat for slightly less power and slightly more distortion, but nothing anyone will be able to hear. Given the new features, more inputs and hopefully better HDMI processing it seems like a step forward overall.

Originally Posted by RobertR1

Was hoping they'd be nice enough to add another HDMI input to the 806......guess not.

Originally Posted by smooth aviator

Are you sure the 806 carries the "Hudson II" like the 606 ??

check this thread which basically states that the 706X has faroudja Cinema. That's a 1080p 3D comb filter chip. Even if it is in the range of the FL2310, it is similar to the chip used by the higly acclaimed Oppo 981 DVD players. The chip is old, however it suggests that it is priced competitively at the end of its product cycle. I think some of these chips suffer from 8bit internal conversions/calculations. However, it should do wonders for standard definition cable broadcasts.

Originally Posted by swestbom

http://onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-S...s=Receiver&p=s

Dropped about 14 pounds, went from 9.5 to 7.8 amps in power consumption but is still ultra 2 (plus) certified. Not sure what the plus means for power output. This must have a more efficient amplifier section to keep the Ultra-2 certification, in other words it isn't a space heater any more! It lost over an inch of depth, probably the 14 pounds of heat sink and power supply that are no longer there. Distortion went up a bit 0.05% (Rated power) for the 805 versus 0.08% (Rated power) for the 806, this is probably directly related to the efficiency gains, but nothing major, not a bad trade off given the significantly smaller power supply, peak power dropped slightly as well, but again, nothing major:

145 W + 145 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%, 2 channels driven, FTC) for the 806

versus

150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%, 2 channels driven, FTC) for the 805

It seems like Onkyo made some good trade offs, efficiency and less heat for slightly less power and slightly more distortion, but nothing anyone will be able to hear. Given the new features, more inputs and hopefully better HDMI processing it seems like a step forward overall.

Originally Posted by Giskaard

The main heat problem was localized to the right back section of receiver, where the processors were located. It was away from amplification section. As a matter of fact, amplifier section was always running cool enough, I never for once experienced those side front fans kick in(875 owner here). A new PCB layout and PCB positioning could be a better solution for the right back section heat issue.

Elaborating from your post, I think trade offs are more profit oriented rather than solution oriented, at least from the first look of it. there were already rumours around that Onkyo was uncomfortable with the steeply declined price and low margin. Losing the wall of heat sink, putting in a smaller power supply enables you to make the unit smaller&lighter, cheaper unit with less logistics cost.

That huge wall of heat sink was also shielding the processor section from power supply, if that is gone that could be another potential setback.

On a final note, I hope those missing 2 amperes will not come back to haunt Onkyo in sound&vision mag lab tests. I would wait until real lab results to hail the success of Onkyo's efficiency improvement.

I guess we will all find out shortly.

Originally Posted by smooth aviator


told you so

The 706 looks like a real value proposition, i would love to discover the difference between the two faroudja chips used in this and the 806 since the 806 claims to offer 1080i upcoversion over component video.

Originally Posted by T2k

That thread is wrong IMO - it's Faroudja Edge, not Cinema, at least according to the Genesis website and press releases.

OTOH first H/K 354 unit we have pics of carries a Faroudja Edge logo but sports the most advanced Faroujda chip to date, the Torino - which is officially Cinema-line...

It's either the website is wrong and Edge is the more advanced line and Cinema is the entry-level or these logos/brandings get on units or into documents without proper QC.



You just said it: 1080p, 3D comb filter - it's already far better than Denon's old crap, the FLi2310.



It was highly acclaimed - they have better units now and others' ABT, Reon-based units are surpassed it as well.



Not the FLi2310, that's for sure, that's a crap today, period. Denon ****ed up their entire 2008-2009 line with this seriously outdated, inferior scaler and no dynamic volume adjustment can't help that.

Originally Posted by sterryo

isn't 5 enough

Originally Posted by RobertR1

My bad. I swear yesterday when I looked at the specs in the link above it stated 3in1 out. 5 is perfect though! 360/DVR/PS3/HD DVD player and maybe even PC or some new toy down the line

Originally Posted by swestbom

"top-quality Cirrus Logic 192kHz/24-bit DACs" uh oh, no more TI 1796 DACs either! I bet it is a cheaper, poorer quality set of DACs.

http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/txsr806.html