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post #31 of 513
Xylon, can you grab the infamous Bill The Butcher's forcefield ridden head against the sky in the first pre-fight scene...?

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/a...-r1-vs-r2.html
post #32 of 513
The scary thing is: I'll bet some here do like this hyper-sharp look....

post #33 of 513
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

The scary thing is: I'll bet some here do like this hyper-sharp look....


Ummm... I don't know what you're looking at, but those cannot be described as "sharp", they are just blurry, it's screwing with my eyes, like I'm drunk or something.
post #34 of 513
Since the focus is on comparing both and I understand why, I will focus on the DVD for my comment. The DVD looks virtually horrific, almost unwatcheable.
post #35 of 513
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Originally Posted by Grifter02 View Post

Ummm... I don't know what you're looking at, but those cannot be described as "sharp", they are just blurry, it's screwing with my eyes, like I'm drunk or something.

On a 42" set though, to many the EE gives off the illusion of sharpness, that's why they add it.

no need for the condescending "ummm..."
post #36 of 513
The crazy thing is that the intentions behind all of this manipulation are probably lost on their intended audience. Is someone with a 32" tv going to be upset if all this edge enhancement/DNR wasn't applied? Doubtful. I wonder where they got the idea that this is what the consumer wants...

I can't think of any other case where a company intentionally sabotages the quality of their product. It isn't plain laziness - they actually perform WORK to make it look bad.
post #37 of 513
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Originally Posted by movieman742 View Post

After looking at those pics they seem clear. I'm still sorta wondering why the video is bad without the grain. I mean I know there is grain in movies but isn't the point of BluRay to give us "Crystal Clear Video"?
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Originally Posted by hfritz View Post

here are some reviews:
DVD Beaver
AVS
Home Theater Forum
The Man Room
DVD Town




See, look at the DVDbeaver caps and some of the reaction.


Leonard Norwitz thought it looked good too.


" There are scenes exquisitely and naturally rendered. Others show a respectable and appropriate grain."

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...rk_blu-ray.htm
post #38 of 513
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

On a 42" set though, to many the EE gives off the illusion of sharpness, that's why they add it.

no need for the condescending "ummm..."

I'm looking at these caps on a 22" monitor and they don't look sharp, they look blurry.

The condescending "ummm..." was for your condescending remark about other people having different tastes in what looks good and what doesn't.

*EDIT*

I didn't see those reviews you put up. That is pretty sad. I can understand people's point-of-view who like discs like Scary Movie, but GONY is a mess. It's not that they're watching it on a small screen, it's that they have no idea what they're looking at!
post #39 of 513
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post



" There are scenes exquisitely and naturally rendered. Others show a respectable and appropriate grain."

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...rk_blu-ray.htm

WTF!
post #40 of 513
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WTF!

LMAO!
post #41 of 513
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Originally Posted by Grifter02 View Post

I'm looking at these caps on a 22" monitor and they don't look sharp, they look blurry.

The condescending "ummm..." was for your condescending remark about other people having different tastes in what looks good and what doesn't.

*EDIT*

I didn't see those reviews you put up. That is pretty sad. I can understand people's point-of-view who like discs like Scary Movie, but GONY is a mess. It's not that they're watching it on a small screen, it's that they have no idea what they're looking at!

no worries, grifter. I know many people who crank the sharpness on their sets all the way up and actually prefer that look with the almost flinstones animation black line/halos around everything! not being too judgy. i mix my music a certain way and to me it's correctly balanced but many friends I know CRANK the bass up because that's how they like it. I tell them, no, it's mixed a certain way on purpose but they don't care, they like alot of bass.

post #42 of 513
What an absolute disaster.
post #43 of 513
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

And gary from DVDbeaver with his 46" 768P plasma bought it too...

" There are scenes exquisitely and naturally rendered. Others show a respectable and appropriate grain."

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...rk_blu-ray.htm

And coincidentally I removed DVD Beaver from my bookmarks right after reading that a week or so ago. Oh, wait, it wasn't a coincidence at all.
post #44 of 513
What about the UK version?
post #45 of 513
UK version is suppossed to be just as bad. If the french company really did do a new master I can't wait to see the comps. Xylon...?

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post #47 of 513
^^ That almost looks like a painting.
post #48 of 513
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Originally Posted by Deviation View Post

I noticed that everyone at the battle is still wearing their force fields. Bleah. Disney should be ashamed.

Oh my gosh.. It was worse than I was expecting.. Heads should roll...
post #49 of 513
Guys, sorry to report that the german Blu-ray is exactly as bad as the US version... After 40 minutes of stunned disbelief I couldn't even watch the rest anymore.

So the french version is our last hope. I hope someone will soon report on that one.
post #50 of 513
Just an fyi (if it really matters), Leonard Norwitz wrote the Beaver review, not Gary as some in this thread have been attributing - it's noted at the bottom of the review.

I trust Xylon's screengrabs FAR more than photos taken off a screen, but I'm not gonna stop visiting DVDBeaver over this...

Awaiting opinions on the French disc...
post #51 of 513
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Originally Posted by Stealth87 View Post

Is this Disney's first bad BD? It seems like everyone has had a good transfer so far.

Some of their early discs like Dinosaur were pretty mediocre, but they've been doing much better for a while now. Until this, of course.
post #52 of 513
What a terrible transfer.
post #53 of 513
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Originally Posted by Ivy Mike View Post

Just an fyi (if it really matters), Leonard Norwitz wrote the Beaver review, not Gary as some in this thread have been attributing - it's noted at the bottom of the review.

I trust Xylon's screengrabs FAR more than photos taken off a screen, but I'm not gonna stop visiting DVDBeaver over this...

Awaiting opinions on the French disc...

Gotcha, Ivy! I had no idea Gary even had a staff! Will amend my previous posts.

Wow, Leonard Norwitz equipment...

BD: Sony PS3
Projector: JVC RS1 1080p DILA
Screen: 104 inch diagonal. Goo CRT White video paint on Syntra

1080P PJ and a 104" screen and he thought it looked natural...?!?!?
post #54 of 513
I bet this will not get redone unless Scorsese himself raises a stink. No studio wants to piss off an A-list director.
post #55 of 513
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

Gotcha, Ivy! I had no idea Gary even had a staff! Will amend my previous posts.

Wow, Leonard Norwitz equipment...

BD: Sony PS3
Projector: JVC RS1 1080p DILA
Screen: 104 inch diagonal. Goo CRT White video paint on Syntra

1080P PJ and a 104" screen and he thought it looked natural...?!?!?

Maybe his wallet thought it looked natural.
post #56 of 513
Thanks for the pics. Definitely an improvement over the DVD (and that is good enough for me) so I will definitely pick this one up. This is not as bad as the Fifth Element or House of Flying Daggers me thinks.
post #57 of 513
My baby daughter's poo in her diaper today was an improvement over the dvd too...


post #58 of 513
CBC HD played this in canada, the other week, I should have pvr'd it to see how it looks.

Sadly I want this movie in my collection because I love Daniel day lewis performance that much, it might be my favorite.
post #59 of 513
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Originally Posted by Eternal_Sunshine View Post

Guys, sorry to report that the german Blu-ray is exactly as bad as the US version... After 40 minutes of stunned disbelief I couldn't even watch the rest anymore.

So the french version is our last hope. I hope someone will soon report on that one.

Yeah. This was also reported by members in cinefacts.de forum.
post #60 of 513
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Originally Posted by Xylon View Post

My advice is do not touch it, don't look at it, don't buy it, don't rent it. Because if you do its ok for the studios to do this and they can get away with it. Still thinking I'm way too harsh? Imagine Lord of the Rings with the same amount of EE and DNR applied. Get my point?

Oh my god, yes. The studios are crack dealers and the people that blindly preorder and buy this crap are keeping them in business. What's even more agrivating is that the reviewers as a whole seem to be completely clueless. The guys at DVDTown, DVDBeaver, and DVDAuthority should be laughed off the internet. They are clearly not "HD Ready".

This transfer seems to have the 3 signs of the devil: severe EE, pasty DNR, and blown highlights as a result of obvious contrast boosting. Just look at the blown out snow and sky in the last shot. The actual film is nowhere near that bright. Just horrific. Scorsese should sue.

This transfer:
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