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post #241 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

See, my biggest thing HAS been motion blur (well, pixelation around people doing sports in the olympics/football). I played with settings for an hour last night and fixed it to some degree but it is still there. Saw a little while watching basketball this morning. I'll try the CNET settings this afternoon to see if I can tell anymore of a difference.

Please report back if you can/can't eliminate the motion blur after playing with the settings. This is the main reason I want this TV. TIA.
post #242 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

See, my biggest thing HAS been motion blur (well, pixelation around people doing sports in the olympics/football). I played with settings for an hour last night and fixed it to some degree but it is still there. Saw a little while watching basketball this morning. I'll try the CNET settings this afternoon to see if I can tell anymore of a difference.

Another thing that has bugged me is the delay when the TV turns on (first it has the clicking sound, which my VW37L didnt have so I find it annoying). Then, I have to turn on my surround sound seperate from the TV (just because of how it set up) and even if I turn the sound on second I am still able to hear what is going on on the TV before I see picture.


the pixelation you are seeing during the Olympics is not from the TV it's been NBC's feed. this has been reported by numerous people with all different makes and models. It's been a big complaint about NBC's HD. When it's not pixelizing it looks outstanding but yeah NBC has been having horrible feed problems this Olympics.
post #243 of 2822
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Originally Posted by ryanmw View Post

CNET just posted a review of the 47. All in all, not bad, especially considering CNET's anti-Vizio bias (which is probably worth another 1-1.5 points). One of CNET's biggest gripes: a "somewhat pedestrian design". Couldn't disagree more. This TV looks great! Definitely one of Vizio's best designs yet.

Am I the only one who hates CNET's new 5 star rating paradigm? How is that more useful than the 100 point system of old? CNET gave the SVT 3.5 out of 5.

So in the old score system, this TV would have received an 8.0-8.5 with bias factored in.

I think Vizio has a winner!


I noticed this new Vizio did make C-net's list of Overall Top HDTV's choices, and it has the top spot for the their list in the top budget HDTV's in this size range
and it's among the top overall LCD's. So overall despite Cnet's nick picking on a few issues, it liked the set.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-hdtvs-overall/

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-flat-panel-lcd-hdtvs/

http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6485_7-....html?tag=lnav
post #244 of 2822
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Originally Posted by inimacam View Post

Didn't get any reply...so shamelessly repost ..Has anybody done a comparison between SV420XVT and Toshiba Regza 42RV530? I'm really torn between the two right now. I was dead set on the Toshiba and was waiting for Costco to carry it...and they finally did last Thursday...which was also the date the XVT showed up...for $99 more i can get 120Hz....but i wasn't sure Toshiba will have better quality compared to Vizio...In general i don't buy new model and like to wait a little for them to work out the kinks...but i really want one this time....

I went down to Sears today and they had the 42InchXVT alongside the Toshiba 530 and a Sony. I was amazed at the quality of the picture on the Vizio. To me it was equal to both the Toshiba and the Sony although I didn't note the Sony model number.
I am also in the market for a new LCD TV and the Toshiba 46RV530 has been on the top of my list but now the Vizio goes to the top if the 47XVT looks as good as the 42.
Checked Costco and they had the 42, no power to it and didn't know when the 47 would come in. Gotta see it first and will probably buy from Costco for the extended warranty.
Hope my report here helps you decide.

I should add that I would really like a 52inch but I haven't heard whether Vizio would make one in this model line. The thin bezel Toshiba's 52incher would fit but so far that is the only one and too expensive to buy especially considering the wife factor.
post #245 of 2822
Alright, I applied to CNET settings but they were too dark for my applicaiton (not a well lit room, but there is a decent amount of light at times). Sooo, I tweaked them a bit. Here is what I am currently using (suggestions for improvements would be appreciated):

Picture: Vivid
Backlight: 80
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 55
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 4
Advanced Picture
Noise Reduction: Low
Color Enhancement: Off
Advanced Adaptive Luma: Extended
Enhanced Contrast Ratio: Off
Color Temperature: Normal
Red: 127
Green: 129
Blue: 128
Smooth Motion: Off
Real Cinema Mode: Precision (this can not be adjusted with these settings)

For the individual asking about Standard Definition, the shows I've seen so far in SD have been very watchable.
post #246 of 2822
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

the pixelation you are seeing during the Olympics is not from the TV it's been NBC's feed. this has been reported by numerous people with all different makes and models. It's been a big complaint about NBC's HD. When it's not pixelizing it looks outstanding but yeah NBC has been having horrible feed problems this Olympics.

lol, thank God it wasnt just me. At times, it was almost making me angry that I had just dropped $1300 on a TV and the picture was no better than the one I had before. Seems I got a majority of it taken care of with my new settings.
post #247 of 2822
Fantastic TV. I'm pretty impressed with the Smooth Motion, as it seems to compare with the 3D effect on the Samsungs and Mitsubishis I've drooling over at Circuit City. If you are in the West Los Angeles area, Marina Del Rey Costco has loads of them. And they have it hooked directly to a Blueray player so you can see it in all its glory!
post #248 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

lol, thank God it wasnt just me. At times, it was almost making me angry that I had just dropped $1300 on a TV and the picture was no better than the one I had before. Seems I got a majority of it taken care of with my new settings.


Yeah it was soo bad one night last week that my wife couldn't stand it and went and watched it in the bedroom on the 20inch crt. LOL I stayed and toughed it out. The freezing up was the one that drove me the most nuts.
post #249 of 2822
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Picture: Vivid
Backlight: 75
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 4
Advanced Picture
Noise Reduction: Low
Color Enhancement: Off
Advanced Adaptive Luma: Off
Enhanced Contrast Ratio: Off
Color Temperature: Normal
Red: 127
Green: 129
Blue: 128
Smooth Motion: Off
Real Cinema Mode: Precision (this can not be adjusted with these settings)

From memory -
Picture: Custom?
Backlight: 40-45
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 55-60
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 3
Advanced Picture
Noise Reduction: Off
Color Enhancement: On or Low (can't remember)
Advanced Adaptive Luma: Medium
Enhanced Contrast Ratio: Off
Color Temperature: Cool

Smooth Motion: Off
Real Cinema Mode: Off

Mine are basically the same, a little less on the backlight and then I kicked up contrast a little, left the luma in default, and color enhance default, drop sharpness 1 click, left temp at cool, turned off the motion features (for now, still playing with these). I don't think the Cinema mode has an affect if smooth motion is off that is why it can't be changed when smooth motion is off, but I'm not sure. My feed is DISH DVR, HDMI, all HD channels and PS3 (which I haven't tried yet).

Sometimes I do like the backlight a little higher, like you have it. I think the default 90 is a little high most of the time. I also tried the default modes, football, and one other and although higher backlight they did look good on the football game last night. I think this set has some flexibility in settings and still get good looking picture and what is best for you depends on a lot of other factors (ambient light, feed, personal preference).
post #250 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Grandude View Post

I went down to Sears today and they had the 42InchXVT alongside the Toshiba 530 and a Sony. I was amazed at the quality of the picture on the Vizio. To me it was equal to both the Toshiba and the Sony although I didn't note the Sony model number.
I am also in the market for a new LCD TV and the Toshiba 46RV530 has been on the top of my list but now the Vizio goes to the top if the 47XVT looks as good as the 42.
Checked Costco and they had the 42, no power to it and didn't know when the 47 would come in. Gotta see it first and will probably buy from Costco for the extended warranty.
Hope my report here helps you decide.

I should add that I would really like a 52inch but I haven't heard whether Vizio would make one in this model line. The thin bezel Toshiba's 52incher would fit but so far that is the only one and too expensive to buy especially considering the wife factor.

Thanks for the info Grandude. I was hoping sv42xvt will be better than Toshiba 42RV530 since it's 120Hz, anti-motion blur, 10-bit panel etc. At Costco here Toshiba is $999 and sv42xvt is $1099...so if they are equal, i rather spend $100 less.....on "well-known" brand...not sure how much better quality Tosh is...if any....i think i'll go Costco today and pick up sv42xvt...and try it out. thanks
post #251 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

alright, i applied to cnet settings but they were too dark for my applicaiton (not a well lit room, but there is a decent amount of light at times). Sooo, i tweaked them a bit. Here is what i am currently using (suggestions for improvements would be appreciated):

picture: Vivid
backlight: 75
brightness: 50
contrast: 50
color: 50
tint: 0
sharpness: 4
advanced picture
noise reduction: Low
color enhancement: Off
advanced adaptive luma: Off
enhanced contrast ratio: Off
color temperature: Normal
red: 127
green: 129
blue: 128
smooth motion: Off
real cinema mode: Precision (this can not be adjusted with these settings)

for the individual asking about standard definition, the shows i've seen so far in sd have been very watchable.

try advanced adaptive luma on extend... It helps alot atleast
on my 47xvt,, maybe up your backlight..:d
post #252 of 2822
Hello All,

I am trying to decide between Vizio SV470XVT and Samsung LN46A550.
Would like hear opinion of others on this two before I make a decision.
Thanks.
post #253 of 2822
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Originally Posted by jpconard View Post

From memory -
Picture: Custom?
Backlight: 40-45
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 55-60
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 3
Advanced Picture
Noise Reduction: Off
Color Enhancement: On or Low (can't remember)
Advanced Adaptive Luma: Medium
Enhanced Contrast Ratio: Off
Color Temperature: Cool

Smooth Motion: Off
Real Cinema Mode: Off

Mine are basically the same, a little less on the backlight and then I kicked up contrast a little, left the luma in default, and color enhance default, drop sharpness 1 click, left temp at cool, turned off the motion features (for now, still playing with these). I don't think the Cinema mode has an affect if smooth motion is off that is why it can't be changed when smooth motion is off, but I'm not sure. My feed is DISH DVR, HDMI, all HD channels and PS3 (which I haven't tried yet).

Sometimes I do like the backlight a little higher, like you have it. I think the default 90 is a little high most of the time. I also tried the default modes, football, and one other and although higher backlight they did look good on the football game last night. I think this set has some flexibility in settings and still get good looking picture and what is best for you depends on a lot of other factors (ambient light, feed, personal preference).

Haha, yea. Default on 'vivid' was 100; way too high for me. I'll play with luma here in a sec. Overall, I have been happy with my settings this evening after watching some NASCAR, Olympics, a TV show and Football.

edit: updated the settings in my original settings post. Upped the brightness to 80, contrast to 55 and turned luma to extended. These new settings look really good too on true HD content. 8)
post #254 of 2822
Is anyone else having trouble with the remote for the 42 xvt? The one I have is nearly nonresponsive. Most of the time it will not respond at all.
post #255 of 2822
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Originally Posted by acad21 View Post

Is anyone else having trouble with the remote for the 42 xvt? The one I have is nearly nonresponsive. Most of the time it will not respond at all.

Have you tried different batteries? Could be you just got bad batteries.
post #256 of 2822
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Originally Posted by acad21 View Post

Is anyone else having trouble with the remote for the 42 xvt? The one I have is nearly nonresponsive. Most of the time it will not respond at all.



The sensor is normally in the lower right hand corner. Do you have anythng blocking that area or try pointing it towards that spot.

Also sometimes the best solution may be the simpliest. Swap out the batteries.
post #257 of 2822
Funny you should say that,

"I am trying to decide between Vizio SV470XVT and Samsung LN46A550.
Would like hear opinion of others on this two before I make a decision.
Thanks."

I am currently making the same decision. I just picked up the Samsung 550 thinking it would easily defeat the vizio...but then I saw the Vizio in Sears.

I've spent a few days with my Samy, and some time with the Vizio in Sears.

My views, the Samy seams to have better blacks(slightly), and higher contrast overall. However, the Samsung has pretty rough motion blur, and judder problems. Especially in gaming.

The vizio is very close to being just as nice as the samsung. I imagine once you got the Vizio home under normal lighting, you wouldn't see a difference. As you would probably turn down the contrast and brightness of both sets.

That and the vizio has the 120hz, and motion tech. Although on the higher settings their are some artifacts.

I'm taking the ol xbox 360 into sears to hook it up(the manager says it kosher), and see how much of a difference the 120hz is having. If it's good enough, I may swap out for the Vizio.

It's a little bit of a toss up.
post #258 of 2822
would love to hear how it went with the xbox 360 since i am looking at picking up the SV470XVT vizio and will be using my 360 on it.
post #259 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

First off, let me apologize about the crappy nature of the pictures (1st pic is the worst). I'm relegated to using my cell phone currently for pictures.

Heh, don't mean to come down on you, I really appreciate the pics (specially the NBC one, with the white lines; now I know what to look for), but really, you just spent almost $1.5k on a TV and yet don't have a digital camera?

Still, thanks for the pics. Think of it this way, I may have a digital camera, but you HAVE the TV.

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Originally Posted by jpconard View Post

Normally TVs overscan, I'm not sure this one is. Less overscan is better for picture quality but shows these issues.

I could get rid of it by shifting hor. pos. to 26 (from 32 default), but then some stations showed lines on the right, so it may require increasing Hor. size. I didn't try that yet.

I remember when the GV47 came out and some of the first buyers reported a bit of overscan, hopefully this new gen Vizio's got has better panels.

I haven't looked at the manual, but does the TV allow for horizontal setting?

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Originally Posted by tvset View Post

something about AOC

You can't compare AOC.
Really.
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Originally Posted by Bumpermankc View Post

The HDMI adapters were $19.99 & the component adapters were $3.00 ea. You might find them cheaper somewhere else. I wish the HDMI adapters were a little cheaper but they are very good quality & they are adjustable 0 to 90 deg.

Did you try monoprice for the 90 deg adapters? But since yours are adjustable, maybe they are more expensive then regular ones.
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I would post some pictures, but I'm not really sure how to add the pics to a post

As for posting images, I don't think you can with few posts. I really would like to see some pics, specially of the set's image with and w/o flash (I can't believe I'm still bugging for this, three posts already! ). If anything, just a nice front, sides and rear shots.

If you want, I'd be happy to post them for you here, just email at cariocafl AT gmail DOT com
post #260 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

Another thing that has bugged me is the delay when the TV turns on (first it has the clicking sound, which my VW37L didnt have so I find it annoying).

I remember reading here that some of the earlier models of the GV47LF (if I had bought a TV last year, it was going to be it) had the same clicking sound when turned on. Can you (or are you willing to) exchange it?
I've already prepared the wife that we may go through one or two at first; she shakes her head in disbelief...


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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

I noticed this new Vizio did make C-net's list of Overall Top HDTV's choices, and it has the top spot for the their list in the top budget HDTV's in this size range
and it's among the top overall LCD's. So overall despite Cnet's nick picking on a few issues, it liked the set.

Awesome, specially how Cnet is usually harsh on Vizio, like someone else mentioned.

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Originally Posted by piwo4me View Post

would love to hear how it went with the xbox 360 since i am looking at picking up the SV470XVT vizio and will be using my 360 on it.

Add me to that list!

A while back I once asked a blue shirt at a local BB if I could bring my 360 to check out a Samsung DLP set (in hindsight, I can't believe I even considered DLPs, what with their horrible vertical viewing angle, lack of brightness and even lag on some inputs).

He looked at me like I had three tits (for the record, I have none). I really hope the Sears salespeople are a little more flexible.

Though I'll feel kinda guilty, knowing I'm buying it at Costco anyways.
post #261 of 2822
I just picked up the 42" model a couple days ago and all I can say is wow. This is replacing a GV42LF which I was very happy with. The black levels, colors, and in general high definition content are a step up from my old Vizio.

For those wondering about the overscan, it still has the lines on nbc, but if you go into setup you can adjust the horizontal and vertical size and position to fix this. This adjustment is found under setup when you first pull up the menu NOT under video.
post #262 of 2822
How's the off-angle (horizontal/vertical) viewing performance?

One of the things the CNet review mentions is some washing out of colors. If you read other Vizio reviews of CNet, this one was actually pretty good -they keep on comparing much more expensive sets, which is not a true comparison.
post #263 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Carioca_FL View Post

Heh, don't mean to come down on you, I really appreciate the pics (specially the NBC one, with the white lines; now I know what to look for), but really, you just spent almost $1.5k on a TV and yet don't have a digital camera?

Still, thanks for the pics. Think of it this way, I may have a digital camera, but you HAVE the TV.

Eye No, Wright?

As far as the clicking goes, I'll go into Sears tomorrow to see if their display does it too. Shoot, does anyone else that has the 47" experience the clicking and long (~10 seconds) delay when turning on?
post #264 of 2822
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Originally Posted by kuwxman View Post

Eye No, Wright?

As far as the clicking goes, I'll go into Sears tomorrow to see if their display does it too. Shoot, does anyone else that has the 47" experience the clicking and long (~10 seconds) delay when turning on?


Are you using a set top cable box? My Sci Atlant 8300 clicks and takes abotu 5 seconds to display everything. It did it on my old crt so I know it's the box not tv.
post #265 of 2822
I have the 42, the colors are great, the blacks are good, I had the 37 vizio on my desk and yes this one is much better for the computer as well. I love sports on this panel. The only thing I picked up on was the off angle viewing. Although not horrible it is noticable. The angles wash the colors out some. I did only really notice during a movie and the black bars at the bottom changed. It was really the only way I noticed.

For me who uses this as a tv during football and a computer monitor most of the time it is wonderful and I am very happy with the purchase. For people intrested in the motion controls it really is noticable during sports as compared to the 37 inch vizio I have. I hooked my sons x-box 360 and I noticed no ghosting. My setting are close to c-net and I used the hdnet test patterns and added a little blue. If you are on the fence with any doubts I would endorse it. The price point and the quality of the picture made it easy. Does Sony have better blacks? I think so but not noticable once in the home. I also use the split screen function a lot during football season and this is one thing Vizio does better than most. The rgb on half of the screen is not really usable because the text gets very fuzzy but for two television feeds it is great.

One last note. The remote feels like it came from a happy meal. Vizio this is your best tv please I understand we are cutting costs but geez. I would suggest a universal is mandatory.
post #266 of 2822
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As far as the clicking goes, I'll go into Sears tomorrow to see if their display does it too. Shoot, does anyone else that has the 47" experience the clicking and long (~10 seconds) delay when turning on?

The 42" clicks when turning on, I think it is just a relay or something. This is probably normal, and doesn't bother me. I normally turn it on only 1 time a day then it stays on.
post #267 of 2822
The problem I am having is that the only functions on the remote that work are the Volume (up and down) and the mute button. Very strange. The sensor does not work well on the tv, but none of the other functions on the remote are working, including power. So strange, just wondering if anyone else is having trouble.
post #268 of 2822
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Originally Posted by acad21 View Post

The problem I am having is that the only functions on the remote that work are the Volume (up and down) and the mute button. Very strange. The sensor does not work well on the tv, but none of the other functions on the remote are working, including power. So strange, just wondering if anyone else is having trouble.


Is your tv hooked up to a cable or sat box? Sometimes this will override some of the functions of the regular remote, though not the power.. If not then I would just call Vizio and have them send you a new remote. Shouldn't be any problems with them doing that.
post #269 of 2822
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Originally Posted by chopperjc View Post

For me who uses this as a tv during football and a computer monitor most of the time it is wonderful and I am very happy with the purchase.

That's good to hear.

Does the panel go into standby when your computer tells it (DPMS)? What does it take to get pixel-perfect output via DVI->HDMI?
post #270 of 2822
When will costco in austin tx get the 42 inch in. I'm going to take back a samsung 650 and get this
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