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post #151 of 712
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Originally Posted by luigionlsd View Post

Enchanted, The Simpsons Movie come to mind...

They have a very different approach to the aspect ratio shifting, as it used in a creative way for the story. Just like Galaxy quest.

In TDK its more like, we wanted to shoot the entire movie in IMAX, but it wasnt practical.

Shifting apsect ratio in a hometheater is as fun as warm beer.
post #152 of 712
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

Shifting apsect ratio in a hometheater is as fun as warm beer.

I am truly beginning to hope we get a shifting aspect ratio only just to irritate the folks with masking.

The rest of us will enjoy the movie as intended by the filmmaker, while a FEW will complain about how they spent their money.
post #153 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

I am truly beginning to hope we get a shifting aspect ration only just to irritate the folks with masking.

The rest of us will enjoy the movie as intended by the filmmaker, while a FEW will complain about how they spent their money.

Not that I have scope but why would you like to irritate the folks with masking?
post #154 of 712
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Originally Posted by tauheel05 View Post

It's rumored to be released on Nov. 18 or Dec. 9.

It's Official: Tuesday December 9th
post #155 of 712
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Not that I have scope but why would you like to irritate the folks with masking?

The complaining about a shifting aspect ratio is a bit much. I prefer to see any film as intended by the filmmaker. The filmmaker has already indicated his wish for a shifting aspect ratio. End of story in my opinion.

Changing the intent of the filmmaker due to the pet projects of a very, very few is just not acceptable.
post #156 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

The complaining about a shifting aspect ratio is a bit much. I prefer to see any film as intended by the filmmaker. The filmmaker has already indicated his wish for a shifting aspect ratio. End of story in my opinion.

Changing the intent of the filmmaker due to the pet projects of a very, very few is just not acceptable.


The filmmakers were perfect fine with constant aspect ratio for the majority of the theatrical visitors.

But if thats the way the movie is intended to be watch, they should release the DVD that way also.

I just dont see the point of using shifting aspect ratio on a non-IMAX screen.

I just draws attention from the story.
post #157 of 712
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

The filmmakers were perfect fine with constant aspect ratio for the majority of the theatrical visitors.

But if thats the way the movie is intended to be watch, they should release the DVD that way also.

I just dont see the point of using shifting aspect ratio on a non-IMAX screen.

I just draws attention from the story.

The filmmaker has indicated that he prefers the shifting aspect ratio. That is the filmmakers intent. That is the end of the argument in my opinion.

Did it draw attention away from the story in the IMAX theaters? No.
post #158 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

Did it draw attention away from the story in the IMAX theaters? No.

Do you have an IMAX screen at home?
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'The Dark Knight' on Blu-ray, Dec. 9.

Credit: www.dvdtown.com
post #160 of 712
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

Do you have an IMAX screen at home?

No, but prefer to watch the film as intended by the filmmaker. Whatever aspect ratio(s) decided upon by the filmmaker are fine with me.

This whole debate reminds be of the black bar crowd upset with letter-boxing and wishing they could have cropped fullscreen 4:3 content.

It is just really unfortunate that a very few among us would rather push for their vision for the film rather than that of the director. The directors intent should be protected and preserved above the wants of a very few with masking...
post #161 of 712
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Originally Posted by tauheel05 View Post



'The Dark Knight' on Blu-ray, Dec. 9.

Credit: www.dvdtown.com

They both look good.
post #162 of 712
I don't think we are going to get "the Imax" clips. Only a two disc set? I suspect Double Dip in 2011.
post #163 of 712
I got a feeling that the Batman cover art will be on the sleeve and the Joker will be the art for the blu-ray case.
post #164 of 712
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Originally Posted by tauheel05 View Post

I got a feeling that the Batman cover art will be on the sleeve and the Joker will be the art for the blu-ray case.

You are correct.
post #165 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

No, but prefer to watch the film as intended by the filmmaker. Whatever aspect ratio(s) decided upon by the filmmaker are fine with me.

So you think its OK that Han Solo shoot second?

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This whole debate reminds be of the black bar crowd upset with letter-boxing and wishing they could have cropped fullscreen 4:3 content.

The difference is that Pan$Scan didnt give me the theatrical experience, were constant aspect ratio does. If the entire movie was shoot on 4:3 I would be perfectly fine with 4:3. I just think changing aspect ratio hurts the movie since it will just atract my attention on the black bars. And frankly its so pointless. Its not like it does anything for the story. Like Enchanted, Simpson or Galaxy quest.


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It is just really unfortunate that a very few among us would rather push for their vision for the film rather than that of the director. The directors intent should be protected and preserved above the wants of a very few with masking...

I dont have masking (yet), But I still dont like it, I can see the point for the IMAX experience that they did the way they did. But in hometheater enviroment, it will just look silly.
post #166 of 712
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So you think its OK that Han Solo shoot second?

He didn't say George Lucas, he said filmmaker
post #167 of 712
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

I dont have masking (yet), But I still dont like it, I can see the point for the IMAX experience that they did the way they did. But in hometheater enviroment, it will just look silly.

That may be your opinion, but it does not make it fact.

The most important thing...in my opinion...is that we preserve the intent of the filmmaker above all else.
post #168 of 712
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

So you think its OK that Han Solo shoot second?

Well, technically, Solo did not shoot first in the unmolested version.... Greedo never got off a shot....
post #169 of 712
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

He didn't say George Lucas, he said filmmaker

If I were drinking something, I would have just spit it out all over my keyboard.
post #170 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

It is just really unfortunate that a very few among us would rather push for their vision for the film rather than that of the director. The directors intent should be protected and preserved above the wants of a very few with masking...

His intention was to shoot and include IMAX footage in his film. I'm not sure if switching ARs was part of his intention though... Although it's a compromise he had to do. Those who missed the IMAX version still saw the film as intented imo...
post #171 of 712
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

His intention was to shoot and include IMAX footage in his film. I'm not sure if switching ARs was part of his intention though... Although it's a compromise he had to do. Those who missed the IMAX version still saw the film as intented imo...

The director's intent....

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The Dark Knight Blu-ray to Feature IMAX Shifted Aspect Ratio
Posted July 7, 2008 06:34 PM by Josh Dreuth

While speaking with iF Magazine, 'The Dark Knight' director Christopher Nolan mentioned that the inevitable of Blu-ray will feature the IMAX shifted aspect ratio. He commented, "The Blu-ray, in particular, will be able to actually use the shifted aspect ratios as it appears on the IMAX screen because the 16:9 aspect ratio is sufficiently different from the 2:4 that you'll actually see a shift on the Blu-ray."

He continued, "The resolution on the Blu-ray is clear enough that you can actually see difference in grain structure and sharpness. So I think it will be quite spectacular."

The film has still not hit theaters, so the Blu-ray is far off, but its interesting to learn that the high definition format is exciting directors.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1488
post #172 of 712
He can do whatever he wants with his film, but I will not buy the BD if its only shifting aspect ratio.

Wonder what happens with new BD customers who buy the player with the movie? Wonder how many complaints Warner gonna get if they dont include the constant aspect ratio of the film aswell.

Hopefully they do as they did with "How the west was won".

Or else Im gonna use this movie as an example why we shouldnt care for the directors intent...
post #173 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

The director's intent....

take it with a grain of salt, IMAX feature will not be there. This is wishful thinkng. Yes you can come back to me if I end up being wrong.
post #174 of 712
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

He didn't say George Lucas, he said filmmaker

Good one.
post #175 of 712
I suppose we should have asked Picasso, Van Gogh, or any other artist to change the presentation of their work as well. Preservation of the director/filmmakers intent should be the first priority. Appeasing those among us who lack respect for that should not be an option.
post #176 of 712
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

Or else Im gonna use this movie as an example why we shouldnt care for the directors intent...

How is this not the exact same thing as people not wanting them pesky black bars 'wasting their screen' ? You are putting your own personal preferences over the intents of the creator.
post #177 of 712
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Originally Posted by neo_reloaded View Post

how is this not the exact same thing as people not wanting them pesky black bars 'wasting their screen' ? You are putting your own personal preferences over the intents of the creator.

Exactly!
post #178 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

The director's intent....

okay from now on, I'll stop arguing this because you always end up with something I agree with.
post #179 of 712
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Originally Posted by morpheo View Post

okay from now on, i'll stop arguing this because you always end up with something i agree with. :d

post #180 of 712
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

I suppose we should have asked Picasso, Van Gogh, or any other artist to change the presentation of their work as well. Preservation of the director/filmmakers intent should be the first priority. Appeasing those among us who lack respect for that should not be an option.

Apperently the director seem fine that the DVD and the theatrical version is constant aspect ratio.

The problem is filmmakers (and artist) sometimes fall to much in love with their work, that they dont do the right thing all the time.

If you ever tried and edited someting, you maybe watch the same content over and over, so suddenly whats seems OK for the one that edit, will seem stupid for someone that sees the same material for the first time. Because you go blind in the editing stage.

So the art sometimes gets better if you get perspective from a fresh viewpoint. Nolan is one of the most talented directors in hollywood, but I wonder what they served at the studio party, when they decided this.

To me this IMAX thing, seems more like a showoff then an artistic descision.
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