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Originally Posted by jgdrag View Post

Just watched Journey to the Center of the Earth in 3D. Very disappointed. Played around with the settings but couldn't get the quality of a bluray disc no matter what I messed with. Personally, the more I use this player the more I wish I waited for the 550. Any suggestions on upgrading the picture quality?

Ralph Potts has a review section that shows his reviews of blu-ray movies. I always try to look at what Ralph has to say before going and buying a blu-ray. Ralph was not happy about the blu-ray version of this movie so I just bought the SD version. Pic is not to bad on my 350. I wanted to see the movie but was not going to buy it on blu-ray because of Ralph's review. Now I am glad i didn't. Better to throw away a little than a lot. Thanks Ralph.
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Originally Posted by thilt View Post

I am currently unable to enjoy the upconvert feature on my 350 as I am connected by component cable to a 1080i TV. Are there products available that can directly disable copy protection on a commercial DVD, or do they all work in the background only allowing you to make a copy of the DVD? I assume the DVD copy can then be upconverted, right?

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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Do you mean 'composite' connection rather 'component. A component cable connection between the S350 and a 1080i HDTV allows for upscaling a standard DVD (480i) to 480p/720p/1080i.

thilt is correct about component. Page 61 of the manual states that "protected content" DVD's are capped at 480p via component. All the players I know of upconvert only via HDMI. thilt, check out the DVD player forum on this site for other options.
post #3003 of 6719
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

According the owner's manual your 247 is not capable of decoding either TrueHD or DTS Master Audio - so you won't see this displayed on the receiver display.

Ahh thanks for this!

It is my fathers setup so I'm not 100% educated on it.

Should a setting be changed on the BDP-S350 to output all the new sound formats to 7.1 PCM then?

for TrueHD it says Multi-channel PCM but not for DTS HD Master Audio.

Thank you very much for the reply!
post #3004 of 6719
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Originally Posted by Vaggeto View Post

Ahh thanks for this!

It is my fathers setup so I'm not 100% educated on it.

Should a setting be changed on the BDP-S350 to output all the new sound formats to 7.1 PCM then?

for TrueHD it says Multi-channel PCM but not for DTS HD Master Audio.

Thank you very much for the reply!

The S350 can decode TrueHD and send it to your receiver as PCM but is not able to do the decoding for DTS-MA.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post14323698
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Originally Posted by Oz Man View Post

Ralph Potts has a review section that shows his reviews of blu-ray movies. I always try to look at what Ralph has to say before going and buying a blu-ray. Ralph was not happy about the blu-ray version of this movie so I just bought the SD version. Pic is not to bad on my 350. I wanted to see the movie but was not going to buy it on blu-ray because of Ralph's review. Now I am glad i didn't. Better to throw away a little than a lot. Thanks Ralph.

Luckily I was able to return it today. I took it in and told them this is a horrible picture and not worthy of my money.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

thilt is correct about component. Page 61 of the manual states that "protected content" DVD's are capped at 480p via component. All the players I know of upconvert only via HDMI. thilt, check out the DVD player forum on this site for other options.

Yep, you are correct. Sorry to confuse this player with the Helios H4000 upconverting DVD player.

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/reviews/...s_h4000_up.php
post #3007 of 6719
So I ordered the firmware update disc from sony last night. Does this update do anything beside the BD-live thing? I have no use for BD-Live. Just wanted to know if something else was fixed.
post #3008 of 6719
I asked earlier in the thread and will try the question once more.

I have a HDMI 1.1 equipped reciever rotel 1069 and am trying out several blu ray players and have them set to output pcm to the reciever as I understand this causes the player to decode the HD audio and pass it onto the reciever for playback.


My question for anyone has that has this setup, if dts master is selected in the disc menu is it output at a different frequency than regular dts 48.1?

I have read the white paper in the DTS site and they claim master audio can be output at up to 96khz for 7.1 and 192khz for two channel material. They key word there is "can". This is not to say it actually is as of now.

I have tried a few titles but none so far have shown anything other than the standard 48.1khz.

Is it only the bit rate that is increased for these HD audio tracks or the output frequency also? If anyone has gotten a different number than the standard I wou ldbe interested in knowing.

the players I have tried are the Pansonic 35 and 55 and the SONY 350.
post #3009 of 6719
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Originally Posted by kiwi2000 View Post

I asked earlier in the thread and will try the question once more.

I have a HDMI 1.1 equipped reciever rotel 1069 and am trying out several blu ray players and have them set to output pcm to the reciever as I understand this causes the player to decode the HD audio and pass it onto the reciever for playback.


My question for anyone has that has this setup, if dts master is selected in the disc menu is it output at a different frequency than regular dts 48.1?

I have read the white paper in the DTS site and they claim master audio can be output at up to 96khz for 7.1 and 192khz for two channel material. They key word there is "can". This is not to say it actually is as of now.

I have tried a few titles but none so far have shown anything other than the standard 48.1khz.

Is it only the bit rate that is increased for these HD audio tracks or the output frequency also? If anyone has gotten a different number than the standard I wou ldbe interested in knowing.

the players I have tried are the Pansonic 35 and 55 and the SONY 350.

Well first, the S350 doesn't decode DTS HD, only the CORE if you use MIX option. The Core is 16/48 or 24/48.

Second there's about 1-2 DTS HD MA 96khz track that exist on the market. One of them is Bakara... but there's no movies in the US. I think theirs Perhaps Love that is DTS HD MA 96khz too, witch is a Chinese movie released by Tai Tseng (it's a musical)
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

thilt is correct about component. Page 61 of the manual states that "protected content" DVD's are capped at 480p via component. All the players I know of upconvert only via HDMI. thilt, check out the DVD player forum on this site for other options.

Thanks mdavej. I actually remembered that I had an unused HDMI to DVI cable in storage which I'm now running from the 350 to my TV. All is well.
post #3011 of 6719
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Originally Posted by Rhoq View Post

Only on non-copy protected DVDs, otherwise an HDMI/DVI connection is required for upscaling due to HDCP.

This may answer the main question I have. If my TV (Sony GWIII RPCLD) only has DVI and Component video inputs, can I use an HDMI->DVI adapter and cable to connect the BDP-S350 to the GWIII and still get full 720p (max resolution of the TV)?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Vaggeto View Post

Ahh thanks for this!

It is my fathers setup so I'm not 100% educated on it.

Should a setting be changed on the BDP-S350 to output all the new sound formats to 7.1 PCM then?

for TrueHD it says Multi-channel PCM but not for DTS HD Master Audio.

Thank you very much for the reply!

Ouch... looks like this player may not be the best match for the Harmon Kardon AVR 247. You're left without any high res DTS.

Any other recommendations for a player at a similar price point that will internally decode all the newer codecs?

Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by Vaggeto View Post

Any other recommendations for a player at a similar price point that will internally decode all the newer codecs?

I believe the Panasonic DMP-BD35 does.
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Forgive me if this post doesn't belong here, but I thought that it was worth a shot.

I just got my BDP-S350 last night (found a great deal online) and hooked it up to my Denon AVR-987 via HDMI. I seem to get intermittent drops of signal between the BDP and the AVR. I did un-plug and re-seat the HDMI cable. I watched most of Ocean's Thirteen without any problem, but the problem reappeared towards the end. I can swap out the cable for a new one, but my only other choice is to move to component video / optical audio.

Any suggestions for a relative novice?

Thanks in advance
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Sorry if this has been answered before, but my search results didn't specifically address my query below in AVS & more specifically in this forum. I have a Reon processor in my receiver & I'm not concerned too much by the Sony's poor upscaling. However, I want to be able to pass anything under 1080p to the receiver for upscaling and I need a player where I can easily pick the resolution. A button on the remote control would be handy, such as my Oppo 980 and the BDP-S300 have. I would prefer the BDP-S350 (actually the Costco version - BDP-BX1) over the Panasonic DMP-BD35 because it comes with an HDMI cable, thereby making it closer $100 cheaper than the Pannie when one considers the cost of buying an HDMI cable.

In the past I've used AV equipment that seems crippled with respect to certain features because the menu system didn't offer the option and its remote didn't offer the option. However, using a different remote from the same manufacturer for a similar product may allow the use of certain features that were previously unavailable. Many consumer products have features that are "crippled" on the lower end models. The only difference is that the higher end models don't have them crippled.

Has anyone tried using the remote control that came with the BDP-S300 to see if the "Video Format" button worked in allowing source direct input in the BDP-S350, as the S350's remote doesn't have this button? Is the lack of source direct simply a function that has been crippled in the player or is it completely unavailable?
post #3016 of 6719
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Originally Posted by moeronn View Post

This may answer the main question I have. If my TV (Sony GWIII RPCLD) only has DVI and Component video inputs, can I use an HDMI->DVI adapter and cable to connect the BDP-S350 to the GWIII and still get full 720p (max resolution of the TV)?

Thanks.

Yep. DVI will be identical to HDMI except that it won't pass audio. The HDMI/DVI adapters/cables from monoprice work fine.
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Originally Posted by mcmlxviii View Post

Sorry if this has been answered before, but my search results didn't specifically address my query below in AVS & more specifically in this forum. I have a Reon processor in my receiver & I'm not concerned too much by the Sony's poor upscaling. However, I want to be able to pass anything under 1080p to the receiver for upscaling and I need a player where I can easily pick the resolution. A button on the remote control would be handy, such as my Oppo 980 and the BDP-S300 have. I would prefer the BDP-S350 (actually the Costco version - BDP-BX1) over the Panasonic DMP-BD35 because it comes with an HDMI cable, thereby making it closer $100 cheaper than the Pannie when one considers the cost of buying an HDMI cable.

In the past I've used AV equipment that seems crippled with respect to certain features because the menu system didn't offer the option and its remote didn't offer the option. However, using a different remote from the same manufacturer for a similar product may allow the use of certain features that were previously unavailable. Many consumer products have features that are "crippled" on the lower end models. The only difference is that the higher end models don't have them crippled.

Has anyone tried using the remote control that came with the BDP-S300 to see if the "Video Format" button worked in allowing source direct input in the BDP-S350, as the S350's remote doesn't have this button? Is the lack of source direct simply a function that has been crippled in the player or is it completely unavailable?

You can get a HDMI cable from monoprice at about 6$ with shipping... in the color you want
post #3018 of 6719
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Yep. DVI will be identical to HDMI except that it won't pass audio. The HDMI/DVI adapters/cables from monoprice work fine.

Thanks for the quick response and confirmation. I was searching from adapters and cables and saw monoprice. Looks like they are the way to go. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

You can get a HDMI cable from monoprice at about 6$ with shipping... in the color you want

Thanks for the advice.
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Originally Posted by EWRIAH View Post

Forgive me if this post doesn't belong here, but I thought that it was worth a shot.

I just got my BDP-S350 last night (found a great deal online) and hooked it up to my Denon AVR-987 via HDMI. I seem to get intermittent drops of signal between the BDP and the AVR. I did un-plug and re-seat the HDMI cable. I watched most of Ocean's Thirteen without any problem, but the problem reappeared towards the end. I can swap out the cable for a new one, but my only other choice is to move to component video / optical audio.

Any suggestions for a relative novice?

Thanks in advance

A few people have had problems playing the Ocean's 13 BD but not necessarily with the S350. Have you tried any other BD's? Which firmware version do you have installed on the S350? Are the drops in signal both video and audio? If you watched much of the movie without problem it's unlikely that the cable is to blame although a cable swap-out would certainly eliminate that as the cause.
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Originally Posted by EWRIAH View Post

Forgive me if this post doesn't belong here, but I thought that it was worth a shot.

I just got my BDP-S350 last night (found a great deal online) and hooked it up to my Denon AVR-987 via HDMI. I seem to get intermittent drops of signal between the BDP and the AVR. I did un-plug and re-seat the HDMI cable. I watched most of Ocean's Thirteen without any problem, but the problem reappeared towards the end. I can swap out the cable for a new one, but my only other choice is to move to component video / optical audio.

Any suggestions for a relative novice?

Thanks in advance

Try updating your firmware before trying a different HDMI cable.
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Just had my S350 delivered(got in on the amazon 4 blu ray deal) I updated the firmware and popped in Incredible Hulk and all I can say is WOW. I dont have surround sound atm so just using the tv speakers but the PQ is amazing. Its funny cause when the movie first started I wasnt that impressed but it seems like the picture got better after about 15 min. Im happy I decided to go blu.
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Originally Posted by Rhoq View Post

I believe the Panasonic DMP-BD35 does.

Looks like a good match and decent price. I think I will try to talk him into the PS3 instead. Walmart is running a special of $399 with $100 gift card. So pretty close to the price of these standalones.
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

A few people have had problems playing the Ocean's 13 BD but not necessarily with the S350. Have you tried any other BD's? Which firmware version do you have installed on the S350? Are the drops in signal both video and audio? If you watched much of the movie without problem it's unlikely that the cable is to blame although a cable swap-out would certainly eliminate that as the cause.

I'm going to try another disc tonight. I did run the firmware update, via network, before trying this. The signal drops seemed to be with both audio and video. The HDMI cable was working fine with my prior Panasonic DVD player. But I will try a new one just to be safe.
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Originally Posted by Donnie Eldridge View Post

Try updating your firmware before trying a different HDMI cable.

I did update the firmware, via network, prior to playing any disc. I don't remember the version, but it did say that it was up to date after the upgrade process was completed.
post #3026 of 6719
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Originally Posted by mcmlxviii View Post

Has anyone tried using the remote control that came with the BDP-S300 to see if the "Video Format" button worked in allowing source direct input in the BDP-S350, as the S350's remote doesn't have this button? Is the lack of source direct simply a function that has been crippled in the player or is it completely unavailable?

I tried Video Format on the S350 and it did nothing. The S350 has no "source direct" option. You basically pick a resolution in the setup menus and leave it. The auto resolution setting goes to the highest resolution your TV supports.
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I need some help. I have the 350 and just hooked it up to my Sony 60" 720 P XBR lcos UNIT. I hear audio but cannot get a picture. I tried both HDMI AND THE Component hookups. Am I doing something wrong or is there a setting in the blueray that I have wrong?
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Couple of questions from a newbie looking to jump into the Blu-Ray scene:

1: Is this player a worthwhile purchase even with the potential of holiday deals and new players around the corner?

2: My TV supports HDMI, but my receiver does not, so I would want to connect the player to the receiver via optical cable for surround sound. Does the player support passing video and audio seperately?

Thanks for the help everyone!
post #3029 of 6719
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Originally Posted by Ramma2 View Post

Couple of questions from a newbie looking to jump into the Blu-Ray scene:

1: Is this player a worthwhile purchase even with the potential of holiday deals and new players around the corner?

2: My TV supports HDMI, but my receiver does not, so I would want to connect the player to the receiver via optical cable for surround sound. Does the player support passing video and audio seperately?

Thanks for the help everyone!

Question #1: One could play the waiting game forever if you're looking for a price drop. I would say, get it now and start enjoying it now!

Question #2: Yes, you can send the video signal to your TV via HDMI and the audio to your receiver via digital optical cable. This is exactly how I have my BDP-BX1 (same as BDP-S350) connected to my system.
post #3030 of 6719
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I tried Video Format on the S350 and it did nothing. The S350 has no "source direct" option. You basically pick a resolution in the setup menus and leave it. The auto resolution setting goes to the highest resolution your TV supports.

I guess I'll be getting the DMP-BD35 instead.
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