Denon DVD-A1UD/DVD-A1UDCI Blu-Ray/DVD/SACD/DVD-A/ Universal Player - Page 55

Cool- Thanks for trying out the vert stretch mode for me! I knew it would be too good to be true that you could eliminate letterbox bars without degradation on a plasma/rptv! I wish I were an engineer so I could develop a solution for this- as everyone I know prefers to see full screen vs. letterbox on their hdtvs!

Siiggghhhhhh...

Is there a relevant reason for this "post" or whatever you call it?

There's no real solution except a 2.35:1 display, but I'm surprised the A1 has no zoom modes for those people who would rather lose some picture at the edges than see black bars.

I believe you're in the minority of AVS members on this. Most of us prefer to see the film uncropped and in the original aspect ratio regardless of whether we end up with black bars on the top/bottom or sides. However when a DVD is letterboxed within a 4:3 frame which will give you black bars on all 4 sides (usually older, non-anamophic, titles), I think most of us would prefer a zoom mode that maintains the aspect ratio but eliminates the black bars on the sides.

You're obviously allowed to watch the material stretched any way that pleases you, but you might not find as big a market as you might think for the solution you're seeking.

I'm actually surprised that anyone potentially in the market for a >$4000 MSRP Bluray player would want to do such a thing with the program material as you can only do such a thing by distorting the program material. This kind of goes against the grain of buying what's supposed to be a reference product.

I believe it was a very brief reply to the post above it .

Got it now. Thanks.

I guess it is safe to say that when given the choice between watching movies in letter box or in the aspect ratio of 1.85:1 or 1.78:1, I prefer the latter! It sucks to not be utilizing all of my pixels! I literally try and watch anything and everything I can that isn't letterboxed! I know it is a shame to be this way, but I have a plasma- what can I say! I guess I need to purchase a front projector with anamorphic lens or like someone else said- wait for a 2.35:1 display to be manufactured! By the way- by "full screen", I meant 1.85:1 or 1.78:1, as these ratios fill up my 16x9 screen moreso than letterbox!

When you're in this hobby long enough, front projection becomes more of a need and mandate... and add an anamorphic lens and your plasma will be used only for the kids or watching news. Not so much for eliminating black bars, but the run of the mill 58" plasma, like in my family room, is just plain too small to convey the wonderful magnitude that is cinema no matter how accurate it is..

I have to agree. The last movie I screened started in the my theater and I switched to the den (61 inch set roughly 4 times smaller) about halfway thru. It's just not the same regardless of any other factors. Certainly you can enjoy a movie on any size display but that cinema experience does require life size images.

+1

Screens used for movies should be measured in feet, not inches!

I like that quote.

My screen is only 9 FEET wide

My 58" plasma gives me 13.1 SQ FT of viewing area. My front projection screen (168" wide) gives me 84 SQ FT of viewing area.

That's about 71/2 58" plasmas!

Front projection will end movie watching on your plasma for those of you without a projector (yet).. It did for me. And I owe it all to AVS (....my money that is)...

There is no indication that SACD over HDMI will ever be improved by firmware. This is something that should have been easily possible as soon as Denon received certification from Sony to do SACD in this player. Something tells me Denon wanted you to collect every piece of the "high end puzzle" in order to get full benefit:

http://usa.denon.com/High_End_Catalog_Lit0611.pdf

If you don't own at least a Denon Link 3 compatible AVR/prepro and you want DSD in the digital realm, you should not be considering this player at all.

how far back must your projector be positioned to get a picture that size?


I would love to switch to front-projection. Not sure I can pull this off in a small apartment living room (13.5 X 16.5)? Can I mount a projector on a rolling rack?

How far back depends on the projector itself. There MANY varying types of projectors with many varying zoom ratios, offset, shift, ect...
You could put the pj on a rolling rack, but it would be very inconvenient trying to reset it up everytime you wnat to use it. Some people use a coffee table setup, sitting the pj right on the table in front of their feet... assuming there is enough room between the table and screen to get the optimum screen size for your room.

Wether the 13.5 is the width or the lenth of your room, you should still be fine in most rooms that size.
If you check out the pics in my sig, my room is 13 x 24. If I were to only have one row of seating, the setup could easily fit into a 13 x 17 room.

You have a lot of research to do in the projector forums to get a general sense of what it takes to get started in front projection.

Good luck .

ok off track a bit but id do a wall mount shelf (up higher on the wall) for it--your room can handle it size wise. i have a friend eith a similar room size doing this with great results.

28'.

Yep! Get a projector with a short throw lens projector and you can get at big picture in your room..

There are many choices of projectors that will fit your room. Most manufactures web sites will have a throw chart with the distances and lense combinations for a particular unit. This is a great time to get started.

For all you projection guys. Do you watch tv thru your projector? For example, say I want to watch 24, Lost, Family Guy, Sportscenter or any other tv show using a projector. Is this a considered a projection faux pas? Do you guys mainly use your projector for movies? I would love to get a projector. But it would have to be used as a tv too.

Not a problem using it to watch tv.
The two biggest hangups with PJs IMO is...

1) You need light control. Puting it in the living room with a huge bay window and sun shining in is not gonna cut it. Need to have light control, where if you must have windows, you at least need black out curtains to close if watching during the day.

2) The life source of the PJ is the BULB/LAMP. It only lasts so long though. Sometimes, they can even burn out early, but most bulbs last anywhere between 2000-4000 hours or more.
If you watch a ton of tv AND movies too, you are going to go through a bulb pretty fast. Replacement bulb cost anywhere from $250-$500 depending on the projector. Since I got my PJ, i use it like I don't care about the bulb, because I really don't. It makes it unenjoyable for me if all I think about is when is my bulb gonna blow. So I just use it and don't think about it.
I got my current PJ ic Dec '07. So in 18 months I've racked up 2200 hours on it. That's moderate use. If I watched tv on it EVERYDAY, it'd probably be more like 3000 hours. Good thing I don't watch too much tv.

Well as most of you here know, I have talked about it for long enough. Well I finally did it! My order has been placed, and mine will be from the second batch coming the third week in July.

In the mean time, I am going to learn all that I can from you current owners here.

Now to run that 65 ft CAT 6 cable, and have it ready for the A1's arrival.

Just wanted to share to news.


Seth

Way to go Seth--I'm jealous...

Did you order online, or from the Candyman?

Actually neither. A friend told me about a seller out of state.

I wanted to go through Candyman, but I just found out that they are no longer in business. Sadly the owner passed away recently.

Let me start by apologizing for getting too far off-topic.


Hypothetically, lets say I get a projector and it's approximately 15' from the screen. Will I want a short throw lens for that?


Thanks SP, that's what I needed to know. I have a light controlled room. That's not an issue. So the only negative to watching tv thru a projector is the bulb life? Isn't that comparable to a rear projection tv? For example a DLP or even the (once) mighty Qualia 006? They all use a lamp. Hmmm, now you have me thinking. Damn you AVS! My wallet curses you!

I know you've been wanting this player since it was announced. It will be a perfect compliment to your already outstanding system. Congrats, my friend.

Thank you all for your inputs.

Blue "Clock Control" LED lights up now.

The problem was me. I didn't know that now we playback EVERYTHING (Blu-Ray, CD, SACD and DVD-A) thru the Denon Link and not the traditional bitstream audio for Blu-Ray thru HDMI.

Just assign source input to HDMI and make sure DIGITAL is set to Denon Link. on the AVP-A1HD setup menu, in addition to turning on HDMI Control to ON.

On the DVD-A1UD, make sure you get DenonLink 4 set to the correct HDMI output that is connected to AVP. In my case, my setup also works when the HDMI mode is set to AVP Direct.

It was 1 am last night when the Clock Control LED works....I could not compare / detect the difference in audio yet.

(Audio)

Well good to know you finally did it. I told ya, you would.
We don't play everything through dl4, that's just for the clocking signal in blue ray ,and , for dsd digital transfer.

For me HD movies.

Thats great Seth. The list of owners & potential owners is growing.