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post #3211 of 3619
Hopefully they will reload the firmware update and it will be fine.
Otherwise they might have to reload the whole firmware from the beggining and then on top of that all the updates.
Best wishes.
post #3212 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

Unfortunately region free playback is lost.
I don"t understand how DJB"S is still unaffected?

Thank you for your reply, Jomark.

It is a pity the region free ability is lost even with the latest firmware.

What's the B/E version on your unit after the update?

Thanks
post #3213 of 3619
I would b means region b bd, e likely means universal dvd..

they need to get around standardizing the bd format and have a universal bd setting for multiregion setup..


it's about time co's stop using secret menu active keycodes so you can change region codes...
post #3214 of 3619
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Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28 View Post

it's about time co's stop using secret menu active keycodes so you can change region codes...

The manufacturers don't have a choice. If they want a license to build BD players, they HAVE to include the region restrictions (except in any countries where the restrictions don't apply). We should be happy that some players even have hidden ways to make them region free.
post #3215 of 3619
That's why Steve referred to bluray as a bag of hurt.
post #3216 of 3619
Does anyone use the "GAIN" setting on the XLR Balanced Outputs on their Denon A1UD?

What does the extra +6 db get you? Is it a good thing to set this "GAIN" setting at +6 or not?

Thanks
post #3217 of 3619
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Originally Posted by 91Steve91 View Post

Thank you for your reply, Jomark.

It is a pity the region free ability is lost even with the latest firmware.

What's the B/E version on your unit after the update?

Thanks

Sorry for the delayed answer , how do we check on that?
I don" t recall the butons to be pressed on the remote.
post #3218 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by starman7 View Post

Does anyone use the "GAIN" setting on the XLR Balanced Outputs on their Denon A1UD?

What does the extra +6 db get you? Is it a good thing to set this "GAIN" setting at +6 or not?

Thanks


It stands for less sensitive amps, if full power can"t be achieved , then you set it on the +6db on the output. What it does is to double the output voltage.
post #3219 of 3619
My player can't play Rise of Planet of the Apes region A blu ray after updated new FW a week ago.It shows NO DISC on display after loading for a long time.New discs make me nervous when playing with A1UD but fine with Marantz UD9004.Whoelse has the same problem as me? My player doesn't connect with internet so when newer FW coming I don't know.Thanks.
post #3220 of 3619
Is it doing that with sacd"s also?
If it does the lens are a bit dirty and need clean up.
Try it with other discs and see what happens.
post #3221 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

It stands for less sensitive amps, if full power can"t be achieved , then you set it on the +6db on the output. What it does is to double the output voltage.

Many thanks... So... if I have a sensitive amp there is no need to use the +6 gain? Thanks again!
post #3222 of 3619
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Originally Posted by butsu View Post

My player can't play Rise of Planet of the Apes region A blu ray after updated new FW a week ago.It shows NO DISC on display after loading for a long time.New discs make me nervous when playing with A1UD but fine with Marantz UD9004.Whoelse has the same problem as me? My player doesn't connect with internet so when newer FW coming I don't know.Thanks.

Butsu,

I think the software in your player is the same as in the UD9004. If so, you can configure the internet connection manually. But first, try turning DHCP off and on again. It should grab a new lease and you'll be in business.
post #3223 of 3619
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Originally Posted by Will_Morr View Post

Butsu,

I think the software in your player is the same as in the UD9004. If so, you can configure the internet connection manually. But first, try turning DHCP off and on again. It should grab a new lease and you'll be in business.

Thanks,Will_Morr.Problem is solved now.
post #3224 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by butsu View Post

My player can't play Rise of Planet of the Apes region A blu ray after updated new FW a week ago.It shows NO DISC on display after loading for a long time.New discs make me nervous when playing with A1UD but fine with Marantz UD9004.Whoelse has the same problem as me? My player doesn't connect with internet so when newer FW coming I don't know.Thanks.

A freind owns this model and is having the same problem. When he asked me what to do, I told him to check for new firmware ( I own the Oppo93 which automatically checks/downloads new firmware over the net). His player is not connected to the net.

I checked Denon website for firmware, but was unable to find any, or instructions on getting and installing firmware.
His dealer said he knew someone who get him the new firmware for $50 fee.

Could someone please help.

Thanks,
Tom
post #3225 of 3619
problem with denon firmware you never whether it's just a firmware upgrade or a combo of firmware and hardware upgrade..

read thru the notes before deploying any firmware update..

GSR, from what i've seen without addition of a modchip, sony is pretty much universal for region a/b unless the disc itself has a region lock imposed on it , toshiba keycode allows changing of region into a, b or c. for dvd multiregion they have a e setting, or you can region lock into 1-4.. with addition of a modchip there might be a way to multiregion blue rays...

outside of oppo and most likely denon for blue ray it's going to be hidden menu changes as region select...

so if you see a b/e blue ray player more than bd region/ dvd e region setting multi region, as standard this how my region codes were set on my toshibe player then I changed them to a/e, the only thing i don't know is how many times I can change regions before regionlock becomes permanent...
post #3226 of 3619
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

A freind owns this model and is having the same problem. When he asked me what to do, I told him to check for new firmware ( I own the Oppo93 which automatically checks/downloads new firmware over the net). His player is not connected to the net.

I checked Denon website for firmware, but was unable to find any, or instructions on getting and installing firmware.
His dealer said he knew someone who get him the new firmware for $50 fee.

Could someone please help.

Assuming your friend has internet access at his house, a network cable long enough to get from the player to his router should do the trick. Connect it to the internet temporarily so the firmware update can be downloaded to the player and installed. Then remove the network cable and store it until another firmware update is available. I don't have a DVD-A1UD, but my understanding is that the firmware update process is similar to the AVP-A1HDCI - there will be a menu option somewhere in the setup menus to check for and then install the most recent firmware.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28 View Post

problem with denon firmware you never whether it's just a firmware upgrade or a combo of firmware and hardware upgrade..

read thru the notes before deploying any firmware update..

If there's a hardware upgrade involved, I'm pretty sure that would be hard to miss as you would have to get the device to a service center for the upgrade and there would most likely be some $$$ involved - the firmware upgrades are usually free. In my experience, Denon is good about posting something on their website when hardware upgrades are available.
post #3227 of 3619
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Assuming your friend has internet access at his house, a network cable long enough to get from the player to his router should do the trick. Connect it to the internet temporarily so the firmware update can be downloaded to the player and installed.

Thanks GSR,

My freind had it updated just the way you described,by his dealer, but it didn't help. It still has trouble reading blurays. He often gets a 'no disc' or 'unknown disc' message. He says if he reloads the disc it will sometimes play after several tries.
The dealer told him it was a bad transport, which might cost $500 to fix.
My freind says sacd and cd play fine. I would think that a bad transport would affect other discs also, but what do I know.

Since there are different lasers that read the different shiny discs, could it be possible that the bluray lens is dirty or somehow obscurred?
I think I'll lend him my lens cleaner before he takes it in for repairs. Might be worth a try.
Any other suggestions are welcome.

Tom
post #3228 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

Since there are different lasers that read the different shiny discs, could it be possible that the bluray lens is dirty or somehow obscurred?
I think I'll lend him my lens cleaner before he takes it in for repairs. Might be worth a try.
Any other suggestions are welcome.

Tom

That is definitely possible. Another option for cleaning is to (fairly carefully, of course) blow some compressed air in to dislodge anything that might be obscuring the lens.
post #3229 of 3619
I can't believe i got suckered into one of these, and i have a feeling that i will not regret it, not
even in the age of BDP-95, since DSD decoding and analog performance is what I seek.

First let me start off by stating that it will strictly perform internal SACD stereo/multi decoding. OK, maibe i will try some internal DTS-HD decoding too which i suspect will be superior to my DHC-9.9.

After a lot of research, and having enjoyed the Burr Brown 1796 DACs in my DHC-9.9 for a while
via an Oppo DV-980H i knew it was time for an upgrade. Research led me to the AKM4399 32 bit DACs found in many 20k players, something i will never afford.

http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/...99/ak4399.html

So it came down to this one and the Marantz UD9004, as the "poor man's" players, Esoteric and the other ubermachines completely out of my league, and most sport only 2-channel outputs for the pre-institutional hard core vinylists. Don't get me wrong, love 2 channel SACD, in fact it is much better for solos and chamber music.

Another route would have been a processor that incorporates the superior DACs, a much more expensive route, and again tough luck finding a processor with 32 bit DACs and HDMI 1.1 or above.I absolutely love my HC7000 PJ and see no reason to upgrade, same for the DHC-9.9, which sports the same PCM1796 as the DHC-80.3, so no real gain from SACD perspective.

I am very excited to try this out! Now need decent interconnects. My 400 SACD collection will be taken to new heights. Will delegate all processing to the player which i will calibrate of course. Will post my impressions soon.

Again, the good component is not the sum of its parts, having read a lot of private and pro reviews i am sure that this machine is superior to anything else.

Now to the basement for another Canare/Neutrik DYI interconnect job, plus a pair of balanced ones. Let the silver solder pour
post #3230 of 3619
You are sayimg you want to try dvd a1ud?
Or something else? I don"t follow?
post #3231 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

Thanks GSR,

My freind had it updated just the way you described,by his dealer, but it didn't help. It still has trouble reading blurays. He often gets a 'no disc' or 'unknown disc' message. He says if he reloads the disc it will sometimes play after several tries.
The dealer told him it was a bad transport, which might cost $500 to fix.
My freind says sacd and cd play fine. I would think that a bad transport would affect other discs also, but what do I know.

Since there are different lasers that read the different shiny discs, could it be possible that the bluray lens is dirty or somehow obscurred?
I think I'll lend him my lens cleaner before he takes it in for repairs. Might be worth a try.
Any other suggestions are welcome.

Tom



Don"t .
The lazer cleaners most of the time scratch the lens.And since a1ud has single lens, it might very well destroy it. What it probably needs is a cleaning,a fairly difficult procedure if one havent performed it before.
I"ve done it in my player 2 times .It"s quite difficult since the cover of the transport will not come completely off , so will have to move it a bit to the side and have little space to access the lens and clean it with a qtip .
Better take it to a service center and let them do the dirty work.
post #3232 of 3619
I just got the 3 Rush Sector's CD boxsets and all of the CD's are 96/24 resolution (or so the liner notes say and all the boxset info I can find online and on the Rush website) but I can not get the A1 to output the 96/24 signal over my digital coaxial cable. My SSP displays 44.1KHz. Is what I'm experiencing another "feature" of this $4000 player or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks
post #3233 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

You are sayimg you want to try dvd a1ud?
Or something else? I don"t follow?

I have it as of yesterday, just waiting for my 7.1 interconnects and the M1000i XLRs from ebay.

If you are not familiar with the decade-old debate of the benefits of player versus processor DSD decoding i suggest you read on www.sa-cd.net.

I basically have inferior to the A1 DACs in my Integra processor so i will let the player do the whole job, i may also try a few BDs, as apparently the A1 has MLP that may add an edge to the sound. The Reon VX is also in my HC7000 PJ, so i will just let the PJ do the processing. BD will be purely incidental, unless the A1's DTS-HD decoding is revelationary compared to my DHC-9.9.
post #3234 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod#S View Post

I just got the 3 Rush Sector's CD boxsets and all of the CD's are 96/24 resolution (or so the liner notes say and all the boxset info I can find online and on the Rush website) but I can not get the A1 to output the 96/24 signal over my digital coaxial cable. My SSP displays 44.1KHz. Is what I'm experiencing another "feature" of this $4000 player or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

I found out what was going on. There was aparantely a huge marketing F up for the boxsets and the CDs even though taken from newly remastered albums at 96/24 were down converted to 44/1/16 for the CDs.
post #3235 of 3619
You can"t have plain audio cd"s on 96 24.
Sampling freq is 44,1 and word length 16 bits.
It doesn"t get any better than this.
post #3236 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobpaule View Post

I have it as of yesterday, just waiting for my 7.1 interconnects and the M1000i XLRs from ebay.

If you are not familiar with the decade-old debate of the benefits of player versus processor DSD decoding i suggest you read on www.sa-cd.net.

I basically have inferior to the A1 DACs in my Integra processor so i will let the player do the whole job, i may also try a few BDs, as apparently the A1 has MLP that may add an edge to the sound. The Reon VX is also in my HC7000 PJ, so i will just let the PJ do the processing. BD will be purely incidental, unless the A1's DTS-HD decoding is revelationary compared to my DHC-9.9.



I wasn"t aware of the decade-old debate.
Also i wasn"t aware of marantz 9004 production being dropped.
Anyway a1ud is a excelent machine .Now if it does a better decoding process compared to your integra i don"t know.
I guess we will find out .Right?
post #3237 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

You can"t have plain audio cd"s on 96 24.
Sampling freq is 44,1 and word length 16 bits.
It doesn"t get any better than this.

Yeah for some reason the age old CD spec completely escaped me, I guess I was so excited when the boxsets were annonuced with all CDs marketed as being 96/24 it never occured to me to question if they were actually CDs and not SACDs or BD Audio discs for example which can contain the higher resolution. Each boxset does contain one of the albums in 96/24 multi-channel DVD-Audio and aparantely the record label issued a statement either before the release or shortly after saying the CDs would be 44.1/16 and that the albums would be available in 96/24 via HDTracks in the future. It's really nice to have 3 albums in DVD-Audio but I must admit being pissed as much with myself as the marketing because I had most of the albums in the 3 boxsets all ready which I had been picking up over the past couple of years so now I end up with 2 of many of the albums with no real differences between them.
post #3238 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

I wasn"t aware of the decade-old debate.
Also i wasn"t aware of marantz 9004 production being dropped.
Anyway a1ud is a excelent machine .Now if it does a better decoding process compared to your integra i don"t know.
I guess we will find out .Right?

DVD-A1UDCI in da house!

Still have my Canare/Neutrik interconns but not for long, balanced King Cobras are replacing them, and M1000i 1m are coming for the 7.1 pre-outs, i already have the M1000i balanced for the stereo pre-outs.

So, even with the humble cables, the decoding in the player is superior to the DHC-9.9 fed by the Oppo 980.

Martin Frost's clarinet tremolo is really coming to life little hidden nuances are creeping out.

La Sublime Porte, my latest acquisition regales with voluptuous lazy harem music. The little ode to a certain Sultan Osman is particularly uplifting.

Pat Barber comes out even more convincingly depressed in Modern Cool.

"Ya tvoi sluga, ya tvoi robot" , you guessed right, Kraftwerk is fabulously rich.

Big surprise, well not so big, but Gattaca BD's DTS-HD 5.1
track is so much more nuanced, i watch this movie about 5 times
a year, so i know what to look for.

At 42 lbs i need to reinforce my Tech-Kraft SF50 fiberboard POS or swing for an RSF Viking. For now i invested in $5 angle enforcers and will epoxy the whole rack. That should hold this warrantied refurb.

Scoreboard: AKM4399 > PCM1796 (but remember, the product quality does not equal the sum of the components as stated by others)

So much for my new glorified SACD player, well worth the investment.

Time to go on chill pills again, upgraditis is getting the better part of my budget.

Now time to replace my humble amps with a POA, no way, alimony can be expensive
post #3239 of 3619
Glad you liked it.
You talked about refurb unit with warrantie.Where you find those ones?
Cause i"ve never heard of something like this in eu?
post #3240 of 3619
Quote:
Originally Posted by jomark911 View Post

Glad you liked it.
You talked about refurb unit with warrantie.Where you find those ones?
Cause i"ve never heard of something like this in eu?

PM sent.

You are right, you will never hear about it because of the weak consumer protection laws in the EU.
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