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post #10861 of 11323
Hi all,

I have an AVR-789 and have my PC, PS3 and Cable box going to the HDMI in and the out going to a Sony XBR 46".

When having music playing from the PC how to I configure the dennon to display the TV picture?

Thanks!

DF
post #10862 of 11323
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Originally Posted by DocFrew View Post

Hi all,

I have an AVR-789 and have my PC, PS3 and Cable box going to the HDMI in and the out going to a Sony XBR 46".

When having music playing from the PC how to I configure the dennon to display the TV picture?

Thanks!

DF

I will get corrected on this, but I believe you will need to run the HDMI from your cable box to the TV first then the SP/DIF optical from the TV back to the AVR so you can select the pc/music source on the avr in order to see the cable picture and listen to the PC sound. Or I think you can connect analog or possibly optical digital, if you have it, from the PC to the AVR on a different input so you can select a different source for video and audio. I don't remember exactly but I think when you are doing HDMI you are fixed to the configured audio and video ins on that same source. JDS or BP can correct me on all this.
post #10863 of 11323
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocFrew View Post

Hi all,

I have an AVR-789 and have my PC, PS3 and Cable box going to the HDMI in and the out going to a Sony XBR 46".

When having music playing from the PC how to I configure the dennon to display the TV picture?

Thanks!

DF

Hi DocFrew, if you're talking about watching cable box and listening to PC then "Video Select" button will work. But but it does not work with HDMI sources. You'll need to connect with cable box with component cables. Then simply select the audio source (PC) and then change the Video Select setting to the analog video source you want to watch (Cable box).

Another work around is if the PC has digital or analog audio out. Basically connect it to the same labeled input as the Cable box HDMI input. Then change the "Input Mode" setting for the HDMI cable box to either "digital" or "analog" (depending on the connection).
post #10864 of 11323
Quote:


Hi DocFrew, if you're talking about watching cable box and listening to PC then "Video Select" button will work. But but it does not work with HDMI sources. You'll need to connect with cable box with component cables. Then simply select the audio source (PC) and then change the Video Select setting to the analog video source you want to watch (Cable box).

this will not work if the PC is HDMI as well. Video Select doesn't work with HDMI sources on either end (audio or video).

your second solution offered is the easiest option.
post #10865 of 11323
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

this will not work if the PC is HDMI as well. Video Select doesn't work with HDMI sources on either end (audio or video).

My bad, forget about needing audio connection as well.
post #10866 of 11323
Thanks for all the tips guys.

When i posted I momentarily forgot that my audio from PC to AVR is the red/white component RCA cable. It is connected to the PC using a 3.5mm adapter.

It's my video that is being converted from DVI (on PC) to HDMI and then into AVR.

It's been a while since i originally configured my set up and I am now getting serious about doing some fine tuning.

Thanks again. When I get some time I will give your suggestions a try.
post #10867 of 11323
One final question (hopefully)..!

I think JC's suggestion of using components from cable box to AVR and then using video select sounds like a good choice to me.

1. Now will the HDMI from AVR to TV carry this video signal to the TV or will I also have to run components from AVR to TV. I'm basically trying to use only one video input on the TV.

2. I also assume an optical from Cable box to AVR is necessary for sound under this configuration?

Thanks!

DF
post #10868 of 11323
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocFrew View Post

One final question (hopefully)..!

I think JC's suggestion of using components from cable box to AVR and then using video select sounds like a good choice to me.

1. Now will the HDMI from AVR to TV carry this video signal to the TV or will I also have to run components from AVR to TV. I'm basically trying to use only one video input on the TV.

2. I also assume an optical from Cable box to AVR is necessary for sound under this configuration?

Thanks!

DF

1. yes it will upconvert component to HDMI out (no need for component video out)

2. yes
post #10869 of 11323
It appears I have lost my surround back left channel. I've confirmed it's not the speaker or wire by swapping them at the receiver and retesting (using auto speaker set-up). I tried the headphone jack trick and assigning/un-assigning zone 2 with no change.

Would a master reset or anything else help?
post #10870 of 11323
^^
Possibly ... although resetting the microprocessor would be your next step regardless.
post #10871 of 11323
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Possibly ... although resetting the microprocessor would be your next step regardless.

Not familiar with that. How do I do it.....or do I need to find my manual? ;-}
post #10872 of 11323
Power OFF the AVR. While simultaneously pressing the and buttons, power ON the AVR. Let the front panel display flash about 4-5 seconds and then release the buttons.
post #10873 of 11323
Thanks!
post #10874 of 11323
just remember when doing the reset procedure to use the little "hard power" button, not the big on/standby button
post #10875 of 11323
Thanks again. Is the micro-reset the same as, what I referred to, the master reset?
post #10876 of 11323
^^
Yes, regardless of what you call it, there's only one reset on this AVR.
post #10877 of 11323
Thanks again. Sadly it didn't help. Tried the test tones as well and still no sound from that channel. So much for 7.1.
post #10878 of 11323
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Originally Posted by guest68 View Post

It appears I have lost my surround back left channel. I've confirmed it's not the speaker or wire by swapping them at the receiver and retesting (using auto speaker set-up). I tried the headphone jack trick and assigning/un-assigning zone 2 with no change.

Would a master reset or anything else help?

Exact same channel went out on my 789 about 9 months back. I confirmed all of my SACD/DVD-A Player to AVR the connections were good, confirmed the speaker wires were not shorting out, nothing helped. Since I didn't use 5.1 mode much I just kind of forgot about it, never did the Master reset. Two weeks later it just started working again and no problems since.

Hopefully you will be as fortunate.
post #10879 of 11323
Interesting......

So for all you Audyssey gurus:

Since I did the reset procedure and the channel is still inoperable, I set the 'amp assign' to 5.1 & zone 2 and ran Audyssey for the 5.1. If I assign the amps back to 7.1 in hopes of the channel correcting itself, will Audyssey continue to use the 5.1 settings or default to factory settings for 7.1?
post #10880 of 11323
Audyssey will force you to re-run if you "add" speakers to the setup. It won't let MultEQ operate if there are uncorrected channels in play.
post #10881 of 11323
That's what I thought would happen. I would also assume that when if I 'amp assign' to 7.1 and try to run Audyssey set up, it won't, if a channel is not operating.
post #10882 of 11323
^^
Correct ... that is if the AVR cannot send a test signal to the speaker.
post #10883 of 11323
I apologize in advance for my ignorance, but I am just not the most tech savvy when it comes to audio stuff.

My AVR 789 is set-up as 5.1 surround sound in the main living room. Connected to the 791 via HDMI cables are a Vizio Blue Ray Player with internet streaming, XBOX 360 and Dish Network HD Satellite Receiver. Output is to a Sony HDTV via HDMI Cable. On the patio, I have 2 speakers connected to Zone 2.

I would like to be able to use different inputs (radio, iPod, etc.) for each zone. For example, I would like to watch TV in 5.1 surround sound in the living room while the kids listen to music (radio, iPod, CD, etc.) outside in the pool. Or sometimes I would like quiet inside (no radio, TV, etc.) while the kids are in the pool wanting music.

How do I set this up with the 789? Do I need a pre-amp to listen to different inputs in both zones?

Thanks - Mike
post #10884 of 11323
post #10885 of 11323
Just got back from a week long vacation. My Denon AVR-1909 won't turn on! Standby just blinks, then receiver powers up, then turns of and standby blinks. Weird. No one used it while I was gone (that I was aware of). No power surge here that I was aware of. I unplugged everything from it and still the problem.

Hope the repair isn't a lot as I'm a semi-prosumer/audiophile and this receiver has been the best bang for the buck I've ever owned. Like it better than my Yamahas and HKs.

I need a temporary replacement while it is getting repaired (assuming it needs a repair and it won't be a costly one.) With prices so low these days, heck maybe it will be a permanent replacement!

1) I don't need super high-end audiophile circuitry. With a family now, we just play games and watch movies in our family room. I don't have some high-end theater room that I listen to Mozart in while drinking my 30-year old Cabernet.

2) Reliability/Trouble-free no software glitches is the #1 criteria

3) Low price is next criteria (economy has made me a poor man)

4) Need just 3 HDMI input (4 would be nice) (I connect Comcast Cable, PS3 and Xbox to it)

5) Only need 5.1

6) I'm use to having zone 2 to play music on my deck but frankly I've rarely needed to play one source inside and another outside. Plus zone2 has to be analog in, at least on that Denon model. So I could survive putting the deck speakers on Speaker B and not have a second zone if it saved considerable cash, but prefer zone 2 capability.

7) Thing I liked best about the Denon was the Audyssey Features (EQ and Dynamic Volume). Would really like to keep those. They were superior to the equivalent features on the Yamahas when I bought the Denon.

Any recommendations/insights on what's ahead for me on the broken Denon and a good/cheap replacement temporary or permanent is appreciated.
post #10886 of 11323
So I already had deck speakers and use Zone 2 by running analog audio from Blu-ray player (for Pandora) and from Comcast HD-DVR (for its music stations). Now I added a roof to my deck and a installed a flat screen TV out there.

I currently have my Comcast HD-DVR and Blu-ray player into two HDMI In ports and run the Monitor HDMI out to the inside TV. How can I get another Hi-Def output to the deck TV? Can I put a HDMI splitter after the Monitor HDMI out and run two lines to both TV's? Will I run into HDCP issues with this? Can I just run component cables from the Component Out on the back of the receiver to the deck TV? Does the Denon output via HDMI Monitor and Component Outs at the same time? I already have analog audio out to the deck speakers, would they be "out of sync" with the HDMI or component audio?

I realize I can buy some short run cables and try this out myself before I run the 40' to the deck TV, but was hoping someone may have some experience with this before I go buying stuff I have to return (if it doesn't work).

Thanks!!
post #10887 of 11323
^^
You could connect an HDMI splitter although the Zone 2 audio "may" be out of sync with the HDMI audio. You could also connect a component cable to the deck TV, but you'd also need to connect component from the source to the AVR as well. You may want to consider an HDMI 4x2 switch between the sources and the AVR (out 1 to AVR and output 2 to deck TV) although the audio may be downmixed to STEREO when connected to the deck TV.
post #10888 of 11323
Thanks for the advise, I wasn't thinking about a 4-2 splitter before the Denon, but that gives me the option of watching different sources on different TVs. I think I can just use the TV's speaker for the deck when watching TV out there, and use the deck in-ceiling speakers for music only, unless the audio ends up in sync, then that would be a bonus!
post #10889 of 11323
Anyone have a guess what the repair on a 1909 would be that won't turn on. (Blinking red light. Tried microprocessor reset but no luck.) Strangely it stopped working I think while it wasn't being used, unless the person stopping by to feed my cats cranked the stereo too loud while I was gone. (Cable box was frozen too - seems like maybe a power surge?) There's no smell/indication of any overheating issue. Ran great since purchase and rarely turned it up very loud. Well ventilated.

Does the service center diagnose it for free typically? I got a new 1712 for $227 at Fry's which seemed like a no brainer. Maybe I can unload the 1909 on Ebay for parts?
post #10890 of 11323
^^
So it shuts off without any source or speakers connected to it?

You're likely looking at a repair cost of at least $200. Generally a repair facility will charge their hourly fee ($75) to take a look at it and then apply that to the actual repair cost should you decide to have it repaired with them.
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