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post #11191 of 11323
My AVR 789 has a default volume of =40 db. Any idea how I might be able to change that to -20 db?

BTW: This default is the default whether the input is TV, DVD or CD (though which I play Sonos).
post #11192 of 11323
There is a setting in the menu to change the default. Look in the manual.
post #11193 of 11323
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Originally Posted by VideoVirgin View Post

My AVR 789 has a default volume of =40 db. Any idea how I might be able to change that to -20 db?

BTW: This default is the default whether the input is TV, DVD or CD (though which I play Sonos).

You are likely using a Quick Select button to power on the AVR which defaults (although can be changed) to powering on the respective device at -40db (p. 60), as the regular "Power ON" setting (p. 31) defaults to the last volume setting used when the AVR is powered off (although this can also be changed as desired).
post #11194 of 11323
What is a mint like new 1909 worth on craigslist, I'm thinking of selling mine.
post #11195 of 11323
Probably aound $150. I would list at $200 OBO.
post #11196 of 11323
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Probably aound $150. I would list at $200 OBO.


I put it on CL for 300, took 250 !! It must be worth more than than you think now-a-days, It must be that 250 today only gets you a new entry level avr with netware / hardware which is just short of junk, The 1909 is great hardware only out dated by software.. It only took 2 days to sell !!
post #11197 of 11323
Wow, nicely done! smile.gif A lot depends on the specifics of your metro area, craigslist is not a perfectly efficient market. I was just basing it off my experience based on prices I see in SoCal.
post #11198 of 11323
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Wow, nicely done! smile.gif A lot depends on the specifics of your metro area, craigslist is not a perfectly efficient market. I was just basing it off my experience based on prices I see in SoCal.
I still love my 2309CI but my Sony 2006 60 inch KDSA22000 TV is getting old like me so guess I will be upgrading to a more modern system in next year. I note that the new systems don't have phono input jacks. As far as Wifi goes I am finding Cat6a cables easier and more trouble free. Since I have the Harmony program with the Denon Audessey codes and Logi is trying to sell their remote business (or close it down) When I get a new AVR I would like to be able to find compatibility with the 2309. What do you recommend as a replacement for the 2309?
post #11199 of 11323
Hello all I have a question. On my 789 anytime I set the individual channel volumes to the desired value, when I turn the unit back on the settings are back to 0. Does anyone know how to save these settings?
post #11200 of 11323
Happy Memorial Day to all my fellow Home Theater enthusiasts.

Question: What is the best way to configure my 789 to play 5.1 (actually 4.1 since I have phantom center channel) in my Living Room and have 2 channel audio out on my back patio. I currently have the 2 patio speakers connected to the "Front B" terminals. I have the back patio speakers running through a volume control so I can turn those down but I cannot turn down/off the inside 4.1 while leaving the outside 2 on. I'm assuming I can accomplish this by using a "Zone 2" configuration for the patio speakers. The manual says to connect the "Zone 2" to the "Surround Back/Amp Assign" terminals. Do I need a external power amp for the "Zone 2" when connected this way, or does it use on-board amps?

Also, can "Front A" and "Front B" be controlled independently? i.e. volume or ON/OFF

Thanks in advance.
post #11201 of 11323
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Originally Posted by dyvurcz View Post

Hello all I have a question. On my 789 anytime I set the individual channel volumes to the desired value, when I turn the unit back on the settings are back to 0. Does anyone know how to save these settings?
Run Audyssey... wink.gif

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Originally Posted by gregavi View Post

Happy Memorial Day to all my fellow Home Theater enthusiasts.

Question: What is the best way to configure my 789 to play 5.1 (actually 4.1 since I have phantom center channel) in my Living Room and have 2 channel audio out on my back patio. I currently have the 2 patio speakers connected to the "Front B" terminals. I have the back patio speakers running through a volume control so I can turn those down but I cannot turn down/off the inside 4.1 while leaving the outside 2 on. I'm assuming I can accomplish this by using a "Zone 2" configuration for the patio speakers. The manual says to connect the "Zone 2" to the "Surround Back/Amp Assign" terminals. Do I need a external power amp for the "Zone 2" when connected this way, or does it use on-board amps?

Also, can "Front A" and "Front B" be controlled independently? i.e. volume or ON/OFF

Thanks in advance.
The patio speaks need to be connected to the rear back surround channels. The 'B' speakers only mirrors the front L/R in the main zone and cannot play music independently.
post #11202 of 11323
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Run Audyssey... wink.gif
The patio speaks need to be connected to the rear back surround channels. The 'B' speakers only mirrors the front L/R in the main zone and cannot play music independently.

Thanks. That answers half of my question. The other half is, do i need a outboard power amp for "Zone 2"?
post #11203 of 11323
No.. After connecting the speakers to the Surr Back/Amp Assign speaker posts, then just set the AMP ASSIGN to "Zone 2" noting that only sources connected with an analog cable will pass to Zone 2. When the speakers are connected to the speaker posts on the AVR, they are being powered by the AVR's internal amps. An external amp would be connected to the Zone 2 pre-outs in order to externally power Zone 2 speakers.
post #11204 of 11323
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

No.. After connecting the speakers to the Surr Back/Amp Assign speaker posts, then just set the AMP ASSIGN to "Zone 2" noting that only sources connected with an analog cable will pass to Zone 2. When the speakers are connected to the speaker posts on the AVR, they are being powered by the AVR's internal amps. An external amp would be connected to the Zone 2 pre-outs in order to externally power Zone 2 speakers.

Of course. that makes sense. I knew about the 'analog only' in Zone 2 deal. Some of the new Denon AVRs allow digital inputs. I'll just have to connect my Squeezebox with both digital and analog connectors.

Thanks JD & Splicer
post #11205 of 11323
Cannot remember ever seeing "dial norm offset" message on my 1909.
But recently this message seems to display quite often.
What could be different that I keep getting this message displayed?

For instance watching regular non HD channel through cablebox and whether in 2 channel stereo or Dolby cinema the message is coming on every few to 20-30 seconds.
Thanks.

Its really annoying cause the volume seems to be going from soft to loud, high -low.
Edited by hrin - 7/1/13 at 6:56pm
post #11206 of 11323
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Originally Posted by hrin View Post

Cannot remember ever seeing "dial norm offset" message on my 1909.
But recently this message seems to display quite often.
What could be different that I keep getting this message displayed?

For instance watching regular non HD channel through cablebox and whether in 2 channel stereo or Dolby cinema the message is coming on every few to 20-30 seconds.
Thanks.

Its really annoying cause the volume seems to be going from soft to loud, high -low.

Your headphone jack is likely fouled up with dust and dirt. Blow some caned air in there or take a headphone plug and insert and remove it a few times and it should go back to normal.
post #11207 of 11323
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Originally Posted by hrin View Post

Cannot remember ever seeing "dial norm offset" message on my 1909.
But recently this message seems to display quite often.
What could be different that I keep getting this message displayed?

For instance watching regular non HD channel through cablebox and whether in 2 channel stereo or Dolby cinema the message is coming on every few to 20-30 seconds.
Thanks.

Its really annoying cause the volume seems to be going from soft to loud, high -low.

See p. 52 in your Owner's manual ....

post #11208 of 11323
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Originally Posted by hrin View Post

Cannot remember ever seeing "dial norm offset" message on my 1909.
But recently this message seems to display quite often.
What could be different that I keep getting this message displayed?

For instance watching regular non HD channel through cablebox and whether in 2 channel stereo or Dolby cinema the message is coming on every few to 20-30 seconds.
Thanks.

Its really annoying cause the volume seems to be going from soft to loud, high -low.




Well, I played from other sources such as DVD and BluRay and did not notice the "dial norm offset" message at all. Only when playing from cable box. This seemed to occur shortly after my cable company was bought out by another. Not sure what that means if anything. But it is not the first odd experience since the take over.

I did clean up the headphone jack and refer to page 52 of the manual but still the same. Thanks for the info.
post #11209 of 11323
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the Ref Level Offset setting was introduced on the xx10 models.

mr. kludge -- yes, you can accomplish the same thing using the source level (input trim) setting as I describe in my p2tU FAQ: http://batpigworld.com/fadq.html#audyssey

this offset only affects Dynamic EQ, not Dynamic Volume (although because Dyn Vol layers "on top" of Dyn EQ it will sound different after adjustment). If you lower the input level, you will have to turn up the volume more making Dyn EQ less "aggressive" in its boosting of freq response and surround volume.

you will have to turn up the volume more making Dyn EQ less "aggressive" in its boosting of freq response and surround volume. Agree
post #11210 of 11323
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Originally Posted by hrin View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by hrin View Post

Cannot remember ever seeing "dial norm offset" message on my 1909.
But recently this message seems to display quite often.
What could be different that I keep getting this message displayed?

For instance watching regular non HD channel through cablebox and whether in 2 channel stereo or Dolby cinema the message is coming on every few to 20-30 seconds.
Thanks.

Its really annoying cause the volume seems to be going from soft to loud, high -low.




Well, I played from other sources such as DVD and BluRay and did not notice the "dial norm offset" message at all. Only when playing from cable box. This seemed to occur shortly after my cable company was bought out by another. Not sure what that means if anything. But it is not the first odd experience since the take over.

I did clean up the headphone jack and refer to page 52 of the manual but still the same. Thanks for the info.

Since it only happens with the cable box it's probably some type of signal hiccup/dropout. The dialnorm offset is flashed on the display only when the signal is initially acquired, and since its flashing all the time it sounds like the receiver is sporadically losing the signal briefly.

Try a different HDMI cable, reseating the cable tightly, and/or a different HDMI input on the receiver.
post #11211 of 11323
We had trouble with the 3311ci when Comcast did an upgrade. The overlay wouldn't work if I remember right. Had to go into the settings of the DVR and set the output to a specific resolution instead of auto. You might try that based on the Batpig said it might have something to do with the signal changing.
post #11212 of 11323
Hello all. For some reason my zone 2 is not working when i play my directv. it works on my dvd, tuner. wifi netflix etc. im using 4 speaker cable in the 7.1 section of my amp. and yes. i have my amp. assigned to zone 2....its weird that everything works except regular direct tv. it was working prior to getting a new directv genie....so i swaped back to the way i had it.....still not working.Is it possible that a portion of zone 2 can go out on my 1909? thanks all........dAzEd & cOnFuSeD
post #11213 of 11323
Zone 2 external source must be analog only so connect an analog cable from the DTV box to the AVR.
post #11214 of 11323
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Zone 2 external source must be analog only so connect an analog cable from the DTV box to the AVR.
hmmm. even though my speakers are plugged into [ surround back/amp.assign] and my amp.is assigned to zone 2 under menu 2-5. option setup. is there another setting i need to adjust for the tv.??? it works evreywhere else ....thank you Smoothie King......i just read your profile page.impressive. i hope i can get to that point of helping people back....payitforward.
post #11215 of 11323
You will need an analog cable from the DTV box to the 1909.
post #11216 of 11323
O.k. Smoothie....I connected 2 rca cables from zone 2 out on the 1909 >>>>>to the back of the Dtv auidio out......but still nothing.........frown.gif
post #11217 of 11323
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Originally Posted by DatsDat View Post

O.k. Smoothie....I connected 2 rca cables from zone 2 out on the 1909 >>>>>to the back of the Dtv auidio out......but still nothing.........frown.gif
i meant Dtv audio IN.....(my editor not uploading here) thanks smoothie
post #11218 of 11323
You would want to connect the RCA cables from the DTV analog audio OUT to one of the sets of analog inputs on the 1909. Although generally the case, ensure the DTV box can output over HDMI and analog audio simultaneously. Try disconnecting the HDMI cable as a test.
post #11219 of 11323
My AVR 1909 lately won't output the OSD or any analog input signals (e.g. my Component Video DVD player) over HDMI to the TV. The screen on the TV says "no input signal" when I'm on the DVD input, and if I'm watching an HDMI source, the TV screen will go blank when I turn on the OSD. It's as if the receiver can no longer output natively analog signals over HDMI. Any suggestions?
post #11220 of 11323
thanks smoothie, still trouble shooting this......since my 2 speakers are wired into {amp.assign/mutizone} is it safe to say i can reassign my amp. from zone 2 >>>>to 7.1 and i should hear sound from directv?
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